The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
Discussion
KingNothing said:
She's OK with having them, just would rather they were out of the way, and not in any of the bedrooms where realistically they'd have to be
As I said, she needs to understand the situation....its not her choice 
KingNothing said:
Have an ideal spot in an upstairs cupboard which is just used for storage at the minute, but it's in the centre of the house so not against any substantial walls, just stud partition walls on all 3 sides of it. Will ask the FEO closer to the time.
That won't be acceptable.KingNothing said:
Worst comes to worse, I'll stick it in my games rooms (one of the bedrooms) and stick a wardrobe around it.
Sounds like your only option.But you will likely still have installation issue with approval if you don't address the dob n dab build behind the safe.
red_slr said:
Timbuktu said:
I scrape it off with a stanley knife blade sometimes when nothing else will shift it.
Its kind of "in there" where the threads are.... so not possible to get access with anything other than a long thing. IYSWIM.Will commence the bore shine soak tonight...
However the internal "choke" where the muzzle meets the start of the break is still clogged bad.
I cant really get in there to get any purchase on it. Put it back in the bore shine.
Will have another go in a few days see if that's taken the worst off it perhaps it will soak better now.
red_slr said:
What do you plan to shoot? What does your club allow?
Probably just .22 to start with, looking at maybe a 10-22 as I found that pretty comfortable to shoot, or a 15-22 as I'm used to the ergonomics of the AR platform a bit more. It's only a 20m indoor club, so they're restricted on what they can shoot I think, so primarily rimfire stuff, and lower powered and downloaded centre fire, I was shooting a .357 lever action downloaded to .38 special last night.They are partnered with another local club which is outdoors upto 600-1000 yards so I'm planning on joining that soon as well, probably after probationary period has ended, so will have cause to stick larger calibre stuff onto my FAC application eventually to avoid having to deal with variations a few years down the line.
Might be worth putting in for a couple of .22s then on initial grant to give you options.
Then if you want to get something else but have only used one of the .22s then you can do a 1 for 1 which takes much less time than a variation.
Don't know much about the 10-22 tbh. If you are going for an AR style then S&W 15-22 is about as reliable as you will get for the money. If budget allows then consider a CMMG from Lantac which will also be very reliable and accurate. Or even an Lantac Raven for maximum accuracy.
Then if you want to get something else but have only used one of the .22s then you can do a 1 for 1 which takes much less time than a variation.
Don't know much about the 10-22 tbh. If you are going for an AR style then S&W 15-22 is about as reliable as you will get for the money. If budget allows then consider a CMMG from Lantac which will also be very reliable and accurate. Or even an Lantac Raven for maximum accuracy.
Yeah, the S&W M&P 15-22 is looking to be the front runner at the minute, pretty reasonably priced, I know they're pretty much fully polymer which can either be an advantage in terms of weight saving, or a disadvantage depending on how you look at it, the Lantac looks good, full metal and only about £400 more. Also been looking at Guncraft who now do a .22 WMR AR-15, but that's about £600 more than the Lantac LA-SF15, plus need to consider the slightly more expensive ammunition over LR.
KingNothing said:
Yeah, the S&W M&P 15-22 is looking to be the front runner at the minute, pretty reasonably priced, I know they're pretty much fully polymer which can either be an advantage in terms of weight saving, or a disadvantage depending on how you look at it, the Lantac looks good, full metal and only about £400 more.
We don't shoot much .22 in our club, just a bit of fun plinking at end of a full-bore carbine/gallery club shoot, which is why I make do with a GSG Stg.44 One guy in the club has just bought a Lantac, and I have to say, after having a go with it, that's where my money would go if buying a 'serious' .22RF that would get a lot of use or comp use.
He did have to wait about 6 months for the Lantac though.
KingNothing said:
Yeah, I've still got months to decide before the application even goes in, and then however long it takes the FEO to process it, lol.
I was referring to the wait for the Lantac from time of ordering it to taking delivery of it....not the wait to get to the point of being able to order one 
A 10-22 is a good place to start, there are many, many upgrade options available to you (look on the Brownells website), just be aware that they can be very ammunition sensitive.
My first rifles were a 10-22 and a Mosin M38. At one point I put the Ruger up for sale because I was struggling to get any accuracy with it, as in I would have had trouble hitting a barn from the inside. One day another club member gave me a box of different ammo to the Winchester stuff I was using that I bought with the rifle and suddenly the rifle was capable of producing a respectable group rather than hitting the sand somewhere downrange.
My current favourite .22 is my BSA Model 12/15, this is a very capable target rifle, mine dates to the late 40s early 50s and it will hit whatever I can see with the diopter sights. An added benefit is that being single shot it is much cheaper to feed than a semi auto (not that .22LR is expensive!).
My first rifles were a 10-22 and a Mosin M38. At one point I put the Ruger up for sale because I was struggling to get any accuracy with it, as in I would have had trouble hitting a barn from the inside. One day another club member gave me a box of different ammo to the Winchester stuff I was using that I bought with the rifle and suddenly the rifle was capable of producing a respectable group rather than hitting the sand somewhere downrange.
My current favourite .22 is my BSA Model 12/15, this is a very capable target rifle, mine dates to the late 40s early 50s and it will hit whatever I can see with the diopter sights. An added benefit is that being single shot it is much cheaper to feed than a semi auto (not that .22LR is expensive!).
Yes if even considering Lantac then get an order in the works as it can be 2-3 months per shipment and sometimes shipments do fill up before the current one has even landed.
The Lantac Raven is a "proper" AR too so can take any AR accessories, guards, triggers, stocks, grips etc. Although the standard furniture is very good as standard as they use Magpul.
I think the only real "weakness" in the Lantac rifles is the CMMG bolt as it can break parts at total random, normally firing pins.
I do shoot a lot though (10k rnds a year) so that might have an impact but I have snapped main bolt spring, firing pin and firing pin spring in the past. I go through and replace everything on the bolt once a year but still normally get a breakage of something about half way through the year.
The Lantac Raven is a "proper" AR too so can take any AR accessories, guards, triggers, stocks, grips etc. Although the standard furniture is very good as standard as they use Magpul.
I think the only real "weakness" in the Lantac rifles is the CMMG bolt as it can break parts at total random, normally firing pins.
I do shoot a lot though (10k rnds a year) so that might have an impact but I have snapped main bolt spring, firing pin and firing pin spring in the past. I go through and replace everything on the bolt once a year but still normally get a breakage of something about half way through the year.
Which .22 rifle you choose depends on what you want to use it for.
You can make a 1022 into anything because there are so many options available for it.
Put a Volquartsen barrel on one and it's as accurate as you'll get in a semi auto .22.
The 15-22 is a light rifle to start with, so it's not a bad all rounder.
All .22s can be unreliable at times, it goes with the calibre, but you just try a few different brands of ammo to find the one that works best then make sure you keep the chamber clean at all times and maybe have it reamed so it's a bit more forgiving when it gets dirty.
You can make a 1022 into anything because there are so many options available for it.
Put a Volquartsen barrel on one and it's as accurate as you'll get in a semi auto .22.
The 15-22 is a light rifle to start with, so it's not a bad all rounder.
All .22s can be unreliable at times, it goes with the calibre, but you just try a few different brands of ammo to find the one that works best then make sure you keep the chamber clean at all times and maybe have it reamed so it's a bit more forgiving when it gets dirty.
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