The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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MKnight702 said:
Up early as I have a day long range shooting at Bisley. Out to 1000 metres, I know it’s not ultra long but my rifle is over 100 years old in parts, Winchester P14 converted to heavy barrel target rifle.
Woo boo, anyway, got to go!
Do the shooters on the 1000yd firing point mind you shooting at 1000m? Woo boo, anyway, got to go!
FurtiveFreddy said:
MKnight702 said:
Up early as I have a day long range shooting at Bisley. Out to 1000 metres, I know it’s not ultra long but my rifle is over 100 years old in parts, Winchester P14 converted to heavy barrel target rifle.
Woo boo, anyway, got to go!
Do the shooters on the 1000yd firing point mind you shooting at 1000m? Woo boo, anyway, got to go!
Unfortunately the electronic targets on the 1000 yard range were down so we had to shoot at 600 yards. Not quite so much fun, but at least they had put up a tent on the firing point as the weather was horrible.
MKnight702 said:
Yards, meters close enough!
Unfortunately the electronic targets on the 1000 yard range were down so we had to shoot at 600 yards. Not quite so much fun, but at least they had put up a tent on the firing point as the weather was horrible.
I know, I'm still drying everything off! At least there wasn't much wind today. Last Saturday there was literally zero wind on Stickledown. Haven't seen it like that for a while.Unfortunately the electronic targets on the 1000 yard range were down so we had to shoot at 600 yards. Not quite so much fun, but at least they had put up a tent on the firing point as the weather was horrible.
Disastrous said:
I feel like maybe I’ve made this more complex than it needs to be?
As slr says, it’s Gleneagles and they’re expecting me there for shooting and know I’ll be bringing a gun with me.
I’m expecting that when I turn up I would leave it in the boot whilst I check in, inform them I have it with me and ask what they’d have me do with it. I’m not intending to follow them to the gun room and demand to see their licence...seems a bit odd as they’re about the most famous shooting school in Scotland?!
I sashayed into reception with it in a slip over my shoulder, approached the concierge and said “just checking in but have my own gun with me”. He treated it like the most normal thing in the world and walked me down to the gun safe. Let me locate it in the cabinet and then double locked it, gave me one key and put the other in a safe, got me to counter sign a bit of paper and I was on my way. Really no bother at all and they obviously deal with this regularly and are good at making guests feel comfortable about it.
Went clay pigeon shooting yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it!
Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
dalzo said:
Went clay pigeon shooting yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it!
Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
Like any hobby it can be as expensive as you want to make it. You can spend £100 or £100,000 on a shotgun, and a day on the clays will cost anything from the cost of the clays and cartridges up to hundreds of pounds and a nice shooting ground.Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
The SGC application is relatively painless as long as you aren't a wrong'un. You will need a character reference, and a gun cabinet (about £100). Application times vary but generally the more rural your constabulary the faster and smoother the process (Northumbria much quicker than Greater Manchester for example). Waiting times here.
Join BASC (or the CPSA). It is cheap, offers good benefits (big discounts on new cars!) and £10,000,000 shooting insurance should the worst happen.
Don't spend a fortune on a first gun. A decent second-hand over/under shotgun will do you for most things and cost well under a grand. Try to get it fitted properly i.e. buy from a dealer who know what they are doing, not privately. Some will have their own clay grounds to 'try before you buy' and there are a surprising amount of adjustments which can be made which will effect your accuracy and comfort.
Add in ear and eye protection, a cleaning kit and a cartridge bag and you are good to go.
dalzo said:
Went clay pigeon shooting yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it!
Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
I’d ask the people where you went for advice Going to book it again and possibly turn it into a more regular hobby.
Is it an expensive sport to get started in?
Is there a long complicated process to getting a license and first gun?
Does anyone know if there is a lot of shooting schools in Glasgow or the Scottish central belt(I’m in Cumbernauld)
Shooting is an expensive hobby. As above you can get into it cheap.
250 cartridges can go as low as around £55 clays are around 30p each where I go ( and miss)
Don’t think I’ve even been and spent less that £30 in clays plus whatever that works out in cartridges plus fuel food, drink etc.
