The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[jimmyjimjim]

Ouch.

Better here: https://www.luckygunner.com/rifle/50-cal-ammo

[Pesty]

Match rounds are expensive though

$58 for 10
Probably plus shipping and tax.

https://www.luckygunner.com/50-cal-bmg-750-gr-amax...


£60 here for 20 of those bullet heads

Note to self don’t buy one of them.

https://www.blackrifle.co.uk/Hornady-50-Cal-510-75...

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 17th November 02:46

[red_slr]

I believe the saying is a lot of bang for your buck

[chemistry]

My daughter is getting on well with her 691 and improving week by week. SGC applied for.

[Disastrous]

Apologies if this is a daft question but my wife has booked us a night at Gleneagles as a birthday treat. I’m going to take my own shotgun with me and take a lesson plus a round or two of sporting clays but it just occurred that I have never ‘overnighted’ with a gun before!

What’s the etiquette?

I know they have a gun room so storage is fine, but would you typically hand it over broken down in it’s hard case, or assembled in a slip?? Cartridges too? If the slip, would you then leave the case in the car? Or am I over complicating it and you just hand over the whole lot?

Will they have cleaning equipment for afters, or would one typically wait until getting home (the next day)?

[NDA]

Disastrous said:

Apologies if this is a daft question but my wife has booked us a night at Gleneagles as a birthday treat. I’m going to take my own shotgun with me and take a lesson plus a round or two of sporting clays but it just occurred that I have never ‘overnighted’ with a gun before!

What’s the etiquette?

I know they have a gun room so storage is fine, but would you typically hand it over broken down in it’s hard case, or assembled in a slip?? Cartridges too? If the slip, would you then leave the case in the car? Or am I over complicating it and you just hand over the whole lot?

Will they have cleaning equipment for afters, or would one typically wait until getting home (the next day)?

I overnight regularly with my gun.

Give the assembled gun in a slip to reception at check-in - I would almost guarantee that they have a gun safe.

Cartridges will be fine in your locked boot.

I would take a bore snake with you and an aerosol of oil or cleaner.... whip it through before returning home. Some shoots will clean your gun, most don't.

[red_slr]

Wang a trigger lock on it, hand it over, job jobbed.

[Disastrous]

Thanks guys.

Don’t have a trigger lock or a bore snake but doesn’t sound like it will be a massive issue-they definitely have a gun safe and it’s only overnight so I can clean it when I’m home I guess.

My main worry was that it was a bit off to pile into reception and sling a gun at the girl but I suspect they’ll be relatively used to it

[aeropilot]

Disastrous said:

My main worry was that it was a bit off to pile into reception and sling a gun at the girl but I suspect they’ll be relatively used to it

I wouldn't be handing a shotgun to anyone on reception......!

I would be telling them that you have brought your own gun and need to place into their safe. I wouldn't handing a shotgun over to anyone who I hadn't seen their licence first.

[Disastrous]

aeropilot said:

Disastrous said:

My main worry was that it was a bit off to pile into reception and sling a gun at the girl but I suspect they’ll be relatively used to it

I wouldn't be handing a shotgun to anyone on reception......!

I would be telling them that you have brought your own gun and need to place into their safe. I wouldn't handing a shotgun over to anyone who I hadn't seen their licence first.

Would receptionists have a licence? They wouldn’t need one to handle it, would they??

[z4RRSchris]

Disastrous said:

Would receptionists have a licence? They wouldn’t need one to handle it, would they??

yes they would, you shouldnt hand over your gun to anyone who isnt legally allowed to handle it, or is in the supervision of someone who is.

[Disastrous]

z4RRSchris said:

Disastrous said:

Would receptionists have a licence? They wouldn’t need one to handle it, would they??

yes they would, you shouldnt hand over your gun to anyone who isnt legally allowed to handle it, or is in the supervision of someone who is.

I’d have thought a hotel offering shooting would have counted as that but perhaps not.

I guess I’ll give them a phone and see what they usually do.

