Just collected new Cooper D

Just collected new Cooper D

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xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Mrs XXPLOD collected her new Cooper D on Friday. In pepper white with black viper stripes, chilli pack and 17" wheels. Very pleased with it.

Currently driving it fairly sedately as per the owners manual which recommended not going over 3500 rpm for the first 1000 miles. Appears to have a reasonable amount of grunt but the fuel computer is telling us it's averaging 48 mpg. I know it's early days but that is a way off the claimed 70 mpg combined figure quoted. Our 320d managed the same as that.

We're planning to have a remap done, probably by DMS (c£500). Anyone had the new Cooper D re-mapped? It should push power up to c140 bhp which will hopefully put it's performance not far behind an S but with the D economy.

IL TORO FURIOSO

452 posts

201 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Nice one...i prefer the "non-cooper s shape" of the normal coopers

Is that 70mpg for the Mini One D? or maybe when you include the stop starty option?

Enjoy the car

C

Catherine197

9,586 posts

244 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Can the new cooper's be remapped? I thought that the ecu may be like on the new generation BMW's where they can't be cracked?

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Sunday 30th December 2007
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Apparently the Cooper D can be - I've had a quote from DMS Automotive of £450+VAT if I take the car to them. Approx 20% gains in power and torque.

fergy

279 posts

224 months

Monday 31st December 2007
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Quick as a Cooper S !!.... hope not or I will have to start modding my S to go quicker wink

Does make me wonder what bhp DMS could get out of an S...mmmmm

Edited by fergy on Monday 31st December 11:58

matt21

4,290 posts

205 months

Monday 31st December 2007
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i believe the cooper d does have a quoted near 70mpg figure now it has stop start. give it time, your economy will go up as the engine beds in.

the new model R56 does not have a One D as yet. only the previous model had a one d which used a 1.4 diesel engine out of the Yaris putting out a paltry 75bhp (or 88bhp by the end).

140bhp seems plausable and I would be interested to see what your opinion of that is. imo tho its only a matter of time before BMW produce a more powerful version of the diesel. look at the BMW range. 118d is nearly 150bhp and thats the base model! you can get over 200bhp diesel in the 1-Series coupe!


Phaeton al

7 posts

196 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Good luck with it,my new cooper clubman d expired with only 140 miles on the clock.
Lovely wee motor shame about the quality.
Mini cutomer services were good however the Mini dealers in N Ireland are bad.

Al

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
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Phaeton al said:
Good luck with it,my new cooper clubman d expired with only 140 miles on the clock.
Lovely wee motor shame about the quality.
Mini cutomer services were good however the Mini dealers in N Ireland are bad.

Al
Expired? In what way?

mccarn

641 posts

198 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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My driving instructor has one. I absolutely love it. Feels so powerful and its a really nice car to drive. So much low down grunt..

Phaeton al

7 posts

196 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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It was defunct,as the saying goes a nice ornament but no longer a functioning car,poor build quality or a poor dealer pda inspection maybe, at least I got my money back after 15 days of dealer torment and starting legal proceedings supported by trading standards.
Al

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Well, one month of ownership and just over 2000 miles. Now averaging 53 mpg. Quite some way off the quoted 70.

Interestingly, the engine is borrowed from Peugeot and they quote 60 mpg combined when in the 208/308. Funny that! It seems BMW are being somewhat optimistic with their economy quotes.

MINIrocket

3,264 posts

211 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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xxplod said:
Well, one month of ownership and just over 2000 miles. Now averaging 53 mpg. Quite some way off the quoted 70.

Interestingly, the engine is borrowed from Peugeot and they quote 60 mpg combined when in the 208/308. Funny that! It seems BMW are being somewhat optimistic with their economy quotes.
Sorry to state the obvious but it's much more complicated than just reading the combined mpg figures and expecting to achieve that on every journey! Yes the engine is the same as the Peugeot however the MINI figures will be boosted by lots of technology that the Pugs don't have.... stop/start, alternators that disconnect when not needed, electric steering etc etc.

The figures quoted aren't arrived at by each manufacturer, but tested during the EC type approval process... all manufacturers cars are tested in the same way, so they'll all be "inaccurate" in exactly the same way. If you're only getting 53 against a quoted 70 in the MINI, then you'd probably only get lows 40s against the quoted 60 in the Peugeot.

If you do a long motorway run (at 70mph) then you'll get even more than 70mpg, but if you're using it in town etc then you're doing pretty good to get 53mpg!

Apologies for the rant, but it's all too easy to quote figures, but real life is much more different from the testing procedures that are used.

Edited by MINIrocket on Wednesday 30th January 21:08

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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MiniRocket - I fully appreciate how the figures are arrived at. I still think BMW are being wildly optimistic. Prior to the Cooper D we had a 320d. BMW quoted a combined economy of 49 mpg. Over 3.5 years and 84000 miles, we averaged 46/47. Fair enough.

Of course I don't expect to get 70 mpg day in/out. However the Mini is driven 80 miles every day on A roads and motorways, mostly in 6th gear with the engine ticking over at 2000rpm. BMW actually quote 80 mpg for constant 56 mph driving.

I think BMW are being wildly optimistic with these figures. I doubt 70 mpg would be achievable even on a motorway run at 60 mph for hundreds of miles. 80 mpg - not a chance.

WipeOut

7 posts

206 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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I get 62mpg on average out of mine, with which I am very happy.

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Well it seems we may be going the same way as Phaeton Al. Just drafted our letter to the BMW dealer rejecting the car under the Sale of Goods Act.

Now with them for the 3rd time as they can't find why the car simply dies under acceleration.

Watch this space!

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th March 2008
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Yep! Full refund from the Mini dealer. Car 2 months old, 3K miles. They've no idea why it suddenly looses all power on brisk acceleration.

To be fair, the dealer was excellent. No quibbles at all.

Edited by xxplod on Sunday 9th March 16:21

marlinmunro

3,053 posts

206 months

Sunday 9th March 2008
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Have always looked down my nose at the Mini D thought a slow car. How wrong could one be, bought a 04 plate one D from the auction to sell on. Like it so much going to keep it does 55 to the gallon and pulls like a train. When the new Cooper D drops in value will buy one of those. biggrin

Minui

2 posts

194 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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I have been the proud owner of my new lightening blue cooper d, with black roof for just over a month now.
I also am only getting currently 52mpg from her.
However I am finding it very noisy( have driven all sorts of diesels for the last 10 years!) I have just booked her in to my local MINI dealer as the fan is coming on when its not necessary which is causing a major rattle/vibration into the car!

I am hoping they can sort it out easily!

Anyone else had problems with theirs?

xxplod

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2,269 posts

245 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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There's some info on the Whatcar site about the new Mini and the mysterious loss of power issue that we suffered.

I think BMW/Mini are doing their best to keep a range of problems with the new Mini quiet.

Minui

2 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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Thanks will have look at their website. Its booked in for thursday so hopefully they will sort it for me!