The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[PhilboSE]

aeropilot said:

but how are you still shooting anyway

Some clay venues & shoots don't need the original SGC. I'm currently going to those (with a photocopy of current licence). Places like Bisley are off limits for now.

aeropilot said:

rather where are you keeping the gun(s) as change of address implies another home visit to check security in new address prior to issue of changed SGC or is this only with FAC's.....?

At my new address...couldn't really leave them at the old one! I have complied with requirements in relocating the cabinet so I'm as legal as I can be.

red_slr said:

You should be keeping your SGC / FAC for a simple change of address.
The FEO should hand deliver your new one and take your old one back.

Licence explicitly required making a copy and sending off original for the change of address. Would be lovely if the process was as you experienced.

[aeropilot]

PhilboSE said:

aeropilot said:

rather where are you keeping the gun(s) as change of address implies another home visit to check security in new address prior to issue of changed SGC or is this only with FAC's.....?

At my new address...couldn't really leave them at the old one! I have complied with requirements in relocating the cabinet so I'm as legal as I can be.

A lot of forces expect gun(s) to be at a RFD during move process and then insist on new inspection of cabinet in new address (and general review of said address) before processing cert and allowing gun(s) to be retrieved from RFD........which is why 6 months wait is a ludicrous situation.

[W211]

red_slr said:

For that money it would need to be mint. Nice guns though, you don't see many for sale which tells you all you need to know.

I've got one (32" barrels). I wouldnt let it go for £1400 though! Its staying put...

They are very nice to shoot

[sidaorb]

After being away from the sport for over 20 years, and after lots of nagging by SWMBO to get back into shooting, I finally took the plunge in September, not wanting to go through all the hassle of licences etc I decided to look at airguns again.

Picked up a secondhand Weihrauch HW100 PCP which was a first for me having always owned 'springers' previously.

I'd forgotten how addictive this sport was and how easy it was to get tempted.

So far there has been a few additions to the stable.

From top to bottom.....

HW97K, HW100T, HW99S


Since then the 99 got a little bit of 'treatment'


Up until now they have all been .177 but back in the day my favourite air rifle was an HW80K in .20, so I was chuffed to bits to be able to get this just recently.

HW95k Venom tuned .20

[200Plus Club]

I will be out with my 35ft/lb Rapid 7 in the morning. Can't beat a good air rifle day.

[Turn7]

200Plus Club said:

I will be out with my 35ft/lb Rapid 7 in the morning. Can't beat a good air rifle day.

I had a 30ft Rapid, lovely gun.Really nice trigger and super accurate.

Sidorb, nice collection! Grab yourself a TX200 as well, one of my favourite springers.

[sidaorb]

Turn7 said:

Sidorb, nice collection! Grab yourself a TX200 as well, one of my favourite springers.

Thanks.

There is an issue for me with the TX200, back in the 80s I was a RFD, the AirArms back then we're atrocious (think cheap and nasty) haven't in my own head managed to shift that mindset, as you can see I'm a bit of a HW fan.

I know they have moved on and now have a great rep, once the HW collection is complete I may look at one

[200Plus Club]

sidaorb said:

Thanks.

There is an issue for me with the TX200, back in the 80s I was a RFD, the AirArms back then we're atrocious (think cheap and nasty) haven't in my own head managed to shift that mindset, as you can see I'm a bit of a HW fan.

I know they have moved on and now have a great rep, once the HW collection is complete I may look at one

I had a tx200 that was tuned nicely and very smooth and it was just as good as my hw100 albeit not as boring, you did have to shoot it well.

13 squirrels this morning to the big boy Rapid 7, what an accurate gun that is.

[red_slr]

Sometimes this sport kicks my @rse!!

Comp today, follow the 5p's as usual.
Weds night spent 2 hours zeroing and testing loads at a local range.
Thursday night got all my soft gear sorted and packed.
Friday night full strip down and clean, dry fired and spick and span.

