The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Pesty said:
Never seen a maltby one not even for sale. Was looking because of the local connection.
I used to have a lovely '43 dated de-act No.4 that was a Maltby.

Sold it 6 months ago to help fund the live stuff.

The one at Bisley is the 2nd Maltby that I know of currently up for sale. Devizes Gunsmiths currently has a mint one for sale as well.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Im happy with my long branch.
I've got one more rifle on order and when that comes that's it now for a few years.

Would have preferred a maltby one but as I've rescued this one and it's very accurate it's all I need.


Unless I see a Jungle Carbine around for not a lot smile

Edited by Pesty on Monday 29th May 00:54

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Pesty said:
Unless I see a Jungle Carbine around for not a lot smile
I saw 3 for sale at Bisley on Saturday.

Getting mine 12 months ago, has prompted another club member to recently buy one, as well as a probationer that has now got one on his wish list laugh

Only additional rifle I'd like would be a straight-pull M1 Carbine (but I can't see that ever happening tbh)


creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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^ What do you know about the straight pull M1 carbines? Always liked the look of them.

Chiappa do a .22LR copy of the M1. Looks really, really nice. Almost bought one a while back. The problem with them is when you look close it only has plastic sights and online reviews say the reliability could be better. But they only cost a bit over £300 new, so if you have a spare .22 slot......

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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creampuff said:
^ What do you know about the straight pull M1 carbines? Always liked the look of them.
Ian at ITL Shooting gets them made, he was only doing a handful per year, but I've very recently heard from one of his customers that there won't be any more made.

Prior to the Bisley show, he may have had only 2 left?


mat from preston

186 posts

175 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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creampuff said:
^ What do you know about the straight pull M1 carbines? Always liked the look of them.

Chiappa do a .22LR copy of the M1. Looks really, really nice. Almost bought one a while back. The problem with them is when you look close it only has plastic sights and online reviews say the reliability could be better. But they only cost a bit over £300 new, so if you have a spare .22 slot......
Are there many Erma .22lr M1 carbines in the UK? There are a few of them here in France and they are quite cheap, I have often been tempted to get one but never got around to it.

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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mat from preston said:
creampuff said:
^ What do you know about the straight pull M1 carbines? Always liked the look of them.

Chiappa do a .22LR copy of the M1. Looks really, really nice. Almost bought one a while back. The problem with them is when you look close it only has plastic sights and online reviews say the reliability could be better. But they only cost a bit over £300 new, so if you have a spare .22 slot......
Are there many Erma .22lr M1 carbines in the UK? There are a few of them here in France and they are quite cheap, I have often been tempted to get one but never got around to it.
ITL sell them, Ian has quite a few on his website. He sells spares and bits n bobs for them as well.

I did consider one, but bought the GSG Stg.44 instead.

Hoppum

134 posts

99 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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creampuff said:
I got the MP5 A4, which has the short barrel and the fixed stock.


I'd get the dealer to hold a spare magazine for you as they may also become scarce.
Can you recommend anywhere to get spare mags? They seem to be scarce already, had no luck finding anywhere with them still in stock on google,

creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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^ Portsmouth Gun Center had some a few weeks ago.

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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creampuff said:
^ Portsmouth Gun Center had some a few weeks ago.
Yes, they are worth a try.

I cleaned them out of GSG Stg.44 25 rd mags at the Bisley show a week ago laugh


creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Well back to my search for a 357 lever action: I've been sent to work in a remote office this week, so I did what anybody would do if they were working out of a remote office - sneak out of the office early and go to the local gun shop wink

They had a Rossi stainless 357. All the reviews seem to say they are quite accurate. They are light, which I like. But the finish on them is a bit ordinary. Obviously built to a low price point. Machining marks. Hard edges around the loading port. Think it may be even more noticeable on the stainless version.

OTOH the blued steel version is now available under £500.

So it could be that or the Chiappa for £700. I think the Uberti is over budget at £1100.

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Well the prices of the 3 of them mimic the relative quality of the 3 makes.

The Chiappa sits in the middle ground between the Rossi and the Uberti.

The Chiappa and Rossi are of course more directly comparable being based on the same action, whereas the Uberti is based on the earlier '73 action.


CG Firearms have what looks like a nice second hand .357 Winchester 94AE for sale for £575....?

http://www.cgfirearms.co.uk/Detailed.aspx?A1=GUID~...


creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Here's a legal question:

Do you need to keep firearms separate from all ammunition, or separate only for ammunition for that firearm? For example, can you store a 22 rifle in the same compartment as 357 ammunition?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Probably a question best addressed to your FEO.

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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creampuff said:
Here's a legal question:

Do you need to keep firearms separate from all ammunition, or separate only for ammunition for that firearm? For example, can you store a 22 rifle in the same compartment as 357 ammunition?
As said above, it depends on your FEO.

Generally, its seen as preferable to have a separate lockable facility for ammo (storing removed bolts from rifles and/or mags etc in here is a good practice as well) whether its one of the inside separate top boxes available in many cabinets, or as a totally separate ammo cabinet.

It also depends on what you have/are applying for in term of ammo allowance. Whatever its stored in needs to be big enough for all ammo allowance, so if going for a large ammo allowance, one of the built in lockable top boxes might not be big enough.

I went for a rifle cab, plus a separate ammo/pistol box bolted on top. Always better to have too much space than too little.

MKnight702

3,110 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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aeropilot said:
Always better to have too much space than too little.
What is this "too much space" of which you speak? Surely, this is just space that hasn't been filled until the next visit to the shop?

aeropilot

34,659 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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MKnight702 said:
aeropilot said:
Always better to have too much space than too little.
What is this "too much space" of which you speak? Surely, this is just space that hasn't been filled until the next visit to the shop?
True...... hehe

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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I was told to buy the biggest cabinet I could afford.

I scoffed at this, but did as I was told.

I now need a second cabinet....

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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The trouble with gun cabinets is that they're the opposite of Doctor Who's tardis.

I've currently got 4 of them and still hardly any space left.

Hoppum

134 posts

99 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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creampuff said:
^ Portsmouth Gun Center had some a few weeks ago.
Sold out now sadly, although they advised me to try riflemags.co.uk who luckily still appear to have plenty in stock.