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KingNothing said:
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/18606398.hun...
Gun Control Network being hyperbolic and disingenuous, what a surprise.
Yeah, hardly a surprise....but its too easy for them, they have the ear of the media, and we don't and never will have.Gun Control Network being hyperbolic and disingenuous, what a surprise.
Has a section 1 ever been used in a crime?
I have three and I can’t shoot more than one so do s the figure of how many make any difference
Karen’s trying to shut stuff down as usual.
So when you take away the current “most dangerous” they’ll go after the next and the next.
This country is just full of pathetic children. Somehow don’t give a f
k about daily stabbing acid attacks 1 million girls raped, murders shooting. Oh no let’s do a piece on shotguns
I have three and I can’t shoot more than one so do s the figure of how many make any difference
Karen’s trying to shut stuff down as usual.
So when you take away the current “most dangerous” they’ll go after the next and the next.
This country is just full of pathetic children. Somehow don’t give a f
k about daily stabbing acid attacks 1 million girls raped, murders shooting. Oh no let’s do a piece on shotguns Probably a handful of illegal ones in sometime in the past I’d imagine, I’d say majority of incidents involving shotguns, probably involve illegally held section 2’s more than anything, probably illegally modified into sawn offs as well for good measure.
Just hope the GCN stting on isn’t forewarning of what’s to come with this news about further “offensive weapons” legislation.
Just hope the GCN s
tting on isn’t forewarning of what’s to come with this news about further “offensive weapons” legislation.KingNothing said:
Just hope the GCN stting on isn’t forewarning of what’s to come with this news about further “offensive weapons” legislation.
I think its more likely to focus on the Sect 58 stuff and doing away with that.....and possible changes to the miniture rifle dispensation after the recent court case regarding the Full Metal Jacket Range.tting on isn’t forewarning of what’s to come with this news about further “offensive weapons” legislation.Pesty said:
Has a section 1 ever been used in a crime?
I have three and I can’t shoot more than one so do s the figure of how many make any difference
Karen’s trying to shut stuff down as usual.
So when you take away the current “most dangerous” they’ll go after the next and the next.
This country is just full of pathetic children. Somehow don’t give a fk about daily stabbing acid attacks 1 million girls raped, murders shooting. Oh no let’s do a piece on shotguns
Not many but the big one in recent years was the Cumbria shootings. I have three and I can’t shoot more than one so do s the figure of how many make any difference
Karen’s trying to shut stuff down as usual.
So when you take away the current “most dangerous” they’ll go after the next and the next.
This country is just full of pathetic children. Somehow don’t give a f
k about daily stabbing acid attacks 1 million girls raped, murders shooting. Oh no let’s do a piece on shotguns 
I've decided to take up clay pigeon shooting with a local club. It's been on my list of things to do for a long time but for one reason or another I kept putting it off.
I've shot game and vermin as a guest in the past and I've been an air rifle shooter for years so applying for an SGC seemed the sensible next step.
So I'm currently going through the process of the SGC application which hasn't gotten off to the best start. My GP has blank refused to provide anyone with a medical proforma which as of June/July this year has become mandatory in my force area (South Wales Police). I now have a minimum six week wait for a private medical surgery to provide one.
I've been putting some thought into gun storage while I wait. The only viable place I have is the old boiler cupboard in the spare room. It's inaccessible and out of the way any visitors or guests to the house but the one issue I think I may have is the construction of the house. It's a 90's build timber framed house with an air brick inner skin and block outer skin which leaves very little solid material to securely fix a cabinet to. The cupboard in question has a few wooden studs which the plasterboard is secured to which I can get a solid fixing to. Will this be acceptable to whoever carries out the inspection? I'd have thought that with a few good fixings into the stud you would have a hard time trying to remove the cabinet?
Also, what cabinet would one recommend for use with an scoped PCP air rifle and few shotguns? So far I've been looking at a Brattonsound RD5 as it's listed for use with scoped rifles and shotguns or alternatively a buffalo river cabinet of similar dimensions. I don't envisage owning more than 3 in total.
The TLDR version:
Can I fix a gun cabinet to a plasterboard wall by fixing into the studwork?
