The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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phib

4,464 posts

259 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Has anyone bought a nice side by side recently ? Any advice ?

Thinking Beretta 486 but have also been offered a really nice 471.

Any views welcome

Phib

urquattroGus

1,849 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Eley Zenith 30G 6 shot - expensive, but clean kills and great at range for a sensible load.

Also Express Supreme Game, but I find they dirty the barrels a lot, more of a nuisance to clean.

or Eley VIP Game also.

To be honest, it all seems to be down to personal taste.

RC cartridges are also popular around here.

AstonZagato

12,705 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Black Gold 32G 5 for high pheasant.

urquattroGus

1,849 posts

190 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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In general it seems that people feel the need for heavy loads and larger shot, but in my view unnecessarily in a lot of cases.

Unless you are shooting really high birds, you should be able to kill most things with a 28G 6 shot in a 12 Bore.

Certainly that's what some of the best shots I have seen do.

The same seems to go for heavy choke etc.

I have personally seen people cannon birds in half thanks to misuse of such heavy cartridges and chokes at close range.

If you go and stand in a valley in Wales, fair enough, but otherwise it seems like overkill and in fact is actually worse than a lighter load and less choke at close range.

Most of all, as they always say it's where you put the lead that counts!


Ziplobb

1,362 posts

284 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I will be using 28g RCT3s in a 6 in my 20 bore - works for me

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Still have a pallet of Hull Imperial 30g 5's left over from last season.

To be honest, i've shot game with a variety of different carts and in my limited experience, the difference (beyond recoil) is not noticeable.....we've got a pallet of Layvale express (which we got cheaply) waiting to be used. I'll let you know how we get on with them.

Hoppum

134 posts

98 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Has anyone got any recommendations for Shooters Liability Insurance?

Obviously there's the BASC but there seems to be a lot of negativity towards them without any actual details as to why they're no good.

Ziplobb

1,362 posts

284 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Hoppum said:
Has anyone got any recommendations for Shooters Liability Insurance?

Obviously there's the BASC but there seems to be a lot of negativity towards them without any actual details as to why they're no good.
I think thats more to do with the way its run the argybargy from last year - the insurance is good and I have known of a few people that have relied on it and of course their legal team.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Hoppum said:
Has anyone got any recommendations for Shooters Liability Insurance?

Obviously there's the BASC but there seems to be a lot of negativity towards them without any actual details as to why they're no good.
I use Gunplan.

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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crispyshark said:
Hoppum said:
Has anyone got any recommendations for Shooters Liability Insurance?

Obviously there's the BASC but there seems to be a lot of negativity towards them without any actual details as to why they're no good.
I use Gunplan.
If you join the NRA, which isn't a bad plan if you want to be able to turn up at Bisley and waste stuff with a 308, then NRA membership comes with insurance. I think the membership is about £75/year. Note that to shoot at Bisley, you also need a range safety certificate off the NRA.

z4RRSchris

11,292 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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phib said:
Has anyone bought a nice side by side recently ? Any advice ?

Thinking Beretta 486 but have also been offered a really nice 471.

Any views welcome

Phib
I have a 486 in 20g...

its lovely.

Im in london if you want to have a go.


creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
I have a 486 in 20g...

its lovely.

Im in london if you want to have a go.
Hi, where around London do your use your shotgun? So far, around London the only place I've been shotgun shooting is the Bisley pay and play.

aeropilot

34,636 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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creampuff said:
Hi, where around London do your use your shotgun? So far, around London the only place I've been shotgun shooting is the Bisley pay and play.
Bisley Pay n Play is pretty good, and I go there a lot, even though West London Shooting Ground is only a few miles from home.



Jem0911

4,415 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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z4RRSchris

11,292 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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creampuff said:
Hi, where around London do your use your shotgun? So far, around London the only place I've been shotgun shooting is the Bisley pay and play.
EJ Churchill
Bisley
WLSS
AGL
A1
Fennes
Etc Etc


creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
EJ Churchill
Bisley
WLSS
AGL
A1
Fennes
Etc Etc
Thanks. Bisley pay and play prices are looking quite reasonable in comparison to some of the competition.


z4RRSchris

11,292 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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EJ’s i like the best. Bisley is just as good.

fennes & AGL are ok, the towers at Fennes are good.

A1 is average

the other posh ones, west london, purdey etc are dollar

Turn7

23,616 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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EJ's prpbably one of the best claygrounds in the UK, but not cheap if non member.
AGL looking better every week, but not been for a while,so unsure on costs...
Bisley always good value.

IMVHO

urquattroGus

1,849 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Fennes is our Local one and it's OK, but never seems to be open when you want it.

They have a wedding venue there too, so it's closed Saturday afternoons and Sunday, the two main times I want to go usually!

They do open three nights a week to 8pm, but that's only any good in the summer.

The best ground I have been to is High Lodge in Suffolk, which is owned by George Digweed, it's mostly in the woods, and there is a fantastic selection of stands! Think it's open most of the weekend too, just a bit far for me, 1.5 hours drive etc

Been meaning to try out a simulated game day too, have heard that they are fun.

Druid

1,312 posts

181 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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