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I can understand that to a point but I’ve been clay shooting 5 maybe 6 times and every single time I’ve been swept with un broken doubles sure they ‘know’ they’ve fired both chambers but I don’t
It’s the first thing that struck me out here discipline for shotguns is lacking compared to the center fire brigade
Safety was drummed into me by my father and grandfather so technically didn’t need it but
Having done ukpsa safety course all two days of it my shotgun is pointed down range once fired flag goes and then muzzle up.
You won’t be swept by my semi auto but I’ll be seept by somebody in tweed later today
It’s the first thing that struck me out here discipline for shotguns is lacking compared to the center fire brigade
Safety was drummed into me by my father and grandfather so technically didn’t need it but
Having done ukpsa safety course all two days of it my shotgun is pointed down range once fired flag goes and then muzzle up.
You won’t be swept by my semi auto but I’ll be seept by somebody in tweed later today
Well done guys slow hand clap. Guess who started finger f
king the over unders
One that felt really nice was a 525 sportier no idea if that’s good for clays but it just felt right.
Put that down picked another up had no writing on it just engraving and that felt even better like it was made just for me.
Put it down and left quickly.
I went with the daughter to press the buttons bit of practice before tomorrow. Found something odd when I didn’t know where they were coming from I mostly hit them when I knew I mostly missed wth?
Anyway place was very quiet drizzly and very windy so got to just practice over and over didn’t help. Definitely need lessons
Saw only 4 people walking around one holding a shotgun at the trail could have been a semi though.
I thought center fire was expensive
king the over unders One that felt really nice was a 525 sportier no idea if that’s good for clays but it just felt right.
Put that down picked another up had no writing on it just engraving and that felt even better like it was made just for me.
Put it down and left quickly.
I went with the daughter to press the buttons bit of practice before tomorrow. Found something odd when I didn’t know where they were coming from I mostly hit them when I knew I mostly missed wth?
Anyway place was very quiet drizzly and very windy so got to just practice over and over didn’t help. Definitely need lessons
Saw only 4 people walking around one holding a shotgun at the trail could have been a semi though.
I thought center fire was expensive
Pesty said:
Well done guys slow hand clap. Guess who started finger fking the over unders
One that felt really nice was a 525 sportier no idea if that’s good for clays but it just felt right.
525 is a good clay gun, and yes after trying lots of others it was using a 525 that felt just right to me as well.king the over unders One that felt really nice was a 525 sportier no idea if that’s good for clays but it just felt right.
I enjoy sporting clays, good fun, but, it does help that 5 others in my rifle club shoot clays as well, all of us in the same clay club
Yep I stopped shooting clays regularly a couple of years ago, great fun and I enjoyed it a lot but the cost has become a real issue along with how busy my local club gets now. I have seen a massive uptake in the sport which is great but the car park is so full you can sometimes end up walking in. 10-15 min wait on a stand quite regular if the weather is nice. Food is now fairly expensive too, if there is much left as they sell out. Average cost for me and the Mrs to do a round on a Saturday with a hot drink and a sandwich before or after is about £100.
Meanwhile my full bore club is the same annual cost but no range fees. Comp fees are literally about £2 for a days shooting on a Sat or Sun. Brew, 10p, biscuits etc a few pence. They have an honesty jar (most people are not that honest!). Ok no hot food so you have to take something with you but if you are reloading and are a full member the cost to shoot is at least 50% less if not even less than that.
I still shoot clays from time to time but just pay the non member fee as its not much different and then try and visit when its quiet. About half an hour before last entry is usually the best time.
Meanwhile my full bore club is the same annual cost but no range fees. Comp fees are literally about £2 for a days shooting on a Sat or Sun. Brew, 10p, biscuits etc a few pence. They have an honesty jar (most people are not that honest!). Ok no hot food so you have to take something with you but if you are reloading and are a full member the cost to shoot is at least 50% less if not even less than that.
