The Tennis Thread

The Tennis Thread

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coppernorks

1,919 posts

47 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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SydneyBridge said:
Murray is going to the Olympics, so lets see how well he does there
Best of 3 sets for men I think, short format might suit him, he's done it before

df76

3,640 posts

279 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Bright Halo said:
The thing I really like about Emma Raducanu is that she plays with a smile. It sort of lifts you when she plays.
Totally agree. Love her attitude to the game, the way she plays and how she interviews. Someone clearly enjoying every minute is so refreshing. Nike etc will be throwing cash at her and hope she makes the most of it and can enjoy the next few days.

JNW1

7,803 posts

195 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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SydneyBridge said:
Murray is going to the Olympics, so lets see how well he does there
Yes, as I said earlier he's very short of match practice and hence it's perhaps a bit too early to judge where his ultimate level might be. However, he was a long way off against Shapovalov yesterday so if extra matches don't bring a significant improvement he's got a decision to make (which from the press interviews he's been giving is something he himself realises only too well).


bad company

18,668 posts

267 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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I hadn’t seen Sue Barker this tournament until today when she was there discussing a match with Tracy Austin. She seems to have eaten a lot of pies and must have asked the cameraman to only close up on Austin.

Nothing to do with the tennis, just an observation.

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

52 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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bad company said:
I hadn’t seen Sue Barker this tournament until today when she was there discussing a match with Tracy Austin. She seems to have eaten a lot of pies and must have asked the cameraman to only close up on Austin.

Nothing to do with the tennis, just an observation.
I’ve also increased my rotundness. I keep blaming it on lockdown. But the point is swiftly approaching where I’m going to have admit to pure gluttony.

cherryowen

11,720 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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After all these years on PH, I keep forgetting there is i) a Sports section and ii) a Tennis thread boxedin

Anyway.

I thought, for a 18 y.o. qualifier, Emma played an exceptionally professional and measured game today. Some of her passing shots were top drawer, and she seems to have the quality, ability, and determination to achieve great things. I like the girl.

Norrie? Too many unforced errors for me, and even without those I think he'd have still struggled.


abzmike

8,417 posts

107 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Looks like you were adjacent to his toil!
He will be massively missed when he is finally gone. Evans and Norrie can fill the void, but probably only partly. Cam today played great, I think it’s a little harsh to slate him for making a few errors against Federer - the pressure he was under was huge, and he did well.

Enut

762 posts

74 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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cherryowen said:
After all these years on PH, I keep forgetting there is i) a Sports section and ii) a Tennis thread boxedin

Anyway.

I thought, for a 18 y.o. qualifier, Emma played an exceptionally professional and measured game today. Some of her passing shots were top drawer, and she seems to have the quality, ability, and determination to achieve great things. I like the girl.

Norrie? Too many unforced errors for me, and even without those I think he'd have still struggled.

I don't think she qualified. I think she was given a wild card, originally to qualifying but then to the main draw after she did well at Nottingham. She played exceptionally well today, you could see that even she was surprised by some of the passing shots she made. She's a breath of fresh air and I hope she continues to do well, stay injury free, and enjoy it.

Agreed Norrie seemed nervous and made too many unforced errors.

My thoughts on Murray? He's a step slower than he was (understandably) and I don't think he'll ever get that back. Without being 100% he won't be able to compete at the very top and I doubt if he wants to continue his career ranked in the 50-150 range. I'd love to see him playing more top level doubles, which is easier on the body, but I doubt if he will.

AlexRS2782

8,053 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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coppernorks said:
With the Williams brother's dominance ebbing and the subsequent demise of grunting, screeching and fist pumping
perhaps a return to a more genteel ladies game, the glow of perspiration on pretty faces, the pitter-patter of dainty feet,
the flutter of floral crinolines and a maybe a glimpse of ankle, in a world where all the players look like Jenny Agutter from The Railway Children.

{ he's gone gaga this time, Nurse, his medication.}
Not sure that's called for tbh. Regardless of what anyone thinks about them as players (good or bad) that sort of comment is just utterly moronic, and definitely not the supposed "joke" you probably think it is.

