The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[mickyh7]

I don't think it will be too long.
Fox Hunting has gone.
Shooting and Fishing, yes Fishing as well,will be banned when another Labour Government gets power.
Make no mistake about Posh Boys with Guns!
Lead Shot is already banned in wetland area's. Which is where Ducks and Geese are hunted.
RSPB are loosing all of our Ground Nesting Birds as they buy up land and stop vermin/Fox control.
A Badger ate 20 odd Avocet chicks a while back. It swam to an island to get them.
RSPB said it was a one off ! A Rogue!
Hedgehogs nearly gone due to Badgers.
This is what they do.
RSPCA saying save the Badgers.
No Songbirds due to Magpies being in every hedgerow.
Country Side is dying because of Do Gooders.
Sorry Rant Over.

[aeropilot]

mickyh7 said:

Country Side is dying because of Do Gooders.

[Jim H]

Hi,
I’ve recently transferred a shotgun onto my current certificate, the previous owner died suddenly a few weeks ago - the family were keen for its removal off their premise.

Local firearms authority informed etc.

I’m hoping to sell it on behalf of the family as I really don’t have a requirement for it, I have 3 guns already.

If it was going to be relatively cheap, I would have made the family an offer. However I feel it has some value.

It’s a Beretta 686 E 12 G m/c 30” in very good condition.
I gave it a good clean yesterday and can tell it’s barely had any use. The previous owner had only used it twice.

I just wondered if any of you guys could recommend the best place to advertise it?

I know if I take it to a dealer, I’ll get the bare minimum for it.

Regards Jim.

[tobinen]

Gunmart, ShootClay forum, PigeonWatch are ones that come to mind.

[red_slr]

Gun Trader.

If DIY selling use caution when selling esp if its something you have not done before.

If you are passing Bamfords near Lancaster they might SOR it for you.

[NDA]

Jim H said:

It’s a Beretta 686 E 12 G m/c 30” in very good condition.

A dependable gun and probably worth around £1,500 in good condition.

As above, have it at a dealer under SOR.

[The_Doc]

Jim H said:

Hi,
I’ve recently transferred a shotgun onto my current certificate, the previous owner died suddenly a few weeks ago - the family were keen for its removal off their premise.

Local firearms authority informed etc.

I’m hoping to sell it on behalf of the family as I really don’t have a requirement for it, I have 3 guns already.

If it was going to be relatively cheap, I would have made the family an offer. However I feel it has some value.

It’s a Beretta 686 E 12 G m/c 30” in very good condition.
I gave it a good clean yesterday and can tell it’s barely had any use. The previous owner had only used it twice.

I just wondered if any of you guys could recommend the best place to advertise it?

I know if I take it to a dealer, I’ll get the bare minimum for it.

Regards Jim.

When the clay grounds open, I'd ask them if they'd let you put a card on their noticeboard.
Then perhaps ask your constabulary for help with the deal. Maybe so the deal in a police station.
You can sell a gun to another shotgun certificate holder.

t'internet said:

YOU complete HIS/HER certificate with YOUR details and details of the gun sold/given/let etc
Then BOTH of you need to notify the police of the sale / acquisition of the gun..

I believe this is right

[Jim H]

Thanks gents,

I bought my current Beretta 682 Gold E 32” from Bamfords 10 years ago, and I’ve never tired of shooting with it, really great gun, that’s why I’m not keen on this one to keep.

I feel like my 682 is an extension to my arm! I’m not keen on learning with another.

Like I say though, this 686, is a lovely gun in great condition.

I found Bamfords good to deal with, I’ll give em a call.

[Jim H]

The_Doc said:

Jim H said:

Hi,
I’ve recently transferred a shotgun onto my current certificate, the previous owner died suddenly a few weeks ago - the family were keen for its removal off their premise.

Local firearms authority informed etc.

I’m hoping to sell it on behalf of the family as I really don’t have a requirement for it, I have 3 guns already.

