Any deals on new/pre-reg Cooper S

[okgo]

speedd said:

okgo said:

Rakey said:

okgo said:

Rakey said:

killinginblack said:

smiles1 said:

Ok here's the best deal they've offered so far.

p/x price on O6 plate mini one cab with 41k and in very good condition £8,000

Price on new (pre-spec'd for dealer) but zero miles and not registered Cooper S:

Silver
Climate control
Chilli Pack
Chrome interior
Sports steering wheel
Leather/cloth sports seats
5 years or 50,000 miles TLC pack
17 inch wheels
black wing mirrors

On the road price £18,020

Looks like a £1500 saving over list price to me, not to be sniffed at.

However, with the current offers mini are doing on the option packages (£1k ish off the chilli) and the tlc pack (£500 ish) supposedly being one of the things dealer's are prepared to negotiate on/chuck in for free i'd be inclined to have a word with a few more dealers and see what they can do.

Seem's like all your getting off list is what any other dealer could do.

Wise words, especially about TLC, I've never paid for TLC

Wise words? Utter crap. The TLC pack is £185 quid. And you won't ever pay it because its in the on the road costs, which you never see and have to pay.

Someone that goes to many dealers is going to get no attention from me, and I will ring the next place and tell them the customers antics and they will do the same.

Ok, so he might have got the price wrong, but TLC is not an on the road cost, its not hidden, and I've always had it thrown in for free as I have as you have said built up a relationship with my dealer as you recommended that we do, it just so happens that they are not my local dealer, and they know that when it comes time for me to buy another MINI that they know I will shop around for deals and always get them to quote to and give them the last chance to quote or beat my best deal. But they also know that I can't be arsed with too much haggling, so why not just give me the best price to start with? Instead of trying to kill the deal with arrogance that they can sell all their allocation, as they also know that I'm repeat customer having brought 5 MINI's and having 3 currently outside my house.

If you are one of those dealers that decides on how much attention or the level of service to give a customer on how he behaves or acts or dresses, then you are really not going to get my custom with that arrogant thinking that you are able to get sales from other customers!

TLC is automatically added by our car building program..

I am one of those people that decides if someone is going to be an idiot about how they are shopping around, then I shan't bother. I don't judge people before I have spoken with them. As usually my customers are well off folk that wear normal clothes!

Are you kidding me with your last comment!!
"As usually my customers are well off folk that wear normal clothes!"

What is Normal clothes?...

The car industry is a mess... even a real Chavs can see that

There will always be gripes about the sales person knowing either too much or too little, but we all do our homework (or should) as we're parting with s little hard earned cash...

What I have found is that "The customer service in this country is something to be desired for"

<------ goes to change attire and book an appointment to see a local MINI dealer for a low down on the new Conv

Spec so far -
MINI Cooper S Convertible 1.6

in Midnight Black

with the following options:


Additional Decor Rings
White Indicator Lenses
Park Distance Control
Radio BOOST CD
CD Preparation
Alarm system (Thatcham 1)
Car Jack
Pass Airbag Deactivation
Dynamic Stability Control
Sport Button
Sports Seats
Roof&Mirror Caps in Black
White Bonnet Stripes
Midnight Black
Colour Line Cream White
Interior Trim Piano Black
Multifunction for S/Wheel
Front Centre Arm Rest
Interior World Tuscan Beige
Aerodynamic Bodykit
Seat heating, front
Visibility pack
Auto-Dim Interior Mirror
Rain Sensor & Lights On

CHILI Pack
17" Black Star Bullet Alloys
Automatic Air Conditioning
Bi-Xenon Headlights
Comfort Access
Full Bluetooth with USB
Lea Gravity Tuscan Beige
Heated Mirrors/Washer Jets
Interior Light Pack
On-Board Computer
Front Foglights
Pass. Seat Height Adj.
Floor Mats
Sport Leather Steer Wheel
Storage Compartment Pack

Also looking at the MITO

Normal the wrong word to use, granted. But I think you know what I mean. A lot of my customers are cash buyers (good for them) and a lot of the time they would come across exactly the same as your average customer that had to buy the car on finance! Even with their p/x in mind.

