The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
Discussion
Druid said:
wear a shirt and tie!!!
I think that's a British thing. Does anybody else bar the British wear a shirt and tie while shooting in the countryside? The only time I'm ever dressed up shooting anything is if I've just come from the office and still have a suit on. There is something strangely satisfying about wasting some targets with an MP5 while wearing a suit. A bit like.... like.... like... you are James Bond, who has just borrowed somebody's sub-machine gun for a bit of urgent business. Only I'm a bit fatter, my job is less glamorous and I don't have as many girlfriends or as many gadgets. 
I think there is quite a different hunting/shooting culture here in general really - I get the impression its often seen as a 'rich man's sport' in the UK which isn't the case at all here.
Am I right in thinking most or all of your hunting/shooting is on private land? About 30% of NZ is public land administered by the department of conservation, and a pretty large proportion of that is open for hunting.
GravelBen said:
I think there is quite a different hunting/shooting culture here in general really - I get the impression its often seen as a 'rich man's sport' in the UK which isn't the case at all here.
Am I right in thinking most or all of your hunting/shooting is on private land? About 30% of NZ is public land administered by the department of conservation, and a pretty large proportion of that is open for hunting.
Shooting is seasonal and involves game birds bred to be despatched for the table. Usually a shotgun sport.
Stalking is the other shooting sport which might be deer control. Usually a rifle sport.
They are all perceived as a 'rich man's sport' and some are just that but there is also a 'poor' version and of course more and more ladies are getting involved. The land is mainly private, some farmed and shot by local syndicates and others, estates where a more commercial attitude is expressed!
Even on the local farm shoots the guns often get well dressed but not everyone does and there isn't a great deal of 'us and them'. I like to see the girls in all the smart shooting gear but that's just because I'm a proper bloke!
Ah yes I forgot about the fox hunting thing, that doesn't exist here at all AFAIK. The early settlers tried to intruduce foxes but fortunately for the local ecology they all died before breeding.
Hunting is a pretty wide term for us - basically any wild mammal including rabbits, hares, wallabies, goats, pigs, deer, chamois, tahr... Mostly stalking with a rifle but people also use shotguns for smaller pests and hunt pigs with just dogs and knives. They are all introduced animals and legally considered pests in the wild, so no restrictions on how many you can take or hunting seasons etc.
Shooting under a spotlight at night is done for pest control but only allowed on private land, not on public land due to safety concerns.
Game bird shooting (almost entirely wild birds) is generally called shooting rather than hunting here too and a bit more controlled with seasons and bag limits.
Shooting targets, clay birds, tin cans, pumpkins etc is obviously just called shooting too.
It really covers the whole socio-economic spectrum though - from people hunting pigs/deer simply to put some meat in the freezer, through to helicopter access and guided trophy hunts at the other end of the scale.
Hunting is a pretty wide term for us - basically any wild mammal including rabbits, hares, wallabies, goats, pigs, deer, chamois, tahr... Mostly stalking with a rifle but people also use shotguns for smaller pests and hunt pigs with just dogs and knives. They are all introduced animals and legally considered pests in the wild, so no restrictions on how many you can take or hunting seasons etc.
Shooting under a spotlight at night is done for pest control but only allowed on private land, not on public land due to safety concerns.
Game bird shooting (almost entirely wild birds) is generally called shooting rather than hunting here too and a bit more controlled with seasons and bag limits.
Shooting targets, clay birds, tin cans, pumpkins etc is obviously just called shooting too.
It really covers the whole socio-economic spectrum though - from people hunting pigs/deer simply to put some meat in the freezer, through to helicopter access and guided trophy hunts at the other end of the scale.
Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 4th October 01:55
SlimRick said:
My SGC grant application went in just over a week ago. I've been advised by the Wilts FEO that it should take between 12 - 14 weeks to process.
In the meantime, I have my first lesson at Barbury Shooting School this afternoon...Let's hope I enjoy it!
Good luck with the SGC! Have you got a cabinet yet?In the meantime, I have my first lesson at Barbury Shooting School this afternoon...Let's hope I enjoy it!
Out of curiosity I (carefully) put a powerful LED torch into the chamber of the top barrel of my Beretta to see where the beam pointed.
I was quite surprised to find that it seems to ‘pattern’ roughly 50/50 rather than 60/40 as I was expecting.
Not as good as a pattern plate of course, but an interesting little experiment nonetheless.
I was quite surprised to find that it seems to ‘pattern’ roughly 50/50 rather than 60/40 as I was expecting.
Not as good as a pattern plate of course, but an interesting little experiment nonetheless.
chemistry said:
Out of curiosity I (carefully) put a powerful LED torch into the chamber of the top barrel of my Beretta to see where the beam pointed.
I was quite surprised to find that it seems to ‘pattern’ roughly 50/50 rather than 60/40 as I was expecting.
Not as good as a pattern plate of course, but an interesting little experiment nonetheless.
What's the distance between the end of the barrel and the background? Doesn't look more than a few yards. I think you'll find that once it gets out to around 20 yards the pattern will be a bit higher and more like you expected.I was quite surprised to find that it seems to ‘pattern’ roughly 50/50 rather than 60/40 as I was expecting.
Not as good as a pattern plate of course, but an interesting little experiment nonetheless.
You need a laser bore sighter to do that test properly. It can be quite useful to help set the correct cast and drop on your stock if it's adjustable.
chemistry said:
Good luck with the SGC! Have you got a cabinet yet?
Yes, the cabinet went in last week. I should’ve gone bigger, I’ve already “mentally” filled the three spaces in this one.Barbury was excellent. A great no-rush lesson, 60 shots and a variety of stands. It just happens to be conveniently located in the middle of the four towns I work from, I can see my journey times increasing by an hour or so once or twice a week.
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