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Any recommendations for a cabinet to store a scoped PCP air rifle and shotguns. I have a limited height of 1400mm. Also, a good place to order a cabinet online.
I've shot game and vermin as a guest in the past and I've been an air rifle shooter for years so applying for an SGC seemed the sensible next step.
So I'm currently going through the process of the SGC application which hasn't gotten off to the best start. My GP has blank refused to provide anyone with a medical proforma which as of June/July this year has become mandatory in my force area (South Wales Police). I now have a minimum six week wait for a private medical surgery to provide one.
I've been putting some thought into gun storage while I wait. The only viable place I have is the old boiler cupboard in the spare room. It's inaccessible and out of the way any visitors or guests to the house but the one issue I think I may have is the construction of the house. It's a 90's build timber framed house with an air brick inner skin and block outer skin which leaves very little solid material to securely fix a cabinet to. The cupboard in question has a few wooden studs which the plasterboard is secured to which I can get a solid fixing to. Will this be acceptable to whoever carries out the inspection? I'd have thought that with a few good fixings into the stud you would have a hard time trying to remove the cabinet?
Also, what cabinet would one recommend for use with an scoped PCP air rifle and few shotguns? So far I've been looking at a Brattonsound RD5 as it's listed for use with scoped rifles and shotguns or alternatively a buffalo river cabinet of similar dimensions. I don't envisage owning more than 3 in total.
The TLDR version:
Can I fix a gun cabinet to a plasterboard wall by fixing into the studwork?
&
Any recommendations for a cabinet to store a scoped PCP air rifle and shotguns. I have a limited height of 1400mm. Also, a good place to order a cabinet online.
If you only get one shotgun you maybe able to use a clamp. But it very much depends on your location and force. The clamp would need to get secured to a brick wall though.
Another option is the loft, although most forces really dont like lofts as you might get lazy and not go up there to put the guns away so depends on access really.
Another option is the loft, although most forces really dont like lofts as you might get lazy and not go up there to put the guns away so depends on access really.
aeropilot said:
dci said:
Can I fix a gun cabinet to a plasterboard wall by fixing into the studwork?
Most forces won't accept that, needs to be fixed to a solid wall.aeropilot said:
Most forces won't accept that, needs to be fixed to a solid wall.
Thanks. I appreciate that's what the guidance text says but as with most modern build houses there isn't a solid wall in the building.
The best I can do is fix through the stud into the air bricks behind on the external facing wall of the cupboard.
red_slr said:
If you only get one shotgun you maybe able to use a clamp. But it very much depends on your location and force. The clamp would need to get secured to a brick wall though.
Another option is the loft, although most forces really dont like lofts as you might get lazy and not go up there to put the guns away so depends on access really.
Loft access is a PITA so I would guess that it would be immediately rejected by the firearms officer. I'm not that keen on hauling a firearms up a loft ladder every Sunday morning either. Another option is the loft, although most forces really dont like lofts as you might get lazy and not go up there to put the guns away so depends on access really.
smack said:
It is better he speaks his local Firearms Enquiry Officer, and get his advice/options, as he is the person that is going to approve it at the end of the day.
That's what I'll do though they are all currently working from home so I doubt I'll get a meaningful reply. Thanks.
dci said:
aeropilot said:
Most forces won't accept that, needs to be fixed to a solid wall.
Thanks. I appreciate that's what the guidance text says but as with most modern build houses there isn't a solid wall in the building.
The best I can do is fix through the stud into the air bricks behind on the external facing wall of the cupboard.
What is on the outside of the block outer wall?
Render?
aeropilot said:
I'm not sure what you mean by air brick inner skin and a block outer? You don't build a whole wall with air bricks?
What is on the outside of the block outer wall?
Render?
Perhaps air brick is the incorrect name for what they are. A quick Google suggests that they are aerated concrete or thermally insulating blocks. What is on the outside of the block outer wall?
Render?
I have render on the outside with concrete blocks underneath, then a cavity with some insulation (early 90's build) and then a layer of aerated concrete blocks. Above this is the studwork and then plasterboard.
I intend to fix through the stud work into the aerated concrete blocks with a 6 inch plus coach bolt or similar.
I've written to the firearms dept this evening querying this.
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