The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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It's all down to reliability with the box-fed semi-autos. I've seen so many good match scores sabotaged by mis-feeds and jams. The top competitors have spent an awful lot of time getting them to run right. The rest just seem to put up with the problems.
It's one of the main reasons I haven't gone that way myself. Regular semi autos can be bad enough and mine went through a 'bad period' but thankfully is running very well now.
Not a consideration if you're just going to have fun with it, but something to bear in mind when making the choice.
It's one of the main reasons I haven't gone that way myself. Regular semi autos can be bad enough and mine went through a 'bad period' but thankfully is running very well now.
Not a consideration if you're just going to have fun with it, but something to bear in mind when making the choice.
Just found this thread and it's good reading. I'd previously done some clay shooting on a stag weekend, got on pretty well and really enjoyed it.
One of my best mates has been shooting for a while now and joined a club last year, his dad's always shot and he was already a member. Anyway he got himself a shotgun and joined up and even got his lad a .410 to have a go with (he's 9) and they go every 2 weeks. Since new years eve I've been joining them and sharing his gun (Browning B725 Sporter) and I've had a great time. I've managed to score in the high 20s and early 30s out of 50 which I'm happy with and its apparently not bad for a beginner.
It's really social, some great blokes (and ladies) who are all really happy to offer piss taking and advice in equal measures and it's an all round pleasant way to spend a Sunday morning.
I'm now thinking of getting myself a shotgun certificate, cabinet and eventually a shotgun to put in it but initially some ear protection as foam plugs don't cut the mustard.
I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
One of my best mates has been shooting for a while now and joined a club last year, his dad's always shot and he was already a member. Anyway he got himself a shotgun and joined up and even got his lad a .410 to have a go with (he's 9) and they go every 2 weeks. Since new years eve I've been joining them and sharing his gun (Browning B725 Sporter) and I've had a great time. I've managed to score in the high 20s and early 30s out of 50 which I'm happy with and its apparently not bad for a beginner.
It's really social, some great blokes (and ladies) who are all really happy to offer piss taking and advice in equal measures and it's an all round pleasant way to spend a Sunday morning.
I'm now thinking of getting myself a shotgun certificate, cabinet and eventually a shotgun to put in it but initially some ear protection as foam plugs don't cut the mustard.
I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
If you can try on a few sets of muffs (assuming you are going that route) as they are all slightly different shape. Sordins were the best fit for me and have worn them for 4+ hours in one stint and no issues.
I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
red_slr said:
If you can try on a few sets of muffs (assuming you are going that route) as they are all slightly different shape. Sordins were the best fit for me and have worn them for 4+ hours in one stint and no issues.
You may find that as you don't have your own gun (yet) you may pick the wrong muffs......as I found that both pair of leccy muffs I had for rifle shooting interfered with shooting a shotgun, as knocking/clashing with the stock.I ended up having a set of custom moulded leccy ear plugs made for clay shooting, so they didn't interfere with the shotgun stock.
red_slr said:
I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
Some forces want to see that you are also a member of a club that shoots a FAC shotgun discipline before granting you a S1 shotty, so if your current club doesn't have that facility, you need to join one that does etc. And, as said, that also means you have to show enough usage of it as well.red_slr said:
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
Hope your slot is a .44spl/.44mag and not just .44mag Now do I go brass or steel!
I assume you are looking at a Henry then with the brass/steel decision...?
Nice guns, well made, nice action and accurate, but I prefer my underlevers with a proper side gate loading....just can't get on with that unscrew tube loading of the Henry
We shoot everything, well almost.
Yes I have both sizes. I will probably start re-loading at some point.
I am not a fan of the side loaders. They are ok for a while but if you are shooting for an hour or so and in the cold I find them really not nice to get the last few rounds in on my thumbs!
The tube of the Big Boy is so much more civilised
Yes I have both sizes. I will probably start re-loading at some point.
I am not a fan of the side loaders. They are ok for a while but if you are shooting for an hour or so and in the cold I find them really not nice to get the last few rounds in on my thumbs!
The tube of the Big Boy is so much more civilised
red_slr said:
If you can try on a few sets of muffs (assuming you are going that route) as they are all slightly different shape. Sordins were the best fit for me and have worn them for 4+ hours in one stint and no issues.
I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
Have heard this mentioned before too.I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
Apparantly when I sign in to my (police approved) range in the near future I will have to detail serial numbers.....this is getting all a bit silly.
Oh I'm talking airguns btw.
aeropilot said:
red_slr said:
If you can try on a few sets of muffs (assuming you are going that route) as they are all slightly different shape. Sordins were the best fit for me and have worn them for 4+ hours in one stint and no issues.
You may find that as you don't have your own gun (yet) you may pick the wrong muffs......as I found that both pair of leccy muffs I had for rifle shooting interfered with shooting a shotgun, as knocking/clashing with the stock.I ended up having a set of custom moulded leccy ear plugs made for clay shooting, so they didn't interfere with the shotgun stock.
red_slr said:
I have a Mossberg 500 and was thinking about converting it to a long tube and getting it over onto my FAC for PSG but not had the time. Had my renewal recently and FEO had a bit of a different attitude this time and very much of the opinion you had to be using your (FAC) guns regularly so don't think I could justify it.
Some forces want to see that you are also a member of a club that shoots a FAC shotgun discipline before granting you a S1 shotty, so if your current club doesn't have that facility, you need to join one that does etc. And, as said, that also means you have to show enough usage of it as well.red_slr said:
On the plus side I have now got a slot for .44 under lever....
