The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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Thankfully there is a second fore-end.
Picked them up today from the manufacturer and went to smack some clays. They handle superbly and are very well balanced. Despite being lighter than my Berettas, they have the same recoil. I need to get used to the weight - my mounting was a bit inconsistent as I think my muscle memory is calibrated to the Berettas.
High birds and grouse both seemed to be fine - it was the slower lower partridge that foxed me - too much time to think about it, I suspect.
Picked them up today from the manufacturer and went to smack some clays. They handle superbly and are very well balanced. Despite being lighter than my Berettas, they have the same recoil. I need to get used to the weight - my mounting was a bit inconsistent as I think my muscle memory is calibrated to the Berettas.
High birds and grouse both seemed to be fine - it was the slower lower partridge that foxed me - too much time to think about it, I suspect.
AstonZagato said:
Thankfully there is a second fore-end.
Picked them up today from the manufacturer and went to smack some clays. They handle superbly and are very well balanced. Despite being lighter than my Berettas, they have the same recoil. I need to get used to the weight - my mounting was a bit inconsistent as I think my muscle memory is calibrated to the Berettas.
High birds and grouse both seemed to be fine - it was the slower lower partridge that foxed me - too much time to think about it, I suspect.
I love that kind of impulse snap shooting, it's come over the hedge, no time to think, BANG - Good shot sir etc!!!Picked them up today from the manufacturer and went to smack some clays. They handle superbly and are very well balanced. Despite being lighter than my Berettas, they have the same recoil. I need to get used to the weight - my mounting was a bit inconsistent as I think my muscle memory is calibrated to the Berettas.
High birds and grouse both seemed to be fine - it was the slower lower partridge that foxed me - too much time to think about it, I suspect.
I really struggle with the birds I see from a long way out, too much time to think!!!
Maybe that's just me but I suspect I"m not alone??
Everytime I have a day and think wow I've got this sussed it seems to be followed by a day of misery!
urquattroGus said:
I love that kind of impulse snap shooting, it's come over the hedge, no time to think, BANG - Good shot sir etc!!!
I really struggle with the birds I see from a long way out, too much time to think!!!
Maybe that's just me but I suspect I"m not alone??
Everytime I have a day and think wow I've got this sussed it seems to be followed by a day of misery!
Likewise. I struggle as I'm very left eye dominant and right handed. Certain shots I can't hit a barn door, with one eye closed or using a patch on shooting glasses etc. Others I sometimes astound myself hitt9ng fast high pigeons and knockingthem clean out of the sky. I really struggle with the birds I see from a long way out, too much time to think!!!
Maybe that's just me but I suspect I"m not alone??
Everytime I have a day and think wow I've got this sussed it seems to be followed by a day of misery!
When they come in and you watch them from miles I tend to miss easy shots, as you say the snap shot no thinking ones sometimes are much better!
jamest1988 said:
I've had shot guns for a few years now. After spending a couple of hours plinking with a friends Ruger 10/22 I'm hooked, just filled in my application for my firearms cert. Hopefully if I get it posted this week my license might arrive in time for me to buy myself a Christmas rifle!
Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
Haven't owned a 10/22 but used mates ones, they're reliable rifles but not generally very accurate (which is part of the reason there are so many aftermarket parts for them). The Marlin semi-autos are just as reliable with a much better reputation for accuracy.Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
Both have horrible heavy factory triggers though.
GravelBen said:
Haven't owned a 10/22 but used mates ones, they're reliable rifles but not generally very accurate (which is part of the reason there are so many aftermarket parts for them). The Marlin semi-autos are just as reliable with a much better reputation for accuracy.
Both have horrible heavy factory triggers though.
I had a Marlin too. Heavier and more clunky than the 10/22 and no more accurate, although I do have a Volquartsen barrel on mine.Both have horrible heavy factory triggers though.
I'd always recommend having a go before choosing though. We all have our own opinions.
They are 30" barrels, 14 3/4" stocks.
I don't often double gun anymore. Perhaps a couple of days one season, none the next. It's fabulous, especially on the grouse. It's great to have an extra set of eyes and the chat in the butt can be very amusing. I remember shooting at one grouse and thinking I'd clipped it. It zipped out of sight. "Do you think it will come down?" I asked the loader. "Aye sir. When it gets hungry."
