The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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Hi All. I have bought two slots at next Saturday's Goodwood Road Racing Club clay shoot. Unfortunately, I now can't go as I need to be away on business.
50 clays each plus lunch at the kennels. It was £330 for two.
If anyone's interested in taking it off my hands, PM me and make me an offer
50 clays each plus lunch at the kennels. It was £330 for two.
If anyone's interested in taking it off my hands, PM me and make me an offer
Turn7 said:
200Plus Club said:
Turn7 said:
Get a rifle ! lol
Suppressed rifle will take more bunnies per hour than any shottie....
Hmr @ 136 yards is my best. A fairly brutal round on rabbits!Suppressed rifle will take more bunnies per hour than any shottie....
aeropilot said:
Turn7 said:
200Plus Club said:
Turn7 said:
Get a rifle ! lol
Suppressed rifle will take more bunnies per hour than any shottie....
Hmr @ 136 yards is my best. A fairly brutal round on rabbits!Suppressed rifle will take more bunnies per hour than any shottie....
Has one done this and would recommend it?
http://www.wmsfirearmstraining.com/new-shooters-sn...
I used to shoot an air rifle when I was a lad and have always wanted to have a go shooting a real gun.
Any other options if that one is no good?
http://www.wmsfirearmstraining.com/new-shooters-sn...
I used to shoot an air rifle when I was a lad and have always wanted to have a go shooting a real gun.
Any other options if that one is no good?
If you just want to have a bit of a plink have a look a the mini rifle range in Barnsley. Its only (mostly) .22LR but indoors with reactive targets and a good bit cheaper. https://www.phoenixrange.co.uk/try-shooting
I think they charge about £35 for an hour.
At 800 the weather is going to play a big part and some new people don't enjoy .308.
The other thing you could do is join your local indoor range - some small bore clubs might only charge £80-£100 for a year. You don't have to have a FAC if the club has club guns (some do some don't so if you pick one that does you will be able to use a club gun)
Cool thanks, will check those out.
Its my 40th next year and I was looking for something to do. My wife had a big party for hers but I'm anti social and have no friends so thought I would do something on my tod. Quite like the sniper idea. Pretend to be Chris Kyle for the day, Walt-tastic.
Its my 40th next year and I was looking for something to do. My wife had a big party for hers but I'm anti social and have no friends so thought I would do something on my tod. Quite like the sniper idea. Pretend to be Chris Kyle for the day, Walt-tastic.
This is going to be one of those 'Cool story Bro' type rants, but here it is...
My last visit from the firearms licensing chap 5 years ago was a very pleasant affair. He was a very well known man locally, liked by all the shooters. He was polite, friendly, and helpful. My previous licensing visit at my house was more like a brief friendly chat. He would even visit in the evenings and at weekends if it was more convenient for people.
There is now a new firearms officer, and he visited my house 3 weeks ago when I renewed my certificate.
What a f
king arrogant, unhelpful, jobsworth .
He rang me one morning at work, and told me he was coming 'that afternoon'. I told him I couldn't make it as I was at work, which he didn't seem to find very convenient. He then barked at me that he would be at my house at 11am on Thursday, and I told him that was fine, and I would come home from work to meet him.
On the arranged morning, I drove home from work and got home at 10:49, and found him sitting in his car outside my house. The first thing he uttered was something about 'Being kept waiting'.
Once inside, he never introduced himself or told me his name, was impatient, asked me absolutely loads of questions and then tried to pick holes in what I was saying whenever I gave him the answers.
As an example, he asked me who my doctor was and when I last saw him. I told him which GP surgery I was registered at, and said I didn't know who my current GP was I hadn't been to the doctors for years and years, and my original GP was retired.
He then seized upon this and said "So you don't have a doctor then? How are we going to get information on your medical history?" so I just had to bite my tongue, and reiterate that I DID have a GP surgery that I was registered to, and he should simply write to the surgery.
