Cooper D Test Drive

Cooper D Test Drive

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Catherine197

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

244 months

Saturday 27th September 2008
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Had our first ever test drive today in a Cooper D.

Have to say it was a really impressive car, the one we drove only had about 600 miles on it, so there was still some loosening up to be done in the engine department.

What really surprised us was that the ex demo's are very much like Porsche in that you are paying list. If this is the case I don't know how they sell them. A second surprise was that a factory order will be delivered in only 4/5 weeks. A factory order from Ford at the moment appears to be 8-12 weeks.

Were thinking of:

Pepper White
Black Roof
17" Wheels
Chilli Pack
Darkened Glass
Bluetooth
Multifunction Wheel
Heated Mirrors
Cream Line Interior
Piano Black Trim
Chrome Line Interior



Supermega

77 posts

190 months

Saturday 27th September 2008
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Cool, the MINI is a riot on the twistys! Btw: did you try the petrol Cooper at all? Best of luck with your mini adventure!

Catherine197

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

244 months

Saturday 27th September 2008
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No we didn't, we are just really thinking of the diesel.

Supermega

77 posts

190 months

Saturday 27th September 2008
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Ah good stuff, the D is great on fuel I had one for a few weeks. This my Coop.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/2222648451_a11...

Since then its been treated to some light weight Team Dynamics wheels ;-)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2893588234_b06...



Edited by Supermega on Saturday 27th September 23:30

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

202 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Catherine197 said:
Had our first ever test drive today in a Cooper D.

Have to say it was a really impressive car, the one we drove only had about 600 miles on it, so there was still some loosening up to be done in the engine department.

What really surprised us was that the ex demo's are very much like Porsche in that you are paying list. If this is the case I don't know how they sell them. A second surprise was that a factory order will be delivered in only 4/5 weeks. A factory order from Ford at the moment appears to be 8-12 weeks.

Were thinking of:

Pepper White
Black Roof
17" Wheels
Chilli Pack
Darkened Glass
Bluetooth
Multifunction Wheel
Heated Mirrors
Cream Line Interior
Piano Black Trim
Chrome Line Interior
Nice spec. You'll be wanting to add aircon to that list though, even if just to ensure that you'll be able to sell it on one day.

okgo

38,111 posts

199 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Chilli pack has aircon in it. Amongst other st.

the cream line interior are tricky to sell on, also I would probably put a sunroof on there, its great and will make it an easy seller.

And all our demo's go roughly 1500-2000 off list..So don't know where you went ect.

And there will be plenty of cars like that already built and in storage so you coudl get a brand new one in a week I should think, I found a similar white one for a guy the other day.

Edited by okgo on Monday 29th September 23:23

artov60

413 posts

191 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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buffly said:
The diesel models are shockingly economical!

I`m a BMW tech, and regularly see 50-60 MPG average....
Considering they quote over 70mpg average I tink the word shocking is appropriate. I cannot get above 54mpg however I drive the thing. Fortunately I like to drive the car and it has super low road tax- otherwise I would go for the petrol.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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Saw low 60s mpg on mine over a very gentle 100 mile rune once - painful restraint required though. Low 50s the norm.

Much prefer the drive of the Cooper D over the petrol though, the extra torque makes a lot of difference.

zax

1,009 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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I just picked up a Clubman D for a 24 hour test drive. Got in the car, adjusted the seat and thought yes I find these cars to be a perfect fit for me (and I'm 2m tall), driving position is superb. But then I turned on the ignition...

I hope the engine grows on me, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to try the Cooper S first frown Looks like I'll end up testing the petrol (non Cooper S) version next week also. Would be interested to hear how folks feel petrol & diesel models compare. I'm used to a Honda so anything under 5000rpm is a shock to the system biggrin

vixta

616 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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I love my cooper diesel. biggrin v.economical. It will be a sad day when I finally decide to change it for something else. I've driven a petrol Cooper S in the past, but the diesel is much better. I'd be tempted to get the pepper or chilli pack put on the car as well. Don't forget to get the TLC pack too.

smile

wrighty78

6,313 posts

215 months

Wednesday 1st October 2008
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zax said:
Would be interested to hear how folks feel petrol & diesel models compare. I'm used to a Honda so anything under 5000rpm is a shock to the system biggrin
I test drove both the petrol (non-S) and diesel cars in both Clubman and hatchback forms and take delivery of my petrol hatch next week.