I don't often double gun anymore. Perhaps a couple of days one season, none the next. It's fabulous, especially on the grouse. It's great to have an extra set of eyes and the chat in the butt can be very amusing. I remember shooting at one grouse and thinking I'd clipped it. It zipped out of sight. "Do you think it will come down?" I asked the loader. "Aye sir. When it gets hungry."
GravelBen said:
jamest1988 said:
I've had shot guns for a few years now. After spending a couple of hours plinking with a friends Ruger 10/22 I'm hooked, just filled in my application for my firearms cert. Hopefully if I get it posted this week my license might arrive in time for me to buy myself a Christmas rifle!
Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
Haven't owned a 10/22 but used mates ones, they're reliable rifles but not generally very accurate (which is part of the reason there are so many aftermarket parts for them). The Marlin semi-autos are just as reliable with a much better reputation for accuracy.Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
Both have horrible heavy factory triggers though.
jamest1988 said:
I've had shot guns for a few years now. After spending a couple of hours plinking with a friends Ruger 10/22 I'm hooked, just filled in my application for my firearms cert. Hopefully if I get it posted this week my license might arrive in time for me to buy myself a Christmas rifle!
Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
As somebody else mentioned, if you haven't sent off the application yet, just specify 22LR, not the action type. I've seen around 2000 rounds approved on an initial grant. YMMV. Anyone else have a 10/22? I'd love to see some pictures of them along with any mods you can recommend.
I've tried out a Rimfire Magic and a Voquartsen, but I don't actually think a vanilla 10/22 is much use to buy for a target gun as there are more accurate rifles and there are more fun rifles. If you had a farm and wanted to plink stuff, they would be great for that. Club shooting, less so. Unless you get one of the heavily tricked up Rimfire Magics or Voquartsens I mentioned, then you get the accuracy.
I echo Creampuff’s sentiment here. I have a 10/22 and a CZ455. You can count the amount of times my 10/22 has been out of the cabinet and down the range on one hand. It’s nowhere near as accurate as my CZ and wouldn’t trust it for my competitions.
It’s fun, very customisable, bit fussy with ammo and its place for me is in the field where I’d be aiming at something that didn’t require as much precision as a PL14 bull.
Sidenote, I’ve got a 10/22 bull pup conversion kit (drop in and play) that will be going for sale when I can be bothered if anyone’s interested.
It’s fun, very customisable, bit fussy with ammo and its place for me is in the field where I’d be aiming at something that didn’t require as much precision as a PL14 bull.
Sidenote, I’ve got a 10/22 bull pup conversion kit (drop in and play) that will be going for sale when I can be bothered if anyone’s interested.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get lined up and shot for asking this but...
I'd like to have a go at target practice with a scoped rifle, but it seems quite a lengthy process, difficult to get into and costly. So, I was thinking about trying out an air rifle to see if it is something I might like to pursue with proper rifles. (Am aware the airgun license is required.)
Are there any suggestions of an airgun that is a good starter and has a bit of range (for an airgun).
I'd like to have a go at target practice with a scoped rifle, but it seems quite a lengthy process, difficult to get into and costly. So, I was thinking about trying out an air rifle to see if it is something I might like to pursue with proper rifles. (Am aware the airgun license is required.)
Are there any suggestions of an airgun that is a good starter and has a bit of range (for an airgun).
Efbe said:
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get lined up and shot for asking this but...
I'd like to have a go at target practice with a scoped rifle, but it seems quite a lengthy process, difficult to get into and costly. So, I was thinking about trying out an air rifle to see if it is something I might like to pursue with proper rifles. (Am aware the airgun license is required.)
Are there any suggestions of an airgun that is a good starter and has a bit of range (for an airgun).
Not at all.I'd like to have a go at target practice with a scoped rifle, but it seems quite a lengthy process, difficult to get into and costly. So, I was thinking about trying out an air rifle to see if it is something I might like to pursue with proper rifles. (Am aware the airgun license is required.)