He asked lots of questions about my wife, lots of questions about my family, far more than the other guy.
He then inspected my gun cabinet, and told me in his opinion it was only a 3 gun cabinet, and not a 5 gun cabinet like the last firearms officer had classed it as. I tried to protest this, but he said "It's 3 gun and thats the end of the matter". He then tried to argue that it didn't look sufficiently bolted down and started asking if the house was timber framed and all that kind of thing. Started swinging off it trying to find some movement.
He then asked to check all the shotguns I owned and their serial numbers. This is where the real fun began.
He examined my 2 Beretta's and deemed them 'fine', but when he came to my older Browning, he claimed the serial number didn't match what he had in his records.
The serial number area was ever so slightly tarnished.
He said that there was a '3' on the gun serial number and it said '5' on his records. Bizarrely, he seemed really pleased about this. He asked me to have a look at it, and I said I was fairly sure it was a 5 as per the paperwork. He looked again and categorically stated that it was a '3' then started making a massive fuss about this being a big problem, and went off on a rant about having to confiscate the shotgun as it was technically unlicensed.
I asked him to wait 30 seconds while I went upstairs for an illuminated jewellers loupe which I keep for reading serial numbers on watches that I occasionally buy and sell. I asked him to look again at the numbers using the loupe, and after what seemed like a long period of silence, he went a little red in the face, and said it was indeed a '5'.
He then told me I was 'lucky' and that he would have 'sworn blind' that the gun had a different digit on it.
He then wrote me out a temporary certificate as he said they had a 4 week backlog of licensing, and marched out of my house.
Clearly, he was one of those police officers who don't think anyone should own any kind of firearm whatsoever, and he was clearly looking for something, anything.
I felt like telling him that if his job involves reading tiny serial numbers all day, they maybe he should carry a fking loupe/magnifying glass with him. But thats the Police all over isn't it? Never think about things like that. Thick as mince and arrogant with it.
aholes.
My last visit from the firearms licensing chap 5 years ago was a very pleasant affair. He was a very well known man locally, liked by all the shooters. He was polite, friendly, and helpful. My previous licensing visit at my house was more like a brief friendly chat. He would even visit in the evenings and at weekends if it was more convenient for people.
There is now a new firearms officer, and he visited my house 3 weeks ago when I renewed my certificate.
What a f
king arrogant, unhelpful, jobsworth .He rang me one morning at work, and told me he was coming 'that afternoon'. I told him I couldn't make it as I was at work, which he didn't seem to find very convenient. He then barked at me that he would be at my house at 11am on Thursday, and I told him that was fine, and I would come home from work to meet him.
On the arranged morning, I drove home from work and got home at 10:49, and found him sitting in his car outside my house. The first thing he uttered was something about 'Being kept waiting'.
Once inside, he never introduced himself or told me his name, was impatient, asked me absolutely loads of questions and then tried to pick holes in what I was saying whenever I gave him the answers.
As an example, he asked me who my doctor was and when I last saw him. I told him which GP surgery I was registered at, and said I didn't know who my current GP was I hadn't been to the doctors for years and years, and my original GP was retired.
He then seized upon this and said "So you don't have a doctor then? How are we going to get information on your medical history?" so I just had to bite my tongue, and reiterate that I DID have a GP surgery that I was registered to, and he should simply write to the surgery.
He asked lots of questions about my wife, lots of questions about my family, far more than the other guy.
He then inspected my gun cabinet, and told me in his opinion it was only a 3 gun cabinet, and not a 5 gun cabinet like the last firearms officer had classed it as. I tried to protest this, but he said "It's 3 gun and thats the end of the matter". He then tried to argue that it didn't look sufficiently bolted down and started asking if the house was timber framed and all that kind of thing. Started swinging off it trying to find some movement.
He then asked to check all the shotguns I owned and their serial numbers. This is where the real fun began.