Now do I go brass or steel!
Hope your slot is a .44spl/.44mag and not just .44mag Now do I go brass or steel!
I assume you are looking at a Henry then with the brass/steel decision...?
Nice guns, well made, nice action and accurate, but I prefer my underlevers with a proper side gate loading....just can't get on with that unscrew tube loading of the Henry
Really, really great shooting, fair bit of Kentucky windage required too which made it all the more enjoyable, you can't beat doing it by eye..
On renewal they used to look at ammo purchased.
But now (for target shooters) they want proof from clubs of attendance.
I think in the past 3 visits per year as a minimum ideally with 3 uses of each firearm too.
My club has just introduced a swipe card system so you swipe in then you select which firearm you are going to use.
At the end of the year they can produce a report showing who has shot what. My FEO was fully aware and sounded quite keen to see the records in a year or so! I know there are many members with 10+ guns who only ever shoot 3 or 4 of them....
But now (for target shooters) they want proof from clubs of attendance.
I think in the past 3 visits per year as a minimum ideally with 3 uses of each firearm too.
My club has just introduced a swipe card system so you swipe in then you select which firearm you are going to use.
At the end of the year they can produce a report showing who has shot what. My FEO was fully aware and sounded quite keen to see the records in a year or so! I know there are many members with 10+ guns who only ever shoot 3 or 4 of them....
red_slr said:
On renewal they used to look at ammo purchased.
But now (for target shooters) they want proof from clubs of attendance.
I think in the past 3 visits per year as a minimum ideally with 3 uses of each firearm too.
My club has just introduced a swipe card system so you swipe in then you select which firearm you are going to use.
At the end of the year they can produce a report showing who has shot what. My FEO was fully aware and sounded quite keen to see the records in a year or so! I know there are many members with 10+ guns who only ever shoot 3 or 4 of them....
The problem was I think, that some people would buy ammo from their club, shoot it on the day etc, so not recorded on FAC, so probably one of the reasons (among many!) with the move to recording serial numbers on club records against usage. But now (for target shooters) they want proof from clubs of attendance.
I think in the past 3 visits per year as a minimum ideally with 3 uses of each firearm too.
My club has just introduced a swipe card system so you swipe in then you select which firearm you are going to use.
At the end of the year they can produce a report showing who has shot what. My FEO was fully aware and sounded quite keen to see the records in a year or so! I know there are many members with 10+ guns who only ever shoot 3 or 4 of them....
My club doesn't have its own facilities, so usage issue limits are an issue now for some of our longer serving members that may have only shot some guns once or twice during the year. Its now shoot it or loose it
I know someone from another club that has now moved some of his 'collection' onto a collectors ticket, keeping only a selection of them on his FAC. After a couple of years, he moves some of them off his FAC onto the collection ticket, and moves some of the 'collection' over to his FAC so he can shoot them for a few years., rinse and repeat etc.
Bit of a faff.....but means he can show usage but keep some of the rarer stuff etc.
Greendubber said:
I'm now thinking of getting myself a shotgun certificate, cabinet and eventually a shotgun to put in it but initially some ear protection as foam plugs don't cut the mustard.
I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
Don't think too much. Just apply for a shotgun certificate. Buy guns. I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
Buy the muffs later .
creampuff said:
Greendubber said:
I'm now thinking of getting myself a shotgun certificate, cabinet and eventually a shotgun to put in it but initially some ear protection as foam plugs don't cut the mustard.
I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
Don't think too much. Just apply for a shotgun certificate. Buy guns. I'm sure I'll be piping up with some questions somewhere down the line.
Buy the muffs later .
creampuff said:
What is the British Shooting Show like? Big? Not so big? Do the vendors have mobile credit card payment facilities?
Was thinking of turning up this weekend and buying some more guns.
It's not this weekend, its the following weekend.Was thinking of turning up this weekend and buying some more guns.
Difficult to know how big, as its at a new venue, as been at Stoneleigh for the past several years. In theory should be bigger than previous years.........but, won't know till getting there.
Some of them might take mobile credit, some won't.
Are you after shotguns?
creampuff said:
What is the British Shooting Show like? Big? Not so big? Do the vendors have mobile credit card payment facilities?
Was thinking of turning up this weekend and buying some more guns.
I think I remember reading it’s in 3 of the halls this year which should help with the squeeze that we often had to negotiate in Stoneleigh when travelling between their halls. Was thinking of turning up this weekend and buying some more guns.
The vast majority take cards, just don’t forget your FAC / SGC!
Biggest test for me is if they vary it up a bit. I’ve been the last three or four years on the trot and for the main it’s been the same format and layout which got a little boring and I wouldn’t be going if they hadn’t moved it this year.
I just hope they’re not filling the extra space with more flavoured gin stands.
creampuff said:
Mmmm. I want to buy a rifle. It's such a major fap going to look at a rifle you aren't sure about unless there is a show on and there are a lot of dealers in one spot. I wish it was like the US and there was a major gun store within 30 mins drive of where ever you are.
I wouldn't expect a lot of dealers there to be honest........if you mean used rather than new, depending on what type of rifle as well.Have a look at the traders listing for the show on the show website.
creampuff said:
Mmmm. I want to buy a rifle. It's such a major fap going to look at a rifle you aren't sure about unless there is a show on and there are a lot of dealers in one spot. I wish it was like the US and there was a major gun store within 30 mins drive of where ever you are.
Where are you near?There were quite a lot of dealers at the Harrogate show i bought a new rifle there.
Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 13th February 06:59
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