Up at 6am, out the door for 7 out for the comp. -2c on the range, finally on the firing line about 10am and go to load my first round and snap.... loading gate spring goes. Probably about 8 hours work for 10 seconds of fail.

FFS!!

[Turn7]

200Plus Club said:

sidaorb said:

Thanks.

There is an issue for me with the TX200, back in the 80s I was a RFD, the AirArms back then we're atrocious (think cheap and nasty) haven't in my own head managed to shift that mindset, as you can see I'm a bit of a HW fan.

I know they have moved on and now have a great rep, once the HW collection is complete I may look at one

I had a tx200 that was tuned nicely and very smooth and it was just as good as my hw100 albeit not as boring, you did have to shoot it well.

13 squirrels this morning to the big boy Rapid 7, what an accurate gun that is.

Rapids are superb, a shame greed killed the company (from what I know about them), they should have owned the PCP Rifle market.

[andyb28]

Yesterday, I went pigeon shooting with my Beretta SP1. First time I have done this and it involved hanging about in the woods from 3pm until dark.
This gun seems a bit heavy to carry around for a few hours. Is that normal, or am I being a big girl?

Are there better suited guns to this type of shooting?

[red_slr]

If you are on your own or just rough shooting then slings are sometimes a good idea.

If its more of an arranged thing where slings are not used (some don't like for safety reasons) then my only advice is to use a boot rest (little bit of leather that goes over your laces) or throw the broken gun over your shoulder then change shoulders.

When I used to shoot a lot of ESP comps I would do some basic weight training for 10-15 mins per evening.
21s, shoulder raises, chest raises,Repeat 3 or 4 times.

I used to do a few sit ups and back excercises too. I would try and keep a lot of strength in my non dominant arm too as that can be the weak point. It makes a big difference.

One of the key things is to warm up too before you go shooting, if shooting for long periods then do some basic arm and chest warming up every half an hour to hour. Stretching the muscles out will help a lot. The shooting I do now involves a lot of standing around and if I forget to warm up it really can make a difference the next day!

[andyb28]

red_slr said:

If you are on your own or just rough shooting then slings are sometimes a good idea.

If its more of an arranged thing where slings are not used (some don't like for safety reasons) then my only advice is to use a boot rest (little bit of leather that goes over your laces) or throw the broken gun over your shoulder then change shoulders.

When I used to shoot a lot of ESP comps I would do some basic weight training for 10-15 mins per evening.
21s, shoulder raises, chest raises,Repeat 3 or 4 times.

I used to do a few sit ups and back excercises too. I would try and keep a lot of strength in my non dominant arm too as that can be the weak point. It makes a big difference.

One of the key things is to warm up too before you go shooting, if shooting for long periods then do some basic arm and chest warming up every half an hour to hour. Stretching the muscles out will help a lot. The shooting I do now involves a lot of standing around and if I forget to warm up it really can make a difference the next day!

Many thanks red_slr, some fantastic tips there which I will use

[Pesty]

Second time out with the Barretta,

Much better. Probably just under 50% hits still can’t get to grips with those high towers

I just have no idea how much lead to give . If I ever hit one I’ll probably be ok. One guy told me 15 feet lead one told me 7 feet

Hmm

One day I’ll hit one, I need tracers or something

[un1corn]

I'be got a couple of questions about clay shooting;

I've used target rifles in the past, so am averse to using and handling weapons, so im not a complete newbie. However, the2-3 hour drive to long ranges and hassle for a Sec1 puts me off.

There's 2 or 3 clay places within 10 minutes drive, and i've never used shottys before.

1 - Can you go clay shooting on your own? I dont know anyone who shoots or would be interested in it. Im not into being super competitive, just want to go once a week or two (more in the summer) and spend an hour shooting. Do clay traps facilitate solo shooting? So turn up, pay for a set number of clays, and spend an hour or so on your own? Or does it not work like that?

2 - Would the local constabulary be happy with a gun cabinet just bolted to a floor? ive got a new build with every wall plasterboard. The floors are laminate with the thick 2 inch wooden boards under that laying on top of the floor joists. It'd be in a cupboard under the stairs and out of sight. Would this likely get approved?