If it was going to be relatively cheap, I would have made the family an offer. However I feel it has some value.

It’s a Beretta 686 E 12 G m/c 30” in very good condition.
I gave it a good clean yesterday and can tell it’s barely had any use. The previous owner had only used it twice.

I just wondered if any of you guys could recommend the best place to advertise it?

I know if I take it to a dealer, I’ll get the bare minimum for it.

Regards Jim.

When the clay grounds open, I'd ask them if they'd let you put a card on their noticeboard.
Then perhaps ask your constabulary for help with the deal. Maybe so the deal in a police station.
You can sell a gun to another shotgun certificate holder.

t'internet said:

YOU complete HIS/HER certificate with YOUR details and details of the gun sold/given/let etc
Then BOTH of you need to notify the police of the sale / acquisition of the gun..

I believe this is right

My nearest clay shoot (Crabtree) at Lipton is taking bookings now, so I’ll be going soon - this is another option.

[Celtic Dragon]

Already got my booking in for Sporting Targets for 1st April!

[Iminquarantine]

Jim H said:

Hi,
I’ve recently transferred a shotgun onto my current certificate, the previous owner died suddenly a few weeks ago - the family were keen for its removal off their premise.

Local firearms authority informed etc.

I’m hoping to sell it on behalf of the family as I really don’t have a requirement for it, I have 3 guns already.

If it was going to be relatively cheap, I would have made the family an offer. However I feel it has some value.

It’s a Beretta 686 E 12 G m/c 30” in very good condition.
I gave it a good clean yesterday and can tell it’s barely had any use. The previous owner had only used it twice.

I just wondered if any of you guys could recommend the best place to advertise it?

I know if I take it to a dealer, I’ll get the bare minimum for it.

Regards Jim.

How much are you looking for? I have a cheap shotgun I don't use much; could do with a better one.

[MKnight702]

Yay! Got my first range day for a while coming up, now just need to decide what to take!

I'm definitely taking the .451 muzzleloader as I want to try it at 300m to see if I should try it at 600 yards at Bisley. However, other than that I just don't know, maybe the .22 for some cheap plinking but it is difficult to hear a hit at 300m. (100m & 200m are OK).

[Trapshot]

Hi guys, just saying hello and hope to add a bit more 5houhgts on guns and ammo. I always go by the theory buy best second hand rather than cheap new. Bling wont make you shoot better and only end up losing your money when it comes to trade in.
Have shot for 50 plus yrs clay and game with lots of pigeon as a pro shooter up in north east
. Last count I have 14 In cabinet, oldest 1875 with 4 double hammer 12 gauge 1 double hammer 8 bore 1863 WC Scott. One 12 gauge Greener SBS one 16bore SBS, great little gun on game.-One Beretta 12borre two Ceaser Gurrini and One Perrazi, plus 2 Thomas horsley 410 rook rifles..
Ran the CLA enclosure at the game fair for 12yrs coaching. Cant wait for the grounds to open this week as am getting withdrawal symptoms . Have fun stay safe. Trapshot

[MKnight702]

Hi all, be aware that there is a Government White Paper on banning the use of lead. Unfortunately, this is being supported by the BASC for some unknown reason. Whilst, the banning of lead on wetlands is understandable, this seems to be a much more wide reaching total ban on using lead, as far as I am aware this doesn't (yet) cover ranges but given the usual scope creep I can see this happening, indeed it is already happening in Europe.

This would effectively make all muzzle loaders and antiques obsolete overnight, all in the name of "environment" since they are either incapable of using the "green" alternatives or it makes them prohibitively expensive to use.

Oh, and for you airgun shooters and .22LR shooters, what do you think your ammo is made of? Yep, they are coming after you too.

[aeropilot]

MKnight702 said:

Unfortunately, this is being supported by the BASC for some unknown reason.

One of several reasons why I didn't renew my BASC membership a couple of months ago.

