The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[creampuff]

Yes, I think coughing up for a chrono is the only answer. Seems they aren’t that expensive.

[FurtiveFreddy]

The Magnetospeed one is very good and I've found it accurate.

[creampuff]

^ Just looked at them. Are they better than the ones that look like this?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Caldwell-1006315-Ssi-Ball...

[FurtiveFreddy]

creampuff said:

^ Just looked at them. Are they better than the ones that look like this?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Caldwell-1006315-Ssi-Ball...

Yes, absolutely. Take my word for it.

[creampuff]

^ Mmm. I think it won't fit on the barrel of my 22LR MP5, that's the only thing with those barrel mounted ones.

[aeropilot]

Got my first chance to bang a few rounds through my Norwegian capture K98 yesterday at the end of our 300 yard club shoot......

Given my aged eyesight, I had to wait till the end of the club shoot, just in case I shot out the frame wires of the fancy new leccy targets, as battle sights at 300yrds with my eyes would be more miss than hit
However, I managed to get a couple of 3's and even a 4 with the old girl, which given the K98's small size and the vicious kick of the 30-06 ammo I was quite pleased with...........can't wait to get it scoped up. Might have to use a distinctly non-period leather stock extender though as the LOP is very short on a K98 and I have long arms, so it wasn't the easiest thing to shoot, which is surprising really, given the image of big burly Aryan Stormtroopers......

[creampuff]

^ Nice. Are these electronic targets the ones at Bisley?

I used the 600 yard electronics at Bisley last week. It was beautiful. Most of them in the V-bull. Almost no wind may have helped though

[Pesty]

Electronic targets that’s a dream right there no more standing in the butts all morning lifting the fking targets.

Still don’t know why we can’t all give a fiver each in to some kids but anyway


I’ve just fitted a red dot to my PSG use shotgun. I’ve read many times that the idea is to keep both eyes open with them. Doesn’t look possible to me although that might be because I’m left master eyed.

Anybody use one?

[aeropilot]

creampuff said:

Are these electronic targets the ones at Bisley?

Yes.

[FurtiveFreddy]

Pesty said:

Electronic targets that’s a dream right there no more standing in the butts all morning lifting the fking targets.

Still don’t know why we can’t all give a fiver each in to some kids but anyway


I’ve just fitted a red dot to my PSG use shotgun. I’ve read many times that the idea is to keep both eyes open with them. Doesn’t look possible to me although that might be because I’m left master eyed.

Anybody use one?

If that's the case then just close your left eye!
I use red dots on almost every type of gun. Sometimes I shoot both eyes open and sometimes one eye.
It's a question of what works for you, although in action/practical shooting, just like clay shooting, both eyes open will help you acquire targets.

[200Plus Club]

Pesty said:

Electronic targets that’s a dream right there no more standing in the butts all morning lifting the fking targets.

Still don’t know why we can’t all give a fiver each in to some kids but anyway


I’ve just fitted a red dot to my PSG use shotgun. I’ve read many times that the idea is to keep both eyes open with them. Doesn’t look possible to me although that might be because I’m left master eyed.

Anybody use one?

I have one on of the red tube sights my shotty as I'm extremely left eye dominant. I sometimes forget to keep both open and fix only on the target (pigeons) and often then miss on crossing shots as it's hard to judge lead in certain directions.
If I snap shoot and think less I'm generally better. Fix on the target, bring the gun up and shoulder it and the red dot generally ends up on the target. I'm still crap lol but the average is up if i do it that way as opposed to when I forget and nip my left eye shut while trying to shoulder the gun etc.

[FurtiveFreddy]

It would be more of a problem shooting game or clays but in PSG the targets are (on the whole) fixed and once you've walked the stage a couple of times you'll know where they are, so it's less of an issue if you can't shoot both eyes open.

[Pesty]

Match on Saturday and maybe Sunday so I’ll see how it goes.

[FurtiveFreddy]

Pesty said:

Match on Saturday and maybe Sunday so I’ll see how it goes.

Do I remember correctly you've got an F12 for PSG?

[Turn7]

Ive always loved the idea of PSG, but it does feel like it was dreamed up by the cartridge companies to boost sales.....

[creampuff]

I've just re-looked at my 600 yard shooting at Bisley using the electronic targets and I can't figure out if what I was shooting at was what I thought it was. Obv being electronic, what appears on the display might have no relationship to what appears in your scope, looking at the physical target.

I'm trying to figure out either the physical size or size in MOA of the rings.

So, what I had in the LCD display said "TR-600y". It had a maximum score of 5, plus the V-ring. But now I can't figure out if it was the GB or ICFRA target which are explained here:
https://www.gbrt.org.uk/about-shooting/targets/

[aeropilot]

creampuff said:

I've just re-looked at my 600 yard shooting at Bisley using the electronic targets and I can't figure out if what I was shooting at was what I thought it was. Obv being electronic, what appears on the display might have no relationship to what appears in your scope, looking at the physical target.

I'm trying to figure out either the physical size or size in MOA of the rings.

So, what I had in the LCD display said "TR-600y". It had a maximum score of 5, plus the V-ring. But now I can't figure out if it was the GB or ICFRA target which are explained here:
https://www.gbrt.org.uk/about-shooting/targets/

Pretty sure its the GB one.

[Pesty]

Turn7 said:

Ive always loved the idea of PSG, but it does feel like it was dreamed up by the cartridge companies to boost sales.....

Oh it does that alright and slugs are very expensive too.

FurtiveFreddy said:

Pesty said:

Match on Saturday and maybe Sunday so I’ll see how it goes.

Do I remember correctly you've got an F12 for PSG?

Yes therefore in the open class so I can do pretty much anything to it.

I’ve been using the berreta 1301 for clays it’s just so light and easy the F12 weighs a ton. Will be switching to that but arthritis in fingers makes magazine changes easier.

I much prefer the traditional grip to the pistol grip. Far more accurate with it.

[creampuff]

aeropilot said:

Pretty sure its the GB one.

Mmm, OK. My shooting was a bit crap then. Actually a bit crap irrespective of if it was the GB or ICFRA target.

The circles on the LCD target display were about two times bigger than I thought they were. That also explains why I needed to dial in more windage adjustment than I thought I should based on the fall of the previous shots: I needed to move the impact a bigger physical distance than I thought.

Before starting shooting, I measured the size of the black on the physical target using my scope. It measured about 1.75mrad (I have a mrad scope), which equals about 6 MOA. The target on the LCD screen also had a grid pattern on it and the black on the LCD target was about 6 grid squares in diameter. I assumed that this meant it was 6MOA in diameter, same as what I could see through my scope. It only occurred to me afterwards that the target on the LCD screen may have no relationship to the physical size of the black that you are shooting at and that you can see through your scope.

So, I think the size of the black on the LCD target display is about 12MOA diameter, not the 6MOA that I thought. The size of the black on the physical target is about 6MOA or about half the size of what is displayed on the LCD screen. Or maybe I'm just confused?

Edited by creampuff on Tuesday 4th September 22:47

[Pesty]

Well,you’ve certainly confused me

But them I’m just at the stage of oh that’s low erm let’s try six clicks

Better let’s try six more

I’d be a st hit man.