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A three-time grand-slam champion - ending an ~80 year old wait for a British slam champion. 2 x Olympic single golds plus a historic Davis Cup win. And all of that in an era of Federer/Nadal/Djokovic.
What a career, what a sportsman. I’d rate him above Farrah, Wiggins, Hoy, Hamilton, McIlroy etc and think he’s the best British sportsman of this generation.
What a career, what a sportsman. I’d rate him above Farrah, Wiggins, Hoy, Hamilton, McIlroy etc and think he’s the best British sportsman of this generation.
His leadership of Team GB at the 2016 Summer Olympics in Brazil and his Davis Cup success have shown what an inspirational sportsman he is.
Perhaps not surprising given his work ethic and reputation for leaving absolutely nothing out on the court. His team leader speech in Brazil to his teammates was apparently inspirational, culminating in a four hour slug fest with Del Potro that ended with them in each other's arms.
A tough act for anyone to follow.
Perhaps not surprising given his work ethic and reputation for leaving absolutely nothing out on the court. His team leader speech in Brazil to his teammates was apparently inspirational, culminating in a four hour slug fest with Del Potro that ended with them in each other's arms.
A tough act for anyone to follow.
It always looked to me like he was pushing himself too hard. Watch Federer and it was effortless play, with Murray it seemed he was always punishing himself. Retired, hopefully he can encourage enough into the sport; whatever you think of him I'd hate to go back to the dark days of Henman/Bates etc.
Schmed said:
It always looked to me like he was pushing himself too hard. Watch Federer and it was effortless play, with Murray it seemed he was always punishing himself. Retired, hopefully he can encourage enough into the sport; whatever you think of him I'd hate to go back to the dark days of Henman/Bates etc.
You may remember as do I how relatively late Murray was developing physically - wonder if the breakdown is connected in some way?Sad to see Murray retire, especially being forced into it. 3 Grand Slams and 2 Oly Golds in an era with probably the 3 best players of all time is an outstanding achievement.
I know a lot of people thought him grumpy but he was himself, a very hard worker, dry wit. I hate the word "inspiration" when talking about people but I think he is one to many people.
I know a lot of people thought him grumpy but he was himself, a very hard worker, dry wit. I hate the word "inspiration" when talking about people but I think he is one to many people.
Scabutz said:
Sad to see Murray retire, especially being forced into it. 3 Grand Slams and 2 Oly Golds in an era with probably the 3 best players of all time is an outstanding achievement.
I know a lot of people thought him grumpy but he was himself, a very hard worker, dry wit. I hate the word "inspiration" when talking about people but I think he is one to many people.
My thoughts entirelyI know a lot of people thought him grumpy but he was himself, a very hard worker, dry wit. I hate the word "inspiration" when talking about people but I think he is one to many people.
I watched Murray from the beginning and believe he just lacked the mental edge In the first half of his career, which cost him untold GS titles...he had the game.
After 2016 I really thought he’d get a few more GS titles under his belt and I so wanted him to win the Aussie and French (Aussie in particular) then there was nothing left to prove. At the level he was playing and the with the drop in form of the other members of the big four he would have swept up that year.
Now it feels like unfinished business and a very cruel end. One of the hardest working guys on the tour which I have total respect for. Robbed of more titles at his peak...just when he had his best chance.
He is a legend and anyone who says otherwise knows nothing about being in the sport 24/7.
I’m just absolutely gutted for him.
After 2016 I really thought he’d get a few more GS titles under his belt and I so wanted him to win the Aussie and French (Aussie in particular) then there was nothing left to prove. At the level he was playing and the with the drop in form of the other members of the big four he would have swept up that year.
Now it feels like unfinished business and a very cruel end. One of the hardest working guys on the tour which I have total respect for. Robbed of more titles at his peak...just when he had his best chance.
He is a legend and anyone who says otherwise knows nothing about being in the sport 24/7.
I’m just absolutely gutted for him.
anonymous said:
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Pretty big claimAs far as I am aware the hip problem reached the level it stopped him playing in late 2016. Since when there has been eight gram slams.
Three of these were won by Federer enjoying a late career resurgence and for two of those he barely dropped a set in winning them.
Three were won by Nadal, two of which were on clay.
Two won by a Djokovic playing extremely well and enjoying his own resurgence.
Realistically, without the hip problem, Murray would have won a maximum of two.
Talking of retirements there is a lot of talk about this being Federer's final year.
Starting to seem likely that there is one record he will not take, which is Jimmy Connors' record of 109 tour singles titles.
He needs another 11 titles to surpass that record and realistically he is going to fall some way short.
What a record of Connors!, it may never be broken.
Starting to seem likely that there is one record he will not take, which is Jimmy Connors' record of 109 tour singles titles.
He needs another 11 titles to surpass that record and realistically he is going to fall some way short.
What a record of Connors!, it may never be broken.
JagLover said:
Talking of retirements there is a lot of talk about this being Federer's final year.
Starting to seem likely that there is one record he will not take, which is Jimmy Connors' record of 109 tour singles titles.
He needs another 11 titles to surpass that record and realistically he is going to fall some way short.
What a record of Connors!, it may never be broken.
I had no idea. That's astonishing.Starting to seem likely that there is one record he will not take, which is Jimmy Connors' record of 109 tour singles titles.
He needs another 11 titles to surpass that record and realistically he is going to fall some way short.
What a record of Connors!, it may never be broken.
So a grown man whose hobby became a mere sport publically blubs like a baby & runs to mummy 'cos he can't play any more. What happened to the stiff upper lip, the ability & strength to keep private such feelings & not be attention-seeking & melodramatic? As for his pain & injuries they are self-inflicted so not worthy of sympathy & I bet he didn't have to wait months for surgical treatment.
Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
WJNB said:
So a grown man whose hobby became a mere sport publically blubs like a baby & runs to mummy 'cos he can't play any more. What happened to the stiff upper lip, the ability & strength to keep private such feelings & not be attention-seeking & melodramatic? As for his pain & injuries they are self-inflicted so not worthy of sympathy & I bet he didn't have to wait months for surgical treatment.
Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
There's always one isn't there! Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
The surgeon who operated on Murray's hip doesn't think he'll make it to Wimbledon.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/13/andy...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/13/andy...
MiniMan64 said:
WJNB said:
So a grown man whose hobby became a mere sport publically blubs like a baby & runs to mummy 'cos he can't play any more. What happened to the stiff upper lip, the ability & strength to keep private such feelings & not be attention-seeking & melodramatic? As for his pain & injuries they are self-inflicted so not worthy of sympathy & I bet he didn't have to wait months for surgical treatment.
Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
There's always one isn't there! Sure he's the best at what he does but it hardly rates hero worship. It's not as though he has devoted his life for the benefit of others, or created or invented something of consequence.
He needs to man-up, realise that everything doesn't revolve about him accept his responsibility as a father & husband, as well as take the advice of Billie Jean King that better things may await him. In these matters I wish him well.
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