Obviously there are exceptions, where the wealth is clear to see. But I do not judge any customer by their cover!

Nice spec!

[speedd]

Cheers okgo.

But we should never judge a book by the cover

I love shopping in casual attire Then it's "Show me the money"

[Loui]

speedd said:

Cheers okgo.

But we should never judge a book by the cover

I love shopping in casual attire Then it's "Show me the money"

Is that you? When you getting out of that overgrown beetle into another mini??????

Edited by Loui on Friday 13th March 23:25

[jonlwright]

Well, I have just read this thread - and seen that some customers are 'tossers' - obviously in the mind of the salesman, I am sure those 'tossers' have got a great group of friends who would argue otherwise.

That normal clothes are required to get some kind of service at the dealership! (Whatever normal clothes are)

That customers should not 'shop around' - I mean what other industry has the benefit of having customers exclusive?? I think that is called a monopoly and is illegal in Europe! - but of course having said that, if tables are turned and a customer walks in with an offer from another group said salesman is happy to 'try and beat it'.

Well - I am in the market for a factory works car, but I think I had better be cautious who I deal with having read this!

[okgo]

jonlwright said:

Well, I have just read this thread - and seen that some customers are 'tossers' - obviously in the mind of the salesman, I am sure those 'tossers' have got a great group of friends who would argue otherwise.

That normal clothes are required to get some kind of service at the dealership! (Whatever normal clothes are)

That customers should not 'shop around' - I mean what other industry has the benefit of having customers exclusive?? I think that is called a monopoly and is illegal in Europe! - but of course having said that, if tables are turned and a customer walks in with an offer from another group said salesman is happy to 'try and beat it'.

Well - I am in the market for a factory works car, but I think I had better be cautious who I deal with having read this!

Read what I wrote.

Some customers are tossers, fact, some sales man are tossers, fact. In fact one of my customer said that another salesman on this forum was a tosser.

What I said was, being obnoxious in telling people you are shopping about, and that you are going to go with the best price regardless of the service or anything else is not going to get you a decent service, surely you can see that..

[jonlwright]

okgo said:

jonlwright said:

Well, I have just read this thread - and seen that some customers are 'tossers' - obviously in the mind of the salesman, I am sure those 'tossers' have got a great group of friends who would argue otherwise.

That normal clothes are required to get some kind of service at the dealership! (Whatever normal clothes are)

That customers should not 'shop around' - I mean what other industry has the benefit of having customers exclusive?? I think that is called a monopoly and is illegal in Europe! - but of course having said that, if tables are turned and a customer walks in with an offer from another group said salesman is happy to 'try and beat it'.

Well - I am in the market for a factory works car, but I think I had better be cautious who I deal with having read this!

Read what I wrote.

Some customers are tossers, fact, some sales man are tossers, fact. In fact one of my customer said that another salesman on this forum was a tosser.

What I said was, being obnoxious in telling people you are shopping about, and that you are going to go with the best price regardless of the service or anything else is not going to get you a decent service, surely you can see that..

I did read it and you said "Someone that goes to many dealers is going to get no attention from me, and I will ring the next place and tell them the customers antics and they will do the same." - no mention of being obnoxious.

Also you spouted bks about the TLC being part of the 'on the road costs' which is not true. It is £185 on top of the OTR price listed in your pricelists.