[Celtic Dragon]

MKnight702 said:

Oh, and for you airgun shooters and .22LR shooters, what do you think your ammo is made of? Yep, they are coming after you too.

Been on the radar of air gunners for the last couple of decades, which is why Dynamics tried to do a lead free alternative. Sadly they were a bit pants ( 2 of my rifles were beta test beds) but great barrel cleaners, ironically the lead versions were great!

Apparently the new batch of lead free by JSB are ok but still not as good as the current lead offerings.


It’s also why my requirements for my new shotgun are fit, comfort and steel proofed.

[urquattroGus]

MKnight702 said:

Hi all, be aware that there is a Government White Paper on banning the use of lead. Unfortunately, this is being supported by the BASC for some unknown reason. Whilst, the banning of lead on wetlands is understandable, this seems to be a much more wide reaching total ban on using lead, as far as I am aware this doesn't (yet) cover ranges but given the usual scope creep I can see this happening, indeed it is already happening in Europe.

This would effectively make all muzzle loaders and antiques obsolete overnight, all in the name of "environment" since they are either incapable of using the "green" alternatives or it makes them prohibitively expensive to use.

Oh, and for you airgun shooters and .22LR shooters, what do you think your ammo is made of? Yep, they are coming after you too.

I'm worrying about this too.

As pathetic as it is on darker days I've thought petrol cars are being banned and so is lead shot and maybe eventually shooting, somewhat irrational but nonetheless a worry!

My take on this is that I'll be disappointed if lead is banned but if we do it voluntarily and it means we can keep on shooting for some time yet then I'm OK with it.

What I'm worrying about is that between my father and I all of the guns we have are not suited to using steel shot. What does this mean, they become defunct completely?

I guess there is Bismuth which costsed the earth and never really took off, of some kind of Heavishot stuff? Or do I need to get a new set of steel shot proof barrels mae for my favourite gun which would be £££££. Or trade in and get a newer gun, but no one wants the trade in? Quite disparaging to think that a nice gun my great grandfather shot with becomes completely defunct....

[aeropilot]

urquattroGus said:

What I'm worrying about is that between my father and I all of the guns we have are not suited to using steel shot. What does this mean, they become defunct completely?

Or do I need to get a new set of steel shot proof barrels mae for my favourite gun which would be £££££. Or trade in and get a newer gun, but no one wants the trade in? Quite disparaging to think that a nice gun my great grandfather shot with becomes completely defunct....

Pretty much yes, to the first question, as well as the last point.

Choice will be between getting a new gun(s) or new barrels onto an old gun.

[MKnight702]

aeropilot said:

Pretty much yes, to the first question, as well as the last point.

Choice will be between getting a new gun(s) or new barrels onto an old gun.

Unless you shoot a muzzle loading pistol or rifle in which case you are stuffed.

Since all I can shoot with these is targets and the size of the projectile means it is unlikely to be picked up and eaten by a bird or animal it would be a backdoor gun ban, no doubt with no compensation either.

[aeropilot]

MKnight702 said:

aeropilot said:

Pretty much yes, to the first question, as well as the last point.

Choice will be between getting a new gun(s) or new barrels onto an old gun.

Unless you shoot a muzzle loading pistol or rifle in which case you are stuffed.

Since all I can shoot with these is targets and the size of the projectile means it is unlikely to be picked up and eaten by a bird or animal it would be a backdoor gun ban, no doubt with no compensation either.

Yes, but he was clearly asking about shotguns, which is why I didn't mention FAC stuff.

However, yes, you are right, in that the implications if the ban goes further into target range stuff is immense, and will be yet another back door gun ban, as you rightly say.
Not just muzzle loaders either, as many older rifles with non-replacable barrels, are keep going with cast boolits etc., bore matched etc., so the implications would be huge. Then there's the .22RF stuff as already mentioned.
Do I think this will happen.....?
Eventually yes, as this is politically driven by people with an agenda, and our so-called sporting organisations will do what they always do, roll over and accept it.