The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Sunday 19th April 2020
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jimmyjimjim said:
They add expense and time. Which I think is probably a reasonable compromise.
As do I.

200Plus Club

10,752 posts

278 months

Sunday 19th April 2020
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https://youtu.be/OKq9hhCvhTQ

Interesting review of the Blaser system. Nicely made.

BertieWooster

3,278 posts

164 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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jimmyjimjim said:
I've a shopping list....
How big is the list? biggrin

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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BertieWooster said:
How big is the list? biggrin
Any such list I have ever gotten from abroad, no matter the subject, always has Marlboros on it. Even non smokers seem to use them as barter. Tobacco bit coin if you will. smile

jimmyjimjim

7,340 posts

238 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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BertieWooster said:
jimmyjimjim said:
I've a shopping list....
How big is the list? biggrin
Surprisingly little.

I wouldn't mind say, 3 more G17 pmags, and a couple of BX-25s for the 10/22, and that's about it. And right now most places are out, making it a moot point.

Oh, and 1,000 rounds of XM193 for a decent price.

If the lock down ends in a week, I'll wait until the LGS is open and see what they have.


Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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When I get a moment from work, I will post another pic or vid. Either one of my lever actions or a unique shotgun I have laying around.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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red_slr said:
What is that? Why doesn't it have the long barrel and the clothes hanger?

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Johnspex said:
red_slr said:
What is that? Why doesn't it have the long barrel and the clothes hanger?
Muzzle loading, black powder pistol.

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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It’s classed as a muzzle loading revolver. I use green dot powder and westlake wadcutters overall a fun gun to shoot but a bit of a pain to load not the end of the world though.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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red_slr said:
It’s classed as a muzzle loading revolver. I use green dot powder and westlake wadcutters overall a fun gun to shoot but a bit of a pain to load not the end of the world though.
Ah, I see. My BP is a Remington. But lying here in bed I can't remember the make or model number. BP, the most fun you can have with your trousers on.

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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I have 3d printed speed loaders for the powder so I can drop the powder in 2 seconds into all 6 chambers. Then press in a bullet by hand about 1/3 the way. Then spin the cylinder on the bench pressing in all 6 rounds, takes about 60 seconds. Then walk back to the table and pick up the frame, slide it on the yolk and then insert 6 primers another 60 seconds and pewpewpew.

So total re-load time is maybe 3-4 minutes if you take your time. If I had to rush to do it, maybe 2 mins. The gun does get quite dirty though and I normally only do 5 maybe 6 cycles in an evening and then it needs a proper clean.

I have a second cylinder on my ticket too as I was going to get a second cylinder but don't think I will bother now as its not that difficult to re-load and fairly expensive around £500 after RFD to RFD etc as the cylinder needs fitting to the frame. Will probably 141 that slot at some point for something else.


aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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red_slr said:
I have 3d printed speed loaders for the powder so I can drop the powder in 2 seconds into all 6 chambers. Then press in a bullet by hand about 1/3 the way. Then spin the cylinder on the bench pressing in all 6 rounds, takes about 60 seconds. Then walk back to the table and pick up the frame, slide it on the yolk and then insert 6 primers another 60 seconds and pewpewpew.

So total re-load time is maybe 3-4 minutes if you take your time. If I had to rush to do it, maybe 2 mins. The gun does get quite dirty though and I normally only do 5 maybe 6 cycles in an evening and then it needs a proper clean.

I have a second cylinder on my ticket too as I was going to get a second cylinder but don't think I will bother now as its not that difficult to re-load and fairly expensive around £500 after RFD to RFD etc as the cylinder needs fitting to the frame.
What an utter faff............ and its why I have zero interest in BP anything.....unless you include a want for a MH 577/450.





red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Its waaaay easier than BP, proper BP is a PITA. Messing about with grease and semolina on a gun range is not my idea of fun!

Each to their own though biggrin


MKnight702

3,109 posts

214 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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aeropilot said:
What an utter faff............ and its why I have zero interest in BP anything.....unless you include a want for a MH 577/450.
If you think that's a faff, don't bother with the MH. Loading for mine took ages to pull together all the necessary components to be able to produce a cartridge. I even purchased a mini lathe so I could start cutting down 24ga brass to form cases, until I found someone in the US who can make them for a reasonable cost. (Kranks want something like £7 each for an empty brass case!).

Loading each cartridge needed 85gn Swiss 2F, filler (I used semolina), a waxed card wad (I cut a load out from orange juice cartons), 2 lubed felt wads (I made my own using the same punch I used for the card wads and Gatofeo No1 lube that I made), topped with two further waxed card wads and finally a lubed 468gn lead bullet (also lubed with Gatofeo).

In the time it took to load 6 rounds you could have shot 2 or 3 cylinders of BP revolver.

Mind you, it was a huge amount of fun!

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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MKnight702 said:
(Kranks want something like £7 each for an empty brass case!).
The Bertram brass is excellent though, as made specifically not modified from another calibre. And that's because Kranks just convert the Aussie dollar rate to GBP rate!

They are £3.85 in their native Australia....and a mate who lives there and shoots said if I wanted a load he'd bring some back when he next flew home to see his family here in UK....although I have heard Bertram may have stopped making them.

TBH, I can't ever see my getting a MH anyway, for all sorts of reasons other than the faff of reloading.



Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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Chaps, heres a thread for you.....

What round is this ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Turn7 said:
Chaps, heres a thread for you.....

What round is this ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Err.....its been answered in that thread.


Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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aeropilot said:
Turn7 said:
Chaps, heres a thread for you.....

What round is this ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Err.....its been answered in that thread.
It hadnt at the time.....

jimmyjimjim

7,340 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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Lockdown being a time for spending, I was looking at $4.88 of accu-wedge to sort the very slight slop between the upper and lower receiver on the newer AR. Had a vague recollection of something....found it had a tensioning screw already installed. Set that, job done. Spent the money on snapcaps instead.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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jimmyjimjim said:
Lockdown being a time for spending, I was looking at $4.88 of accu-wedge to sort the very slight slop between the upper and lower receiver on the newer AR. Had a vague recollection of something....found it had a tensioning screw already installed. Set that, job done. Spent the money on snapcaps instead.
I am like you. This lock down is getting expensive with online shopping, especially of the gun nature.