Are there any suggestions of an airgun that is a good starter and has a bit of range (for an airgun).
I suspect the vast majority of 'shooters', whatever their discipline, started with an air gun of sorts.
Broadly today there are two types; springers and compressed air.
Compressed air from either a bottle or tank offer 'easier' shooting, whereas a springer will teach you more (in the long run) about firearms shooting in general.
Now THAT'S a can of worms!
tumble dryer said:
Not at all.
I suspect the vast majority of 'shooters', whatever their discipline, started with an air gun of sorts.
Broadly today there are two types; springers and compressed air.
Compressed air from either a bottle or tank offer 'easier' shooting, whereas a springer will teach you more (in the long run) about firearms shooting in general.
Now THAT'S a can of worms!
ok cool, thanks for that.I suspect the vast majority of 'shooters', whatever their discipline, started with an air gun of sorts.
Broadly today there are two types; springers and compressed air.
Compressed air from either a bottle or tank offer 'easier' shooting, whereas a springer will teach you more (in the long run) about firearms shooting in general.
Now THAT'S a can of worms!
Springer would be fine for me, I get it requires a reload every shot.
Is there anything I should be looking for in particular.
Is this the kind of thing I need: https://www.fishingmegastore.com/spring-air-rifles...
or more this?: http://www.theairguncentre.com/weihrauch-hw-100-kt...
Well not wanting to turn this into a whatairgun thread, just a few questions though.
If I go the springer route, break barrel or under lever?
And buy a scope separate, or better to get a combo like: https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/gamo-hp-ami-2...
Efbe said:
tumble dryer said:
Not at all.
I suspect the vast majority of 'shooters', whatever their discipline, started with an air gun of sorts.
Broadly today there are two types; springers and compressed air.
Compressed air from either a bottle or tank offer 'easier' shooting, whereas a springer will teach you more (in the long run) about firearms shooting in general.
Now THAT'S a can of worms!
ok cool, thanks for that.I suspect the vast majority of 'shooters', whatever their discipline, started with an air gun of sorts.
Broadly today there are two types; springers and compressed air.
Compressed air from either a bottle or tank offer 'easier' shooting, whereas a springer will teach you more (in the long run) about firearms shooting in general.
Now THAT'S a can of worms!
Springer would be fine for me, I get it requires a reload every shot.
Is there anything I should be looking for in particular.
Is this the kind of thing I need: https://www.fishingmegastore.com/spring-air-rifles...
or more this?: http://www.theairguncentre.com/weihrauch-hw-100-kt...
BTW, it's not so much the single shot from a springer that you learn more from; it's more about trigger release. A tank fed weapon has a far cleaner 'break', whereas a springer (not so much the Weihrauch) tends to have more by way of creep, and a more physical 'break'. Horses/courses really.
What do you have by way of a facility in which / where to shoot?
tumble dryer said:
They're almost at opposite ends of the spectrum quality wise. The Weihrauch is a serious bit of kit (virtually regardless of model variant) and probably more deserving of having 'worked-up' to the make; I'd suggest that not many airgun shooters start from this position. I had a Stoeger for a year as a trainer for a friend (not that model) and the spring broke, but it had served its purpose; the guy's now a fanatic!
BTW, it's not so much the single shot from a springer that you learn more from; it's more about trigger release. A tank fed weapon has a far cleaner 'break', whereas a springer (not so much the Weihrauch) tends to have more by way of creep, and a more physical 'break'. Horses/courses really.
What do you have by way of a facility in which / where to shoot?
I live in the middle of nowhere, so have either thousands of acres of mountains/forests, or also an industrial unit with just me in to shoot in.BTW, it's not so much the single shot from a springer that you learn more from; it's more about trigger release. A tank fed weapon has a far cleaner 'break', whereas a springer (not so much the Weihrauch) tends to have more by way of creep, and a more physical 'break'. Horses/courses really.
What do you have by way of a facility in which / where to shoot?
will have to read up on the legalities of this first as well
Will probably start on a cheaper one as you suggest then. Is stoeger an ok budget brand, or would a Gamo or even a cheap Weihrauch be better or not really matter at the c£200ish price bracket.
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