The trouble is with too many sales people in dealerships (and I am not saying this includes you as I don't know you well enough) is that due to massive churn rate in their employment everything is short termist. If you think it is hard work to close a deal within the next few weeks, you don't bother. However, long termers who do build up relationships will often sell a dozen cars over a few years to one customer. I was looking at a mini at blue bell mini, a lovely lady was amazingly pleasant, but couldn't do the deal at the price I wanted. I then decided to buy a used car from elsewhere as it was perfect spec and less money. She called me 3 days later to say that they would do the deal after all.... when I told her I had bought another one she got a real attitude! I have subsequently bought 2 minis and 3 BMWs from a dealer 30 miles further away, as the service I got there was second to none.

I guess that I will also be branded a tosser by you now too

[okgo]

TLC is part of the OTR for us, can't speak for others, but for us it IS part of the OTR, obviously you can not have it, but you would be an idiot to do so.

I understand what you are saying, and I am the nicest guy you will ever meet in a dealership, I will tell you straight, and don't bullst people. But you must understand, that the pressure from our managers and such is to close the deal now at any costs, its them who infact take up the short-termist view. And we have to do what they ask.

Edited by okgo on Thursday 5th March 20:31

[lardtastic]

Mini dealers and dealerships are really not very good at getting a good deal for themselves.
I live in oxford and tried to buy my first Mini cooper from North Oxford Mini and offered them 13500 for
a car marked up at 14000 as I considered it to be overpriced. They didn't go for it and I ended up buying a better specced car [£1000 more] for 136500 and it had 5000 less miles
from Thames Ditton Cooper.
Mini dealers wouldn't know a fare price if Nelson Mandella came in to their dealer ship and made a sensible offer.

[okgo]

lardtastic said:

Mini dealers and dealerships are really not very good at getting a good deal for themselves.
I live in oxford and tried to buy my first Mini cooper from North Oxford Mini and offered them 13500 for
a car marked up at 14000 as I considered it to be overpriced. They didn't go for it and I ended up buying a better specced car [£1000 more] for 136500 and it had 5000 less miles
from Thames Ditton Cooper.
Mini dealers wouldn't know a fare price if Nelson Mandella came in to their dealer ship and made a sensible offer.

Well they probably sold it to another customer anyway, this is what I think many miss, we don't need to piss every car out the door, they all sell eventually

Thames Ditton hmmmmm

[Rakey]

okgo said:

Well they probably sold it to another customer anyway, this is what I think many miss, we don't need to piss every car out the door, they all sell eventually

Perfect example of the arrogant attitude that some dealers have, oh we'll sell it anyway.

I'm sure if trade was that good and that easy to sell MINI's then they wouldn't have just dropped the shifts at the plant, dropped 850 agency workers from the lines.

Times are hard in the motor world, and its that kind of attitude that will come round and fking bite you, yes even MINI where the customer is now getting more choosy with more options of what they can buy in todays market and where from

[Rakey]

jonlwright said:

Well, I have just read this thread - and seen that some customers are 'tossers' - obviously in the mind of the salesman, I am sure those 'tossers' have got a great group of friends who would argue otherwise.

That normal clothes are required to get some kind of service at the dealership! (Whatever normal clothes are)

That customers should not 'shop around' - I mean what other industry has the benefit of having customers exclusive?? I think that is called a monopoly and is illegal in Europe! - but of course having said that, if tables are turned and a customer walks in with an offer from another group said salesman is happy to 'try and beat it'.

Well - I am in the market for a factory works car, but I think I had better be cautious who I deal with having read this!

Great summary

Don't get me wrong, I love to get the hornets nest buzzing, but not all sales guys in MINI and other brands are the same, its just the majority of them :lol:

I know some very good sales guys, they might not be local but I always make a point of travelling to see them for my next MINI. Lee in Chiswick, Alison or Dave in Blackpool, or Loui in Staffs (user on here). All know their onions and don't give you no st, they will look at any other deals you have been presented with and give you the best deal every time

[okgo]

Rakey said:

okgo said:

Well they probably sold it to another customer anyway, this is what I think many miss, we don't need to piss every car out the door, they all sell eventually

Perfect example of the arrogant attitude that some dealers have, oh we'll sell it anyway.