I wanted an economical, fun car for around London, mostly short trips, with the occasional longer journey out of town. I found the diesel engine quite "clattery" and, as with most single-turbo diesel engines IMO, the power delivery was too lumpy for my tastes.

Personal preference, of course, but I prefer the power delivery of the petrol and, for the bulk of the journeys I'll be doing, the fuel economy will be little worse than the diesel (given how long it takes a diesel to warm up to max efficiency compared to a petrol engine).

But it was a tough decision. Each to their own I guess. Try a few and see which ticks your boxes.

zax

1,009 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Gave the car back. Didn't want to frown A few random thoughts...

Initially found the engine very "clattery". Checking on other forums (mini2 etc.) others have reported the same but cars seem to vary
Quite liked the power delivery, seemed fairly linear for a turbo engine
Not a fast car as such, but not having to slow down for corners helps maintain momentum biggrin
Really liked the ride and handling, surprised since this was on standard 15" wheels with runflats. Firm but not too firm, not much body roll, absorbed bumps nicely.
Standard headlights are poor
Standard sound system is also poor
Fuel economy was very good even when pushing on (as far as can be told from computers, which I don't completely trust)
Wipers make a noticeable "swoooosh" wind noise when activated at speed
Driving position is the best I have tried. A perfect fit. Got back into the Civic and felt like I was sitting on top of the thing...

For me at least it was a great compromise between driving fun, economy and practicality. I realised this last night when (at 11:30pm) I decided to go for another drive despite the fact it was pissing with rain and strong winds were blowing leaves, branches & twigs all over.

Pity they're so expensive. Need to figure out if I can I really afford an extra €7k over other cars with similar spec for the "fun factor"? If I only drove on highways and in town I probably wouldn't bother, but I'm lucky enough to spend 80% of my driving time on curvy A roads, twisty B roads and gravel smile

fergy

279 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Couple of things you mentioned can be improved upon...

- Lights, epc Xenon's and they go from bad to very good, well worth the ££
- Standard stereo is pants, but can be nicely upgraded by www.newminisctuff.co.uk that is route that I went down and difference was remarkable.

...as to cost, get a 2nd hand one, you will loose loads in first year on new one, and all the value of any extras that you add over the standard packs (chilli etc). Also heard of dealers offering discounts now...£1k off without much haggling so deals are out there.

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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You might want to stay with the standard issue Chili Pack 16"s. The bigger wheels just tend to make for a duller drive and a more agitated ride in town.

zax

1,009 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Yep, I found the xenons on the Cooper S very good when I tried it, and essential for me since I drive a lot on country roads. 15" wheels will do for winter and 16" for summer.

It's still quite a rare car here in Finland, only 5 in the country available for sale 2nd hand and 3 of those are ex demo cars. So no bargains to be had yet...

One other plus point, the more restrained interior of the Cooper D was much more to my liking than the over-chromed interior of the Cooper S smile

sad61t

1,100 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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Cooper D's very popular due to the low CO2 (£35 instead of £120). Had a go in a ONE, Cooper, & Cooper D but went for the Cooper on 15" (non runflats - not aware of rf option on 15"). This is partly because my mileage is so low it would take a ridiculously long time to claw back the difference in ticket price. I'm getting a reported 45mpg from the petrol 1.6, but everywhere (even the trunk roads) around here is a 40mph limit so the cruise is set and I'm comatose. Still, gotta be like safer ain'it.

Economics & politics of speed aside, I found the diesel more of a cruiser, while the petrol was more fun when revved out so went for that.

Viper_Larry

4,319 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd October 2008
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900T-R said:
You might want to stay with the standard issue Chili Pack 16"s. The bigger wheels just tend to make for a duller drive and a more agitated ride in town.
yes We bought a Cooper D for the driving school 18 months back, same spec as you want straight out the showroom. Made nthem change the 17" wheels for 16" (more learner/curb friendly!) and I think the car looks better on these. My Mrs gets 47mpg, but then learners aren't the most economical drivers!


ian_c_uk

1,247 posts

204 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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zax said:
standard 15" wheels with runflats.
The 15"s are non-runflats.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Nice 07 plate here

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/MINI...

Pepper white
Black roof
Chilli Pack
TLC pack
17" alloys
Privacy glass
Half leather

£14250

Whats the new price on your chosen spec?