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Lord.Vader said:
Any suggestions on a first gun?
I have a lesson on 2nd Nov, went in for a quick look and the chap suggested I discount Browning (very hefty) and look more at Rizzinni (?) and / or Beretta SP, 30" barrel with multi chokes.
Buy what fits you best, not the name or what other people suggest.I have a lesson on 2nd Nov, went in for a quick look and the chap suggested I discount Browning (very hefty) and look more at Rizzinni (?) and / or Beretta SP, 30" barrel with multi chokes.
Do they have test guns from the various makers where you are having lessons, as this is best way to try them all out?
I tried a selection of Berettas, Benelli, Casear's and a few others, and had ignored the Brownings. My mate has a Browning 525 and I tried that, and hey presto, just gelled with it, so bought a Browning.
The Italian guns all had shorter LOP and stock casts that just didn't fit my shape/cheek bone structure, and were all going to need custom fitting etc at extra expense whereas the Brownings pretty much fitted out of the box.
Are you game shooting or clay shooting?
If clay busting, a bit of extra heft doesn't go amiss, especially if you do 100+ clays a session.
Macs do a bit of everything, air guns, section 1, shotguns, replicas etc. So, IMHO, they don't quite have the selection.
Tim is the chap to speak to there and has a lot of knowledge, if you can get hold of him as they get crazy busy to the point where I only go in if I am passing.
That said they are close to each other so you could always pop in and see what they have.
Tim is the chap to speak to there and has a lot of knowledge, if you can get hold of him as they get crazy busy to the point where I only go in if I am passing.
That said they are close to each other so you could always pop in and see what they have.
Rather than quote everyone;
Yes they do have a selection for me to try whilst on my lesson(s), as above I like the Browning and I will try one before buying anything I'm just going off what the chap told me
Really looking forward to it, I used to enjoy being outdoor walking / fishing when I was younger but since I moved away (and back) I became a bit lazy!
Just clays for now.
I'm not bothered about the make really, just something that if I don't get on with the sport or stop then it has a resale value.
Yes they do have a selection for me to try whilst on my lesson(s), as above I like the Browning and I will try one before buying anything I'm just going off what the chap told me
Really looking forward to it, I used to enjoy being outdoor walking / fishing when I was younger but since I moved away (and back) I became a bit lazy!
Just clays for now.
I'm not bothered about the make really, just something that if I don't get on with the sport or stop then it has a resale value.
Just submitted a variation for a .44 black powder pistol, I fancy a nice Remington 1858.
In fact the original reason I wanted to start shooting was black powder pistols, but then I got distracted by rifles. Also, the whole '5 minutes loading, 1 minute shooting and an hour cleaning' thing did put me off a bit.
However, the bug is still biting me so I have decided to take the plunge. Also, I do have a black powder rifle already, albeit a cartridge fed one, so I do still get the cleaning part anyway.
Further updates as the situation warrants.
In fact the original reason I wanted to start shooting was black powder pistols, but then I got distracted by rifles. Also, the whole '5 minutes loading, 1 minute shooting and an hour cleaning' thing did put me off a bit.
However, the bug is still biting me so I have decided to take the plunge. Also, I do have a black powder rifle already, albeit a cartridge fed one, so I do still get the cleaning part anyway.
Further updates as the situation warrants.
Lord.Vader said:
I like them, but as I am a not a powerfully built PH director they look a tad OTT for me.
My lesson is also to try out a few guns and see how I get on ... will have a look at the chap you suggested, not all that far from me 1 / 1.5 hours.
£1000 isn’t that much in the land of name brand over-unders. My lesson is also to try out a few guns and see how I get on ... will have a look at the chap you suggested, not all that far from me 1 / 1.5 hours.
If you aren’t set on a double barrel, you could also consider a pump action or semi-auto. Racking the action on a pump is deeply satisfying
I don’t shoot live birds, but I’ve heard you will get a lot of tut-tutting from septuagenarian people dressed in full tweed if you use anything other than a double barrel though.
MKnight702 said:
Just submitted a variation for a .44 black powder pistol, I fancy a nice Remington 1858.
In fact the original reason I wanted to start shooting was black powder pistols, but then I got distracted by rifles. Also, the whole '5 minutes loading, 1 minute shooting and an hour cleaning' thing did put me off a bit.
Could you be satisfied with a 44 long barrel revolver instead? You still get the pistol, although with that abomination attached to the grip, but it eliminates almost all the loading and cleaning time. In fact the original reason I wanted to start shooting was black powder pistols, but then I got distracted by rifles. Also, the whole '5 minutes loading, 1 minute shooting and an hour cleaning' thing did put me off a bit.
creampuff said:
Could you be satisfied with a 44 long barrel revolver instead? You still get the pistol, although with that abomination attached to the grip, but it eliminates almost all the loading and cleaning time.
I particularly love the 1858 though, just any .44 isn't going to cut it I'm afraid.creampuff said:
Lord.Vader said:
I like them, but as I am a not a powerfully built PH director they look a tad OTT for me.
My lesson is also to try out a few guns and see how I get on ... will have a look at the chap you suggested, not all that far from me 1 / 1.5 hours.
£1000 isn’t that much in the land of name brand over-unders. My lesson is also to try out a few guns and see how I get on ... will have a look at the chap you suggested, not all that far from me 1 / 1.5 hours.
If you aren’t set on a double barrel, you could also consider a pump action or semi-auto. Racking the action on a pump is deeply satisfying
I don’t shoot live birds, but I’ve heard you will get a lot of tut-tutting from septuagenarian people dressed in full tweed if you use anything other than a double barrel though.
It is only for clay shooting, I don't really mind what I have as long as it's supporting my learning, slightly forgiving, etc.
aeropilot said:
Yes, the obvious clear 'safe' mode which can be seen at a distance of a s/s or o/u when broken is the main reason, which goes against use of a pump or semi-auto shotgun when in the field.
Yes, I remember the first time I used a pump, it was a borrowed one at the rifle club. Guy hands it to me and says, “Do you know how to use it?” I just said yes, I’ve watched Terminator. And said I knew you could chamber it by holding it on end one-handed Arnie-style. “Better not do that here” he said 
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