A day out clay shooting for me gets expensive
Can I take this clay shooting?
Going to start using this for PSG done a few informal comps with it. Going to mix it with the other section 1s for the postal league etc
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
Going to start using this for PSG done a few informal comps with it. Going to mix it with the other section 1s for the postal league etc
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
Edited by Pesty on Monday 25th November 09:18
Pesty said:
Can I take this clay shooting?
Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
Without posting a massive reply the basic answer is generally no.Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
The main 2 reasons are your FAC will probably have the s.1 shotgun use as "practical shotgun" (or maybe not!)
But then second and main reason is there are very few clay grounds that are approved for s.1 firearms. Almost all are s.2 only.
Note I do say almost. So whilst its possible, its certainly not common.
Also, is it yours?
I wasn’t being serious, but my licence does state I can use them for clays.
I have a nice over under I can miss just as easily with.
Yes that’s mine.
I was practicing reloading and shooting ready for the next PSG comp.
Ps all those were aimed and hit the steel. I can’t hit moving stuff for s
t but I’m pretty good at hitting stationary stuff fast 
I have a nice over under I can miss just as easily with.
Yes that’s mine.
I was practicing reloading and shooting ready for the next PSG comp.
Ps all those were aimed and hit the steel. I can’t hit moving stuff for s
t but I’m pretty good at hitting stationary stuff fast Edited by Pesty on Monday 25th November 08:47
red_slr said:
Pesty said:
Can I take this clay shooting?
Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
Without posting a massive reply the basic answer is generally no.Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
The main 2 reasons are your FAC will probably have the s.1 shotgun use as "practical shotgun" (or maybe not!)
But then second and main reason is there are very few clay grounds that are approved for s.1 firearms. Almost all are s.2 only.
Note I do say almost. So whilst its possible, its certainly not common.
Also, is it yours?
None of the 3 clay grounds I shoot at allow a S.1.
Even the private club I belong to, and which owns its own ground, one of the club officials often shoots a pump, but its a S.2 pump, not the S.1 pump that he also owns for PSG comps at his FAC club elsewhere.
Ahh I see, its Monday and I left my ACME tin o' humour at home at 6am...
I know my club occasionally shoot ESP clays and people use whatever they want but we are a full bore club with an area for clays / PSG. It would be somewhat amusing to turn up with a s.1 semi and send 5 no 7s at each pair...
I know my club occasionally shoot ESP clays and people use whatever they want but we are a full bore club with an area for clays / PSG. It would be somewhat amusing to turn up with a s.1 semi and send 5 no 7s at each pair...
aeropilot said:
red_slr said:
Pesty said:
Can I take this clay shooting?
Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
Without posting a massive reply the basic answer is generally no.Going to start using this for PSG
Pump actions are fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBtmyuqUco
The main 2 reasons are your FAC will probably have the s.1 shotgun use as "practical shotgun" (or maybe not!)
But then second and main reason is there are very few clay grounds that are approved for s.1 firearms. Almost all are s.2 only.
Note I do say almost. So whilst its possible, its certainly not common.
Also, is it yours?
None of the 3 clay grounds I shoot at allow a S.1.
Even the private club I belong to, and which owns its own ground, one of the club officials often shoots a pump, but its a S.2 pump, not the S.1 pump that he also owns for PSG comps at his FAC club elsewhere.
I wonder if the guys with a FAC can give me some guidance please.
I have had a SGC for years and would like to get back into range & hunting.
Background: Ex forces [not many years] and of stable mind [wibble].
Gun Experience: 9mm; .40; .45; .357 Pistol. Good for 7yds; 15yds; 20 yds. Armalite A15 Rifle. Good for most distances.
I have managed to secure a membership at a club, and will continue to practice. However I am just wondering what restrictions the FEO may put up. I was considering a 30-06 or .308; 20" or 26" barrel; this will be a range and hunting rifle. I intend to use the rifle both here and abroad for boar and deer [hence the calibre]. Will the FEO have an epi or will it be water off a duck's back?
Thanks in advance.
ETA: Is there anything more I should be conscious of? Ammo? etc
I have had a SGC for years and would like to get back into range & hunting.
Background: Ex forces [not many years] and of stable mind [wibble].
