anyone seen the twurbo???

[chuntington101]

just wondering if anyone on here has seen this

http://www.altaminiperformance.com/products/show/2...

looks like an inresting piece of kit. all the benifit of a turbo but with the low down grunt of the supercharger.

what do you guys and girls think??

Chris.

[fergy]

Would be interesting trying to explain to the insurance company what you're trying to insure.

Sounds good in principle, does VW not have something similar in their golf 1.4 litre GT's ?

[chuntington101]

VW do the exsact same thing! but dont think they are using a Garrett GT30r turbo!

i cant realy see any downsides to it. the only problem is the stupid top mounted intercooler. does anyone know of a way to mount a proper front mounted one? or has anyone had sucsess with a decent sized chargecooler??

thanks Chris.

[Loui]

chuntington101 said:

VW do the exsact same thing! but dont think they are using a Garrett GT30r turbo!

i cant realy see any downsides to it. the only problem is the stupid top mounted intercooler. does anyone know of a way to mount a proper front mounted one? or has anyone had sucsess with a decent sized chargecooler??

thanks Chris.

The twurbo ditches the supercharger, im more interested in fireball racing turbo conversions myself

[chuntington101]

Loui said:

chuntington101 said:

VW do the exsact same thing! but dont think they are using a Garrett GT30r turbo!

i cant realy see any downsides to it. the only problem is the stupid top mounted intercooler. does anyone know of a way to mount a proper front mounted one? or has anyone had sucsess with a decent sized chargecooler??

thanks Chris.

The twurbo ditches the supercharger, im more interested in fireball racing turbo conversions myself

formthe website i looks like the Alta twurbo retains the supercharger. BBR and GTT have true turbo conversions that remove the supercharger. i have seen the fireball website but cant find any details on whats included. anyone got any links???

thanks Chris.

[Silent1]

chuntington101 said:

Loui said:

chuntington101 said:

VW do the exsact same thing! but dont think they are using a Garrett GT30r turbo!

i cant realy see any downsides to it. the only problem is the stupid top mounted intercooler. does anyone know of a way to mount a proper front mounted one? or has anyone had sucsess with a decent sized chargecooler??

thanks Chris.

The twurbo ditches the supercharger, im more interested in fireball racing turbo conversions myself

formthe website i looks like the Alta twurbo retains the supercharger. BBR and GTT have true turbo conversions that remove the supercharger. i have seen the fireball website but cant find any details on whats included. anyone got any links???

thanks Chris.

Ah GTT who's entire BHP packages are a fraud due to them never dynoing / 1/4 miling thme so they actually have no clue

[chuntington101]

Silent1 said:

chuntington101 said:

Loui said:

chuntington101 said:

VW do the exsact same thing! but dont think they are using a Garrett GT30r turbo!

i cant realy see any downsides to it. the only problem is the stupid top mounted intercooler. does anyone know of a way to mount a proper front mounted one? or has anyone had sucsess with a decent sized chargecooler??

thanks Chris.

The twurbo ditches the supercharger, im more interested in fireball racing turbo conversions myself

formthe website i looks like the Alta twurbo retains the supercharger. BBR and GTT have true turbo conversions that remove the supercharger. i have seen the fireball website but cant find any details on whats included. anyone got any links???

thanks Chris.

Ah GTT who's entire BHP packages are a fraud due to them never dynoing / 1/4 miling thme so they actually have no clue

owwww didn't know that! i have heard alot of good things about there products though.

[Silent1]

The sad thing is, he used to produce stunning Renault 5 GT Turbos but he's lost the plot with the mini, look at the gtt300t kit, since when did people fit an in cab boost controller?! also there's a bit of a subtle argument going on even with his most vehement tuning supporters about his CAI as it was fitted to a standard cooper s and he lost 7 bhp, rolands answer, drill holes in the back of the CAI!