I still shoot clays from time to time but just pay the non member fee as its not much different and then try and visit when its quiet. About half an hour before last entry is usually the best time.
tertius said:
Have to say I hate seeing semi-autos in the field (or anywhere really) due to the safety aspect.
Clearly remember a simulated game day someone having an issue with a semi and trying to clear some problem and the gun was waving around and from a distance (as I was) it was impossible to know it was safe.
Interesting what the insurance would have thought of that...Clearly remember a simulated game day someone having an issue with a semi and trying to clear some problem and the gun was waving around and from a distance (as I was) it was impossible to know it was safe.
Nearest I came to actually being shot was at Eppy range in cyprus, Fistac sporting, was having a brew with a couple of pongo competitors when "old Harry" wanders into view around 60 odd yards away, cue stampede back inside by those in the know....we suddenly joined them as old Harry used his prodigious concentration to point his ou right at the clubhouse, never thought a 12 bores black muzzles could look so big at that distance...oh we won the inter service as well
aeropilot said:
525 is a good clay gun, and yes after trying lots of others it was using a 525 that felt just right to me as well.
I enjoy sporting clays, good fun, but, it does help that 5 others in my rifle club shoot clays as well, all of us in the same clay club
One other that was very nice was a browning ultra xs prestige didn’t see price but it was used.I enjoy sporting clays, good fun, but, it does help that 5 others in my rifle club shoot clays as well, all of us in the same clay club
Didn’t want to ask the guy there about them as I’d have walked out with one.
red_slr said:
Anyone use an ultrasonic cleaner for their guns? If so what are you using to fill the bath? I have read online 80% purified water and 20% balistol is ok? Just spent an hour cleaning my .357 revolver thinking there must be an easier way!
I wouldn't use any water-based cleaning for anything other than black powder revolvers.What revolver is it?
Alfa Proj .357 MLR.
I have seen professional products for cleaning things like engine components which are meant to be safe for metals which seem to be water based.
I was thinking for occasional use, once or twice a year. i,e a full degrease and then lube and clean as normal for another 6 months.
I have seen professional products for cleaning things like engine components which are meant to be safe for metals which seem to be water based.
I was thinking for occasional use, once or twice a year. i,e a full degrease and then lube and clean as normal for another 6 months.
I have never owned BP or nitro revolvers, so I'm not making myself out to be the expert on that but my first CF handgun was a Stainless S&W 686 revolver and I've owned several other revolvers and pistols over the years and had to clean them...
I have to say I wouldn't dream of using any water-based cleaning products on them.
Although the main parts may be S/S and OK to clean using an Ultrasonic bath, IME it's not the best way and if there are any non S/S inserts, screws or other parts you could run the risk of corrosion. I do realise is standard practise to put BP guns in dishwashers as BP residue is water soluble, but there's a difference between dishwashers and ultrasonic cleaners and the types of solution used in them.
There are specific cleaning solvents and materials I'd recommend for 'normal' revolvers like lead-removing cloth/wool and specific powder residue solvents, but I'd still steer clear of anything water based myself.
I have to say I wouldn't dream of using any water-based cleaning products on them.
Although the main parts may be S/S and OK to clean using an Ultrasonic bath, IME it's not the best way and if there are any non S/S inserts, screws or other parts you could run the risk of corrosion. I do realise is standard practise to put BP guns in dishwashers as BP residue is water soluble, but there's a difference between dishwashers and ultrasonic cleaners and the types of solution used in them.
There are specific cleaning solvents and materials I'd recommend for 'normal' revolvers like lead-removing cloth/wool and specific powder residue solvents, but I'd still steer clear of anything water based myself.
I've got one for cleaning brass (now not used as I prefer wet tumbling) but I still wouldn't put any gun parts in it. I can't really see it would shift stubborn carbon residue, as it didn't with my brass and that's using a commercial ultrasonic bath and pretty aggressive degreaser in the water.
In the end, elbow grease and a good solvent is my preferred method but I'd be interested in hearing what you find.
In the end, elbow grease and a good solvent is my preferred method but I'd be interested in hearing what you find.
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