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Agreed on the bias. Tan was playing against Williams, the crowd and what appears to be the entire BBC production crew.
I have the impression that all of the pre-prepared ‘buzzword’ sentences used as filler between points and games were designed to fawn over Williams. Christ, even the closing remarks of the coverage were about her.
A great match - well done Harmony Tan.
I have the impression that all of the pre-prepared ‘buzzword’ sentences used as filler between points and games were designed to fawn over Williams. Christ, even the closing remarks of the coverage were about her.
A great match - well done Harmony Tan.
dibbers006 said:
Navratilova commentary was outrageous.
Utterly disgustingly bias.
Really? I’m no serena fan, despise the bbc political agenda and hate all wokeists, but they seemed just to respect Serena’s incredible tenure. Kudos to Tan she played superbly but it was a hell of a fight.Utterly disgustingly bias.
Williams was playing a ‘pusher’. Not used to it. Pace of ball was frankly embarrassing, and did nothing for the woman's game.
Williams appears to be about 2 stone over weight. She is shot and actually sad to see. Jake LeMotta springs to mind.
Plays to the crowd, desperate for sympathy. Screams unnecessarily and plays the victim. Always has.
Tan ran her around but will get mullered, no depth at all on groundies, all landing service line and Williams couldn’t put them away as she was late in the ball. Footwork shocking.
Williams appears to be about 2 stone over weight. She is shot and actually sad to see. Jake LeMotta springs to mind.
Plays to the crowd, desperate for sympathy. Screams unnecessarily and plays the victim. Always has.
Tan ran her around but will get mullered, no depth at all on groundies, all landing service line and Williams couldn’t put them away as she was late in the ball. Footwork shocking.
I’m new to paying any attention to tennis but have the time to watch this year and I’m finding it enjoyable.
In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
Driveeasy said:
Thanks, I’d understand that if the commentator didn’t have the information as quickly as they did. Taking a look just now, the system is making in time judgements in Australia and the US so must be a decision made by Wimbledon.
Maybe. The reviews take while though, so maybe a higher accurate render is used, or it's just for the graphics to be generated. jsf said:
Driveeasy said:
Thanks, I’d understand that if the commentator didn’t have the information as quickly as they did. Taking a look just now, the system is making in time judgements in Australia and the US so must be a decision made by Wimbledon.
Maybe. The reviews take while though, so maybe a higher accurate render is used, or it's just for the graphics to be generated. McGee_22 said:
Serena has an amazing record through statistics but has bought with it a disgusting lack of grace when losing. Her GS loss on match point by default and her disgraceful words when losing to Osaka are how I remember her.
Great tennis player - not a nice person.
+1 completely mardy when losing.Great tennis player - not a nice person.
Love it when an unknown brings down one of the big beasts at Wimbledon. None bigger than SW, especially this year by the looks of her.
Harmony did a great job, hung in there mentally and got her in the end. Wonderful match to watch. But she is not a great player (yet), even though she beat one last night. SW was out of shape, mentally fragile and rusty as hell. She got what she deserved - out first round at the hands of a Wimbledon debutante.
Hopefully SW will retire now, she is not going to equal Margaret Court's record playing like that. Great if she could take Andy Murray with her so we can actually see a few younger players moving up.
Harmony did a great job, hung in there mentally and got her in the end. Wonderful match to watch. But she is not a great player (yet), even though she beat one last night. SW was out of shape, mentally fragile and rusty as hell. She got what she deserved - out first round at the hands of a Wimbledon debutante.
Hopefully SW will retire now, she is not going to equal Margaret Court's record playing like that. Great if she could take Andy Murray with her so we can actually see a few younger players moving up.
Waste of a WC giving it to Serena. Unfit and unprepared. If she was serious she should have played some tournaments leading up to Wimbledon.
She has been too heavy and too old for a few years, even before her injury. She should retire. Or train really hard, dedicate herself only to tennis and make a proper come back.
She has been too heavy and too old for a few years, even before her injury. She should retire. Or train really hard, dedicate herself only to tennis and make a proper come back.
Skeptisk said:
Waste of a WC giving it to Serena. Unfit and unprepared. If she was serious she should have played some tournaments leading up to Wimbledon.
She has been too heavy and too old for a few years, even before her injury. She should retire. Or train really hard, dedicate herself only to tennis and make a proper come back.
But she is a big name, multiple winner, and bound to draw attention to the tournament. I agree she didn't really take it seriously having not played any matches prior and looked very unfit. She has been too heavy and too old for a few years, even before her injury. She should retire. Or train really hard, dedicate herself only to tennis and make a proper come back.
I doubt they will make the same mistake next year in giving her a WC.
Driveeasy said:
I’m new to paying any attention to tennis but have the time to watch this year and I’m finding it enjoyable.
In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
Like all of the electronic review systems a lot of people dont like them because it takes away from the purity of the old game. If you just relied on Hawkeye you can do away with the line judges and umpires etc.In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
So giving them a set number of challenges they can make allows the players to use it when it matters most or when they are sure a call is wrong, while still largely playing in the traditional way with the line judges
Scabutz said:
Driveeasy said:
I’m new to paying any attention to tennis but have the time to watch this year and I’m finding it enjoyable.
In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
Like all of the electronic review systems a lot of people dont like them because it takes away from the purity of the old game. If you just relied on Hawkeye you can do away with the line judges and umpires etc.In the match last night I saw one ball given as out and this was not challenged by the player with play moving on, quickly one of the commentators said that Hawk Eye had indicated that the ball was in.
Anyone know why the point is not awarded? I know they have line judges who give the shout but a number of challenges are successful and I’m wondering why with a system so accurate why the point is not given to the player if they don’t challenge the decision with the system showing the ball in after being shouted as out.
So giving them a set number of challenges they can make allows the players to use it when it matters most or when they are sure a call is wrong, while still largely playing in the traditional way with the line judges
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