He examined my 2 Beretta's and deemed them 'fine', but when he came to my older Browning, he claimed the serial number didn't match what he had in his records.
The serial number area was ever so slightly tarnished.
He said that there was a '3' on the gun serial number and it said '5' on his records. Bizarrely, he seemed really pleased about this. He asked me to have a look at it, and I said I was fairly sure it was a 5 as per the paperwork. He looked again and categorically stated that it was a '3' then started making a massive fuss about this being a big problem, and went off on a rant about having to confiscate the shotgun as it was technically unlicensed.
I asked him to wait 30 seconds while I went upstairs for an illuminated jewellers loupe which I keep for reading serial numbers on watches that I occasionally buy and sell. I asked him to look again at the numbers using the loupe, and after what seemed like a long period of silence, he went a little red in the face, and said it was indeed a '5'.
He then told me I was 'lucky' and that he would have 'sworn blind' that the gun had a different digit on it.
He then wrote me out a temporary certificate as he said they had a 4 week backlog of licensing, and marched out of my house.
Clearly, he was one of those police officers who don't think anyone should own any kind of firearm whatsoever, and he was clearly looking for something, anything.
I felt like telling him that if his job involves reading tiny serial numbers all day, they maybe he should carry a f
king loupe/magnifying glass with him. But thats the Police all over isn't it? Never think about things like that. Thick as mince and arrogant with it.a
holes.Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 11th February 21:17
Lord Marylebone said:
Clearly, he was one of those police officers who don't think anyone should own any kind of firearm whatsoever, and he was clearly looking for something, anything.
I felt like telling him that if his job involves reading tiny serial numbers all day, they maybe he should carry a fking loupe/magnifying glass with him. But thats the Police all over isn't it? Never think about things like that. Thick as mince and arrogant with it.
How do you know he was a Police Officer?I felt like telling him that if his job involves reading tiny serial numbers all day, they maybe he should carry a f
king loupe/magnifying glass with him. But thats the Police all over isn't it? Never think about things like that. Thick as mince and arrogant with it.Many FLO's are civilian staff, but that's the public all over isn't it, never think about things like that, thick as mince and arrogant with it......
aeropilot said:
How do you know he was a Police Officer?
Many FLO's are civilian staff, but that's the public all over isn't it, never think about things like that, thick as mince and arrogant with it......
Sorry, my mistake.Many FLO's are civilian staff, but that's the public all over isn't it, never think about things like that, thick as mince and arrogant with it......
I will rephrase how I refer to him:
‘Firearms Enquiry officer’.
Either way, an employee of the Police.
What criteria do they have for visiting at renewal etc?
I had a visit when I moved to the county - very quick and informal - and nothing since, two renewals and one house move (new house, same town) later.
I expect they might have a risk register with some higher priority individuals, but is there also a random check element to it?
I had a visit when I moved to the county - very quick and informal - and nothing since, two renewals and one house move (new house, same town) later.
I expect they might have a risk register with some higher priority individuals, but is there also a random check element to it?
The reason most FEOs are nice as pie is because its a cushty job. They have retired from the job and walked back into another £25k job on top of their police pension. Most of them will just potter about and tick the boxes. They might say its a stressful job but its all BS they much prefer a nice office and drinking tea all day to dealing with domestics and sudden deaths at 3am on a Tuesday in December.
This guy sounds like a plank and a liability. I would be having a word on the QT with PSD..
This guy sounds like a plank and a liability. I would be having a word on the QT with PSD..
I had an interesting conversation with our ex FEO recently who was a top bloke and I have been dealing with him for 13 years( until his final retirement ) or so as FAC/SGC/RFD. he loved the job - he had been a copper for just over 30 years and retired to land a part time FEO job. He said it made such a change to deal with honest,polite, law abiding people over a cup or tea and a bit of cakes in comparison to 30 years of dealing with crooks, scum and all the other dross that goes with it.
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