I'm sure if trade was that good and that easy to sell MINI's then they wouldn't have just dropped the shifts at the plant, dropped 850 agency workers from the lines.

Times are hard in the motor world, and its that kind of attitude that will come round and fking bite you, yes even MINI where the customer is now getting more choosy with more options of what they can buy in todays market and where from

Rakey you may well own a mini but you don't have a clue how the used mini business is.

New cars you are right, and we won't let a deal walk, but used cars is a different game all together, and for my sake and the dealerships sake there is no point selling a car for peanuts when we could drop the price slightly and get another customer on the car. Or one of the other dealers will sell it for us and we will make a profit that way.

I am not arrogant in the slightest, I don't really even like the cars that much, and am no concerned about them axing staff at the factory, they have done it nearly everywhere.

Don't think its a case of you Vs us, I am not trying to be like that, but you must see the bigger picture with this, and the salesman unfortunately is a pawn in the game, and often is acting as their manager has told them to do so.

Edited by okgo on Friday 6th March 12:55

Edited by okgo on Friday 6th March 12:56

[jonlwright]

Rakey said:

jonlwright said:

Well, I have just read this thread - and seen that some customers are 'tossers' - obviously in the mind of the salesman, I am sure those 'tossers' have got a great group of friends who would argue otherwise.

That normal clothes are required to get some kind of service at the dealership! (Whatever normal clothes are)

That customers should not 'shop around' - I mean what other industry has the benefit of having customers exclusive?? I think that is called a monopoly and is illegal in Europe! - but of course having said that, if tables are turned and a customer walks in with an offer from another group said salesman is happy to 'try and beat it'.

Well - I am in the market for a factory works car, but I think I had better be cautious who I deal with having read this!

Great summary

Don't get me wrong, I love to get the hornets nest buzzing, but not all sales guys in MINI and other brands are the same, its just the majority of them :lol:

I know some very good sales guys, they might not be local but I always make a point of travelling to see them for my next MINI. Lee in Chiswick, Alison or Dave in Blackpool, or Loui in Staffs (user on here). All know their onions and don't give you no st, they will look at any other deals you have been presented with and give you the best deal every time

Thanks for that Rakey, I live in the north west, so Staffs is good and I have seen something in Blackpool that appeals too - so excellent recommendation. Cheers.

I have specced a Works car on the configurator - and just working out whether to go ahead and order new or hand around and see if something similar comes up used, but looking at used prices on factory works cars right now, I may as well go new.

ETA: Can anyone tell me if the Chilli pack offer applied to the works car?

Edited by jonlwright on Friday 6th March 14:01

[okgo]

Yep they are running the offer on works cars too. Saves you £985

[jonlwright]

okgo said:

Yep they are running the offer on works cars too. Saves you £985

I also heard a chap managed to get 4% off his too from the dealer on a new car - is that realistic. I know I could walk into any VW/Audi/BMW dealer and get more than 4% without batting an eyelid - but wasn't so sure on mini.

My spec car comes out on the configurator at 26,500 - so I guess the £985 is off that plus whatever dealer margin is on offer.

[okgo]

You should be able to get upto 8/9% in total if you drive a very hard bargain..

Be quick though, the dealers are all taking the cars off the system so the choise of cars that are built and in storage is getting less each day.

Good luck.

I would strongly recommend you look at an ex-demo example, that car will be worth 20k as soon as you drive it away.

[sleep envy]

okgo said:

I don't really even like the cars that much

do you get one as a company car in this job too?

[okgo]

sleep envy said:

okgo said:

I don't really even like the cars that much

do you get one as a company car in this job too?

Yes

Although this one is not covered in crap, and look like a mini spaceship

Edited by okgo on Friday 6th March 16:30

[sleep envy]

what other sales jobs can you get one as a CC?

[okgo]

sleep envy said:

what other sales jobs can you get one as a CC?

CC? I don't follow..