The Tennis Thread

The Tennis Thread

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Bonefish Blues

26,886 posts

224 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Just listening. Remarkable man, other-worldly. Our friend in Serbia will be pleased...

honda_exige

6,038 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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RichB said:
No one watch that epic 5 setter? confused Excellent match...
Was incredible! Second longest men's final ever I heard?

CooperS

4,508 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Longest speeches ever - let’s listen to the players!

waynecyclist

8,871 posts

115 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Epic final, from 2 sets down to win incredible.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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A well deserved win by one of the greats, making history.






Bright Halo

2,978 posts

236 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Amazing from Rafa!
Superhuman.

That woman went on a bit

mikebradford

2,525 posts

146 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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The irony if Novak doesn't win another slam.
He'd possibly have won this if he had of been allowed to play, and I imagine he would be gutted to not have the accolade of most slams.

Will be interesting if he gets vaccinated to enter other tournaments, assuming they require it

NRS

22,219 posts

202 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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mikebradford said:
The irony if Novak doesn't win another slam.
He'd possibly have won this if he had of been allowed to play, and I imagine he would be gutted to not have the accolade of most slams.

Will be interesting if he gets vaccinated to enter other tournaments, assuming they require it
It could be interesting even if Novak can play in the French (I think he's not allowed with current rules) - if Rafa can keep fitness and a good level he could be 2 slam wins ahead of Novak suddenly, after all the chat was about when would Djokovic pull ahead.

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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mikebradford said:
The irony if Novak doesn't win another slam.
He'd possibly have won this if he had of been allowed to play, and I imagine he would be gutted to not have the accolade of most slams.

Will be interesting if he gets vaccinated to enter other tournaments, assuming they require it
Nadal will probably win the French and I seriously doubt they’ll let Novak in on principal alone. The Americans might play the same card but I’d say that’s less likely. He’ll probably be fine here for Wimbledon but it’ll be interesting to what response he gets from the crowd

RichB

51,659 posts

285 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Bright Halo said:
Amazing from Rafa! Superhuman.
That woman went on a bit
Indeed, I laughed when Nadal asked Medvedev if he also wanted a chair to sit on during the speeches, droning on and on and on... I often wonder if these people ever think that having spent 5 ½ hours playing tennis the players, i.e. the main reason they are there, might like to get on with the proceedings. But obviously not... rolleyes

On that subject, watching the African Nations Cup game, and they're saying how tired some of the players look having 'had to play' two 90 min games of football in the preceding few days. rofl Bless...

RichB

51,659 posts

285 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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MiniMan64 said:
Nadal will probably win the French and I seriously doubt they’ll let Novak in on principal alone. The Americans might play the same card but I’d say that’s less likely. He’ll probably be fine here for Wimbledon but it’ll be interesting to what response he gets from the crowd
I rather hope he's cooked his goose. It's one thing being free to make a chose but another (on the face of it) lying and (apparently) using fraudulent documents to evade Australian border controls.

Blackpuddin

16,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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On a somewhat lower level I could do with a bit of advice from anyone on here with some equipment knowledge. I'm booked in for a four-day tennis event in April and am a bit worried about the prospect as I was getting very bad tennis elbow the last time I played on a regular basis, which was about two years ago. I plan to buy a new racket and have been doing a bit of research on what I need, which seems to be a heavy racquet, RA flexibility below 63, with low string tension. Can anyone suggest a good racket answering that description? The shopping suggestions online seem to refer to obsolete gear. I won't be able to test anything out as there are no specialist shops anywhere near me in Powys.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
PS Could also do with a suggestion on how to get an accurate measurement of my grip as I don't seem to have that line across my hand that all the guides talk about. Never done a stroke of work in my life etc.

nickfrog

21,232 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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Blackpuddin said:
On a somewhat lower level I could do with a bit of advice from anyone on here with some equipment knowledge. I'm booked in for a four-day tennis event in April and am a bit worried about the prospect as I was getting very bad tennis elbow the last time I played on a regular basis, which was about two years ago. I plan to buy a new racket and have been doing a bit of research on what I need, which seems to be a heavy racquet, RA flexibility below 63, with low string tension. Can anyone suggest a good racket answering that description? The shopping suggestions online seem to refer to obsolete gear. I won't be able to test anything out as there are no specialist shops anywhere near me in Powys.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
PS Could also do with a suggestion on how to get an accurate measurement of my grip as I don't seem to have that line across my hand that all the guides talk about. Never done a stroke of work in my life etc.
Tricky question - I would go for a minimum of 100 sq in and 300g unstrung. RA is important too but a head light (ish) too.

But the crucial aspect is what string - the best to avoid TE is natural gut and/or in a thinner gauge like 17 or 18 (unless you break strings easily).

Tension wise go as low as you dare in the racket's range, normally 45 to 50. But providing you're happy to lose some control.

I am a big fan of Yonex and particularly as their inherent dampening works well for me so perhaps something like a V Core 300 strung at 50lbs using nat gut?

Grip size : use the index finger method. Go to a good shop and they should tell you what the best size is for you, remember you can go up with an overgrip but not down obviously.

If you happen to be a 4 then this is a bargain

https://www.prodirecttennis.com/products/Yonex-Vco...

Edit : is there stringing facility at the camp ? If not you may need 2 rackets in case (at least you can try 2 gauges at 2 different tensions to mitigate the risk).



Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 1st February 17:56

Blackpuddin

16,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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nickfrog said:
Blackpuddin said:
On a somewhat lower level I could do with a bit of advice from anyone on here with some equipment knowledge. I'm booked in for a four-day tennis event in April and am a bit worried about the prospect as I was getting very bad tennis elbow the last time I played on a regular basis, which was about two years ago. I plan to buy a new racket and have been doing a bit of research on what I need, which seems to be a heavy racquet, RA flexibility below 63, with low string tension. Can anyone suggest a good racket answering that description? The shopping suggestions online seem to refer to obsolete gear. I won't be able to test anything out as there are no specialist shops anywhere near me in Powys.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
PS Could also do with a suggestion on how to get an accurate measurement of my grip as I don't seem to have that line across my hand that all the guides talk about. Never done a stroke of work in my life etc.
Tricky question - I would go for a minimum of 100 sq in and 300g unstrung. RA is important too but a head light (ish) too.

But the crucial aspect is what string - the best to avoid TE is natural gut and/or in a thinner gauge like 17 or 18 (unless you break strings easily).

Tension wise go as low as you dare in the racket's range, normally 45 to 50. But providing you're happy to lose some control.

I am a big fan of Yonex and particularly as their inherent dampening works well for me so perhaps something like a V Core 300 strung at 50lbs using nat gut?

Grip size : use the index finger method. Go to a good shop and they should tell you what the best size is for you, remember you can go up with an overgrip but not down obviously.

If you happen to be a 4 then this is a bargain

https://www.prodirecttennis.com/products/Yonex-Vco...

Edit : is there stringing facility at the camp ? If not you may need 2 rackets in case (at least you can try 2 gauges at 2 different tensions to mitigate the risk).

Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 1st February 17:56
Thanks Nick. I was wondering about the Yonex, I gather it's a heavy beast. I've used Volkl and Head up to now but with not much science applied to the selection process. Not sure about stringing where we're going, the Lew Hoad and Danish clubs in Mijas. Will check it out.
There are no shops anywhere near me so I will have to measure myself. I'll look up the index finger method as the ring finger one doesn't seem to work on my hand as I've no idea which palm line I'm supposed to be measuring from.

nickfrog

21,232 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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300g is still quite average for weight. How strong / beefy are you? That's what I play and I am 6ft/85kgs.

Yes the palm line thing is unworkable for me too. Do you have an old racket you can use as a benchmark for the finger method?

Blackpuddin

16,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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nickfrog said:
300g is still quite average for weight. How strong / beefy are you? That's what I play and I am 6ft/85kgs.

Yes the palm line thing is unworkable for me too. Do you have an old racket you can use as a benchmark for the finger method?
We're the same size as it happens but my technique is quite poor, I'm good at slice but not topspin, want to try and change that though because I suspect that's at least part of the root cause of my TE. All my rackets are old and have been regripped so often I've got no idea of their grip sizes! Think they might be three but wondering if I should go for four. The index finger thing (I've just realised what you meant by that) always seems totally random to me.

nickfrog

21,232 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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Blackpuddin said:
We're the same size as it happens but my technique is quite poor, I'm good at slice but not topspin, want to try and change that though because I suspect that's at least part of the root cause of my TE. All my rackets are old and have been regripped so often I've got no idea of their grip sizes! Think they might be three but wondering if I should go for four. The index finger thing (I've just realised what you meant by that) always seems totally random to me.
The margins are very small indeed. I have both 3 and 4 grips and frankly I can play either. It should say on the butt cap what the size is usually as L1, L2, L3 etc. Or G1, G2, G3 etc...

Most people our height will be 3 or 4.

If you only have old raquets you'll be surprised how a modern one has improved in terms of dampening qualities built in the graphite.

A good cure for TE is to use your body rotation for power rather than your arm. This also helps topspin but you might have to change how to grip the racket for that (use at least an Eastern grip on your forehand if you don't already do).

Turn you shoulder more than usual by keeping your passive hand on the throat of the racquet during the back swing.

Google "tennis unit turn". Plenty of YouTube guides.


Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 1st February 18:45

McGee_22

6,732 posts

180 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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I'm an enthusiastic occasional Tennis player but last summer suffered tennis elbow so ended giving up my right handed single-hand forehand and backhand and teaching myself how to play left handed single forehand and two-handed backhand - the only thing I couldn't master was serving, but by the end of the summer when the tennis elbow was receding I could play with single hand forehands on either side.

I have just however read the above interesting posts about tennis grip size and it's effect on tennis elbow so I decided to use do the measuring of my right hand from the palm to the tip of the ring finger. I've checked it a few times and it is 5 and 7/8ths, probably close to 6".

I must admit to being a little baboon shaped as I am 6'1" but have a 6'7" wingspan and as you can read, quite big hands too.

Do they make rackets with grips that size or is the best option to buy a size 6 handled racket and then use a padded grip, such as a hockey stick wrap?

nickfrog

21,232 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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McGee_22 said:
Do they make rackets with grips that size or is the best option to buy a size 6 handled racket and then use a padded grip, such as a hockey stick wrap?
Most brands stop at grip 5. You could put as many overgrips as you like BUT if you put more than 1 or anything thicker then you end up "rounding" the grip by losing the bevels. This will generate a rotating grip in your hand on off-centre hits unless you grip the racquet hard.. which will be a source of tension and promote... tennis elbow (amongst other issues). You can't win laugh

Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 1st February 19:17

Blackpuddin

16,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st February 2022
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McGee_22 said:
giving up my right handed single-hand forehand and backhand and teaching myself how to play left handed single forehand
Wow, I can't even imagine doing that.