[chuntington101]

Silent1 said:

The sad thing is, he used to produce stunning Renault 5 GT Turbos but he's lost the plot with the mini, look at the gtt300t kit, since when did people fit an in cab boost controller?! also there's a bit of a subtle argument going on even with his most vehement tuning supporters about his CAI as it was fitted to a standard cooper s and he lost 7 bhp, rolands answer, drill holes in the back of the CAI!

thanks for that! its soo easy to get pulled into the hype about a tuner. on some boards the top tuners (not allways the best) are almost like king of the forums.

on the boost controler thing though, with turbos most electronic boost controler (the best) are mounted in the cab. this means you can switch between diffrent pre set boost limits. manual boost controlers aren't that acurat and i have heard can cause big fluctuations in presure.

thanks Chris.

[s33gav]

chuntington101 said:

thanks for that! its soo easy to get pulled into the hype about a tuner. on some boards the top tuners (not allways the best) are almost like king of the forums.

on the boost controler thing though, with turbos most electronic boost controler (the best) are mounted in the cab. this means you can switch between diffrent pre set boost limits. manual boost controlers aren't that acurat and i have heard can cause big fluctuations in presure.

thanks Chris.

I've personally used GTT for my JCW and they are very good with regards tuners. Regardless of what power claims their "packages" suggest, my car is MUCH better and QUICKER after having some work done. I dont care what a RR says my is running, as it's driving the thing that counts.

[chuntington101]

s33gav said:

chuntington101 said:

thanks for that! its soo easy to get pulled into the hype about a tuner. on some boards the top tuners (not allways the best) are almost like king of the forums.

on the boost controler thing though, with turbos most electronic boost controler (the best) are mounted in the cab. this means you can switch between diffrent pre set boost limits. manual boost controlers aren't that acurat and i have heard can cause big fluctuations in presure.

thanks Chris.

I've personally used GTT for my JCW and they are very good with regards tuners. Regardless of what power claims their "packages" suggest, my car is MUCH better and QUICKER after having some work done. I dont care what a RR says my is running, as it's driving the thing that counts.

i have only heard good things about them apart from on here. do they do hteir tuning on the road then?? this would be diffrent to the way most is done (normally on a dyno).

have any of you guys got infresion on the twurbo kit or similar turbo-supercharger kits???

thanks Chris.

[s33gav]

My tuning involved installing a load of new parts and then him taking it for a spin and deciding whether it was running ok, whether it was pinking etc - which decided whether it required a remap. Mine didn't, and he generally doesn't provide remaps with his tuning packages unless they need it (according to him).

It's very different to other tuners, but I got the feeling it was a lot more personal with him which made me feel good. He's also designed some superb parts - I've got their manifold and it's awesome.

I've always been weary of tuners that remap cars to get massive gains - somethings got to give with that.

Anyway it's just my experience but they were first class and much recommended.

[Silent1]

TBH i've got respect for GTT and the way he operates, as a bloke he's a really genuine guy, what i do have an issue with is how he claims BHP gains for kit when he has no proof, meaning the end consumer ends up not being able to compare it

[fergy]

Must say I never read anything but good things about GTT... and what I've read people with the conversions are delighted with the results.

And you read soooo many other tuners that publish figures that people just don't believe that I would rather listen to what people say that have had conversions done that looking at figures.

If I get anything done to my R56 mini, it will most certainly be something from GTT.

[s33gav]

Silent1 said:

TBH i've got respect for GTT and the way he operates, as a bloke he's a really genuine guy, what i do have an issue with is how he claims BHP gains for kit when he has no proof, meaning the end consumer ends up not being able to compare it

I know what you're saying, and I was thinking the same thing before. I wanted to know what the power/torque curves would be after I had some work done - which he couldn't give me. In the end I just went for it anyway, and I gotta say I'm very pleased with the results - I mean these companies all offer similar parts as part of their tuning kits anyway, so there's not much to go wrong.

The only time I reckon it's well dodgy is when you're expecting to get an extra 50bhp from a remap...I mean that doesn't sound right to me, without any other work done.