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Maximus_Meridius101 said:
rjfp1962 said:
What a brilliant match the sensational 18 year old Emma Raducanu played today against Sorana Cirstea. No "chucking the toys out of the pram" when a point didn't go her way either..! She played freely, with great composure and what a backhand stroke she has.., and forehand isn't too shabby either. I think the match would have been closer if Sorana had made more of her 1st serves, but Emma was the stronger and better player today... Go Girl smile
She’ll get knocked over as soon as she meets decent opposition. Nothing to see here, cannon fodder at best. In my opinion.
Did you watch the match?

rjfp1962

7,768 posts

74 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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eps said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
rjfp1962 said:
What a brilliant match the sensational 18 year old Emma Raducanu played today against Sorana Cirstea. No "chucking the toys out of the pram" when a point didn't go her way either..! She played freely, with great composure and what a backhand stroke she has.., and forehand isn't too shabby either. I think the match would have been closer if Sorana had made more of her 1st serves, but Emma was the stronger and better player today... Go Girl smile
She’ll get knocked over as soon as she meets decent opposition. Nothing to see here, cannon fodder at best. In my opinion.
Did you watch the match?
I certainly did.., hence the opinions given in my post.....

df76

3,640 posts

279 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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rjfp1962 said:
eps said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
rjfp1962 said:
What a brilliant match the sensational 18 year old Emma Raducanu played today against Sorana Cirstea. No "chucking the toys out of the pram" when a point didn't go her way either..! She played freely, with great composure and what a backhand stroke she has.., and forehand isn't too shabby either. I think the match would have been closer if Sorana had made more of her 1st serves, but Emma was the stronger and better player today... Go Girl smile
She’ll get knocked over as soon as she meets decent opposition. Nothing to see here, cannon fodder at best. In my opinion.
Did you watch the match?
I certainly did.., hence the opinions given in my post.....
You don't get to a fourth round of a grand slam by being "cannon fodder".. some decent pros never manage to get to that stage in a grand slam throughout their whole career. Raducuna is 18yrs old with zero WTA Tour experience, so nothing less than an amazing start to her pro career. Her run at Wimbledon is a remarkable sporting story and even if she did get well beaten in the next round, then the achievement over the last week has been huge and should be celebrated.

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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rjfp1962 said:
eps said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
rjfp1962 said:
What a brilliant match the sensational 18 year old Emma Raducanu played today against Sorana Cirstea. No "chucking the toys out of the pram" when a point didn't go her way either..! She played freely, with great composure and what a backhand stroke she has.., and forehand isn't too shabby either. I think the match would have been closer if Sorana had made more of her 1st serves, but Emma was the stronger and better player today... Go Girl smile
She’ll get knocked over as soon as she meets decent opposition. Nothing to see here, cannon fodder at best. In my opinion.
Did you watch the match?
I certainly did.., hence the opinions given in my post.....
I was questioning Meridius' comments more than yours, apologies for any confusion.

Thin White Duke

2,339 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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I hope that Raducanu manages at least the quarter finals and then goes on to actually do something. With Andy fading we need another Brit to throw our support behind.


Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Tennis is very interesting at the moment, especially the mens.

The ‘big 3’ are becoming vulnerable which makes it very unpredictable for the next 2-3 years. I doubt we’ll ever see the consistency of the aforementioned big 3 again, so will be interesting to see who ends up world number one in say 2023.

You’d have said Stefanos after RG, but I’m not sure he has the mental strength after a big loss. Danil/Rublev will be top 5, but again have a few breakdowns when things aren’t going their way.

I think Alex Zverev is the most consistent and complete player on tour at the moment (bar Djokovic and over all three surfaces), closely followed by Matteo Berrettini.

Lots of talented young players coming through in FAA,
Musetti, Sinner, Alcaraz etc but they need a few years on tour yet.

Very interesting time to be a tennis fan smile

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Thin White Duke said:
I hope that Raducanu manages at least the quarter finals and then goes on to actually do something. With Andy fading we need another Brit to throw our support behind.

Yep, well she is 'close' the Andy Murray party as his wife's father is Raducanu's Head Coach.

Of course it's still early in her career - but some of the shots that were hit were phenomenal. Thankfully they've kept her on Court 1, to try and dampen things down a little, but the Daily Fail seem to now have Emma on her radar...

Maybe that run of 8 games in a row really helped in that match. I think there was a minor wobble in the 3rd or 4th game in the 1st set and then something similar in the 2nd set, but overall against her opponent she just kept on producing great shots and positive play. Cirstea did seem to struggle with her 1st serve which helped swing the balance in Emma's favour, but you can only play whoever is in front of you!!

She feels like the real deal to me - outstanding backhand, good forehand. Good shots on the run - there were so many times in the match that I wasn't expecting to see the ball returned let alone as a winner!


JagLover

42,464 posts

236 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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eps said:
She feels like the real deal to me - outstanding backhand, good forehand. Good shots on the run - there were so many times in the match that I wasn't expecting to see the ball returned let alone as a winner!
What will likely determine long term grand slam success though is temperament.

Being fearless is easier when there is no burden of expectation.

Blackpuddin

16,591 posts

206 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Berrettini is second favourite at 10/1 to win the tournament (Djoko is 5/9) and looks like good value at that.

Blackpuddin

16,591 posts

206 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Fucsovics looks a bit handy, also looks as fit as a butcher's dog.

Baron Greenback

7,001 posts

151 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Surprised to see Barty having trouble