The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[sc0tt]

I expire mid feb 2018. Should I drop in my renewal now?

[red_slr]

I think your only option is to renew as normal, its not likely there will be GFR.

[sc0tt]

red_slr said:

I think your only option is to renew as normal, its not likely there will be GFR.

Sorry SLR, not sure I understand what you mean by renew as normal?

GFR?

[red_slr]

Grand Father Rights. There is talk of this being possible but I highly doubt it myself.
Are you a FCSA shooter?

As for your renewal, I think as we are 4 months out you cant really do anything different? Unless you were looking to add slots?

[FurtiveFreddy]

Why should anyone do anything different just because a consultation has been announced?

This is always the reaction to these announcements. Carry on as normal and do whatever you can to defend our sport.

Note, I use the term 'sport', as to me it's a lot more than a hobby and I would like that to be acknowledged.

[red_slr]

Consultation is live.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/offens...

Click "respond online" towards the bottom of the page to fill in the response. You don't have to give your details at the end and ignore the bit about RFD stock; unless you are one of course.

[FurtiveFreddy]

red_slr said:

Consultation is live.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/offens...

Click "respond online" towards the bottom of the page to fill in the response. You don't have to give your details at the end and ignore the bit about RFD stock; unless you are one of course.

Some nonsense wording in that response document. Anyone with even the smallest grasp of reality should answer 'no' to virtually every one of those questions, they are so ambiguous.

[creampuff]

red_slr said:

+1. The community NEEDS to come together but sadly that wont happen.

You need only look at threads about guns anywhere on Pistonheads, where pretty much every time a British FAC holder will say something like "I'm ok but owners of (insert gun type here, which will be something they don't own and maybe made of black metal instead of wood) are cowboys/mentally unstable/fetishists/unsuitable"

[creampuff]

First I knew about this when I read this thread.

I looked up the consultation here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/offens...

But look at the link "Impact assessment: proposals on firearms" and only .50 and MARS is mentioned. There is no mention of lever release or semi-automatic rimfire.

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What is the problem under consideration? Why is government intervention necessary?
There is concern about the availability of .50 calibre and rapid-fire Manually Actuated Release System (MARS) rifles being available to some civilian firearms licence holders. The range and penetrative power of 0.50 calibre rifles makes them more dangerous than other common firearms and were they to be used in criminal or terrorist activities would present a serious threat to the public and would be uniquely difficult for the police to control. Due to the rate of discharge MARS rifles pose a comparable risk to the public and police as other self-loading weapons already banned in the UK. The Government need to intervene to ensure the purchase, ownership or possession is illegal.
What are the policy objectives and the intended effects?
The policy intends to remove the availability of these firearms for civilian sale and purchase, rental, loan or use, to reduce the risk of any involvement of one of these rifles in a criminal or terrorist incident.

[FurtiveFreddy]

creampuff said:

First I knew about this when I read this thread.

I looked up the consultation here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/offens...

But look at the link "Impact assessment: proposals on firearms" and only .50 and MARS is mentioned. There is no mention of lever release or semi-automatic rimfire.

There is some conflicting information regarding MARS and lever release, but it does seem they are focusing on MARS rifles in this consultation.
As always, .22 semi owners get worried when anything like this is announced, but there's nothing about those in this consultation.

Back in 2006, this was tried before and at that time they were going to include .22 semis with .50s and some others, but it was all quashed.

This consultation looks very much like a rush-job and I feel there's at least an even chance it will all be quashed again, but we can't be complacent.
There is no logical reason to pick on .50s and MARS alone, but then logic rarely comes into it.

[red_slr]

There is talk on one of the forums that someone has been denied a SGC Unicorn in the last few days when they put in a variation.

[creampuff]

^ What's a SGC unicorn?

[FurtiveFreddy]

A 9mm lever release carbine. Known as the 'unicorn' because it was talked about for a long time before anyone actually saw one.

[creampuff]

^ Haha, I've already fired one of those.

Not quite as satisfying as just going to a normal country and firing an AR-15

[creampuff]

So, the Winchester 92 lever action Chiappa that I bought is changing my life.

I've started listening to country music.

I've bought a hat.

I've bought a check pattern shirt.

I've spent the last hour at work looking at cowboy boots.

[FurtiveFreddy]

Weirdo

You're the sort of shooter who gives us a bad name.

You and the ones who believe in zombies

I mean, come on, shooting is not about having fun. It's serious stuff and if you have a smile on your face while you're doing it, you are obviously deranged in some way.

[aeropilot]

creampuff said:

So, the Winchester 92 lever action Chiappa that I bought is changing my life.

I've started listening to country music.

I've bought a hat.

I've bought a check pattern shirt.

I've spent the last hour at work looking at cowboy boots.

Serves you right, should have bought a Uberti instead

[RUNAMOK]

I declared a condition on my SGC renewal form this time round. The GP needs to write a short letter describing it following a short chat. However, they want to charge me £50 for the pleasure. Seems quite steep to me. It really is a 5-10 minute job which we could have done when I was there the other day. Is this right? They say it is 'not covered by the NHS' and so they need to charge. I agree that a SGC is discretionary but I am just surprised at the amount (the same the police want for processing a whole renewal..) This is Surrey btw.

[FurtiveFreddy]

RUNAMOK said:

I declared a condition on my SGC renewal form this time round. The GP needs to write a short letter describing it following a short chat. However, they want to charge me £50 for the pleasure. Seems quite steep to me. It really is a 5-10 minute job which we could have done when I was there the other day. Is this right? They say it is 'not covered by the NHS' and so they need to charge. I agree that a SGC is discretionary but I am just surprised at the amount (the same the police want for processing a whole renewal..) This is Surrey btw.

Not unusual at all I'm afraid. At least your GP is cooperative. Some aren't.

[DJFish]

I think it's normal for GPs to charge for things like that, how much they charge is down to them (but probably capped by the NHS)
Whatever's in the Surgery Principle's car park should offer an explanation.
If memory serves my GP charges around £25 for letters & runs an Audi RS5, does yours drive a Bentley?