Thanks all

[andyb28]

un1corn said:

I'be got a couple of questions about clay shooting;

I've used target rifles in the past, so am averse to using and handling weapons, so im not a complete newbie. However, the2-3 hour drive to long ranges and hassle for a Sec1 puts me off.

There's 2 or 3 clay places within 10 minutes drive, and i've never used shottys before.

1 - Can you go clay shooting on your own? I dont know anyone who shoots or would be interested in it. Im not into being super competitive, just want to go once a week or two (more in the summer) and spend an hour shooting. Do clay traps facilitate solo shooting? So turn up, pay for a set number of clays, and spend an hour or so on your own? Or does it not work like that?

2 - Would the local constabulary be happy with a gun cabinet just bolted to a floor? ive got a new build with every wall plasterboard. The floors are laminate with the thick 2 inch wooden boards under that laying on top of the floor joists. It'd be in a cupboard under the stairs and out of sight. Would this likely get approved?

Thanks all

My local clay club has an option on the controls for solo. I delays the release of the clay. So to answer your question, yes you should be able to do it on your own fine. Maybe it's also an opportunity to meet some other people more locally that are into shotguns.

On your second question, I guess it somewhat depends on the firearms officer. The one that visited me was fantastic and very helpful. My house is an old timber framed property with very few solid walls. One option he gave was lying the cabinet down. In the end, we did find a place for it to be upright, however because it was in view of my back window, we had to build a wooden cupboard around it.

[phib]

andyb28 said:

Yesterday, I went pigeon shooting with my Beretta SP1. First time I have done this and it involved hanging about in the woods from 3pm until dark.
This gun seems a bit heavy to carry around for a few hours. Is that normal, or am I being a big girl?

Are there better suited guns to this type of shooting?

I have a pair of 20g beretta sp’s and a pair of beretta 20g 486’s much much lighter than a 12g.

Think the 486’s are about 6.5 each.

They are a girls gun though ...... before anyone says it !!

Phib

[Timbuktu]

phib said:

andyb28 said:

Yesterday, I went pigeon shooting with my Beretta SP1. First time I have done this and it involved hanging about in the woods from 3pm until dark.
This gun seems a bit heavy to carry around for a few hours. Is that normal, or am I being a big girl?

Are there better suited guns to this type of shooting?

I have a pair of 20g beretta sp’s and a pair of beretta 20g 486’s much much lighter than a 12g.

The 20Gs may feel much lighter but in reality it's only the difference of about a can of Coke!

I've got a sling on one of my guns and it makes it much better to carry or stand with although mounting it obviously takes that little bit longer.

[The Moose]

SlimRick said:

I've recently bought into a clay syndicate, I now own a 1/7th share of 9 clay traps and a storage container. We all pay a fiver a week to rent the field, and 100 clays each costs another fiver. It's suddenly got much cheaper to go shooting (man maths excludes the cost of buying into the syndicate).

Do you mind if I ask what buying in cost? What part of the country?

[Saddle bum]

Timbuktu said:

phib said:

andyb28 said:

Yesterday, I went pigeon shooting with my Beretta SP1. First time I have done this and it involved hanging about in the woods from 3pm until dark.
This gun seems a bit heavy to carry around for a few hours. Is that normal, or am I being a big girl?

Are there better suited guns to this type of shooting?

I have a pair of 20g beretta sp’s and a pair of beretta 20g 486’s much much lighter than a 12g.

The 20Gs may feel much lighter but in reality it's only the difference of about a can of Coke!

I've got a sling on one of my guns and it makes it much better to carry or stand with although mounting it obviously takes that little bit longer.

I have a liking for 30in barrels, which does create a weight penalty when compared to 28in. If I was sitting waiting for pigeons, a would be comfortable with my 12bore Beretta, but when walking I would want a 28in 20bore. But, I am in the Old Git category.