[red_slr]

z4RRSchris said:

Disastrous said:

Would receptionists have a licence? They wouldn’t need one to handle it, would they??

yes they would, you shouldnt hand over your gun to anyone who isnt legally allowed to handle it, or is in the supervision of someone who is.

Just to be clear we are talking about estates here, these venues generally have an armoury and a full time armourer who manages everything. They have all the correct security and procedures in place. Would I turn up to a Travel Lodge and hand my shotgun to Kevin behind reception, no way. But would I turn up to an estate and be escorted to the armoury to deposit my shotgun and be happy to hand it over - yep no problem (as I have done many times). If worst comes to the worst and I did not like the look of things I would break the shotgun down and take one or the other end with me at which point it ceases to become a problem. IME what happens is you are shown to the armoury, you pick a locker, put your gun in there and lock it and then take the key with you. Its about as secure as you could get.

This is what the National Firearms Guidance says

19.51. Considerations when firearms are being taken to venues involving overnight or longer accommodation include:
a) Obtaining accommodation which provides secure facilities (some hotels offer this service) but the certificate holder (whose responsibility it is) should satisfy himself that no unauthorised person has access to the security, for example by having spare keys to a cabinet;
b) Separating and retaining possession of integral parts of the firearm to prevent it being used; or
c) Using portable security devices, such as security cords.

[aeropilot]

red_slr said:

z4RRSchris said:

Disastrous said:

Would receptionists have a licence? They wouldn’t need one to handle it, would they??

yes they would, you shouldnt hand over your gun to anyone who isnt legally allowed to handle it, or is in the supervision of someone who is.

Just to be clear we are talking about estates here, these venues generally have an armoury and a full time armourer who manages everything. They have all the correct security and procedures in place. Would I turn up to a Travel Lodge and hand my shotgun to Kevin behind reception, no way. But would I turn up to an estate and be escorted to the armoury to deposit my shotgun and be happy to hand it over - yep no problem (as I have done many times).

Exactly.

But equally you wouldn't turn up to the estate and hand it over to the person on hotel reception and then just walk off to your room either.

[red_slr]

Exactly this is Gleneagles and they are kinda known for their firearms... its probably more secure than most police firearms units given the value of some of the guns they deal with and some of the guests they have too...

[Disastrous]

I feel like maybe I’ve made this more complex than it needs to be?

As slr says, it’s Gleneagles and they’re expecting me there for shooting and know I’ll be bringing a gun with me.

I’m expecting that when I turn up I would leave it in the boot whilst I check in, inform them I have it with me and ask what they’d have me do with it. I’m not intending to follow them to the gun room and demand to see their licence...seems a bit odd as they’re about the most famous shooting school in Scotland?!

[Ledaig]

Disastrous said:

..... Cartridges too? .....

I can't offer any advise regarding the storage or handover of the shotgun. Regarding the cartridges however, whilst I don't know what you shoot (or will take), are Gleneagles happy with fibre or plastic wads?

[Disastrous]

Ledaig said:

Disastrous said:

..... Cartridges too? .....

I can't offer any advise regarding the storage or handover of the shotgun. Regarding the cartridges however, whilst I don't know what you shoot (or will take), are Gleneagles happy with fibre or plastic wads?

I shoot fibre anyway so presumably that will be fine - they didn’t mention either way. I’m not fussy about cartridges though, so if they have a preference I’m happy to use theirs...good point though, it hadn’t crossed my mind!

[MKnight702]

Up early as I have a day long range shooting at Bisley. Out to 1000 metres, I know it’s not ultra long but my rifle is over 100 years old in parts, Winchester P14 converted to heavy barrel target rifle.

Woo boo, anyway, got to go!

[aeropilot]

MKnight702 said:

Up early as I have a day long range shooting at Bisley. Out to 1000 metres, I know it’s not ultra long but my rifle is over 100 years old in parts, Winchester P14 converted to heavy barrel target rifle.

Excellent.
Identical to our club rifle, and its bloody accurate even out to 1000