Gun Experience: 9mm; .40; .45; .357 Pistol. Good for 7yds; 15yds; 20 yds. Armalite A15 Rifle. Good for most distances.
I have managed to secure a membership at a club, and will continue to practice. However I am just wondering what restrictions the FEO may put up. I was considering a 30-06 or .308; 20" or 26" barrel; this will be a range and hunting rifle. I intend to use the rifle both here and abroad for boar and deer [hence the calibre]. Will the FEO have an epi or will it be water off a duck's back?
Thanks in advance.
ETA: Is there anything more I should be conscious of? Ammo? etc
Edited by carinatauk on Monday 25th November 09:49
They don’t care about Caliber ime. The reason and somewhere to use it is more important.
You’ve got the boxes ticked. Member of a club, I assume you’ve got a cabinet already for the shotguns.
As long as that clubs energy rating is above thurdy ought six you’ll be fine I should think
I have a 308,303 and 6,5 rifle.
Thinking of getting a 300WM
You’ve got the boxes ticked. Member of a club, I assume you’ve got a cabinet already for the shotguns.
As long as that clubs energy rating is above thurdy ought six you’ll be fine I should think
I have a 308,303 and 6,5 rifle.
Thinking of getting a 300WM
The only things you will need to ensure is:
You are a full member of a club that is permitted to shoot that type of firearm.
You have permission to shoot over land which is approved, or will have permission, for the hunting if in the UK. (or get an open ticket which is generally not the done thing on first grant).
Your shotgun cabinet has enough space for all the guns you intend to purchase plus what you already have. (this is down to FEO opinion my 6 gun cabinet fits 10 with some creative stacking)
You have a separate safe for ammunition. This may require you to get an extra safe as the top boxes in most shotgun cabinets are
not much use. Look at Brattonsound ammo safe. You can find a similar knock off item on ebay for about 120 quid eBay item number:121439056861
Ensure that the FEO confirms your FAC will be worded in such a way that permits you to own one rifle for two uses. This is common so should not be a problem but I have seen people have FACs granted but with the incorrect wording.
You are a full member of a club that is permitted to shoot that type of firearm.
You have permission to shoot over land which is approved, or will have permission, for the hunting if in the UK. (or get an open ticket which is generally not the done thing on first grant).
Your shotgun cabinet has enough space for all the guns you intend to purchase plus what you already have. (this is down to FEO opinion my 6 gun cabinet fits 10 with some creative stacking)
You have a separate safe for ammunition. This may require you to get an extra safe as the top boxes in most shotgun cabinets are
not much use. Look at Brattonsound ammo safe. You can find a similar knock off item on ebay for about 120 quid eBay item number:121439056861
Ensure that the FEO confirms your FAC will be worded in such a way that permits you to own one rifle for two uses. This is common so should not be a problem but I have seen people have FACs granted but with the incorrect wording.
Thanks
I have a shotgun cabinet but this full and shared, so I will get a new one for the rifles and ammo. How much ammo will they let you hold?
They rifle range is associated with Bisley so I have options regarding calibre, I hope, if not I will get two rifles. Will check back on the gun club as I don't recall what they said.
I will ensure that I have the appropriate wording for hunting attached, but it seems quite broad to all sorts of vermin / animals. Also make sure it's dual purpose.
I have a shotgun cabinet but this full and shared, so I will get a new one for the rifles and ammo. How much ammo will they let you hold?
They rifle range is associated with Bisley so I have options regarding calibre, I hope, if not I will get two rifles. Will check back on the gun club as I don't recall what they said.
I will ensure that I have the appropriate wording for hunting attached, but it seems quite broad to all sorts of vermin / animals. Also make sure it's dual purpose.
carinatauk said:
They rifle range is associated with Bisley so I have options regarding calibre, I hope, if not I will get two rifles. Will check back on the gun club as I don't recall what they said.
You'll be OK then with 30-06, you'll just need to buy different types of 30-06 ammo, the stuff for hunting and mil spec ball/target stuff for Bisley.Its only when you get into the HME classified ammo that its gets more of a faff shooting at Bisley, unless you club has HME qualified RO's.
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