The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[aeropilot]

carinatauk said:

FurtiveFreddy said:

Honeywell said:

Then a new applicant would have to join a large commercial clay ground with a gun room. After a couple of years hey can apply to have a home storage variation so he can use the closer cheaper shed based clay ground having demonstrated that he is a committed clay shooter.

Not that he just fancies having a pump action 12 bore because.

How many "large commercial clay grounds" large and secure enough to store hundreds of guns do you think there are in the UK?

We've already been over this and the idea of storing huge quantities of guns at clubs was considered and dismissed back in the pistol ban days, so I suggest you drop this idea.

You really don't understand this subject so you might want to consider moving your discussion to another thread because this one is supposed to be about shooting sports.

He / she was on the other thread bleating the same nonsense. Honeywell comes across as really not understanding the sport nor the practicalities of said sport.

As per the other thread, maybe it would be better for all that he moves on as it is not going anywhere quickly

Which is really worrying for someone that claims to have a FAC & SGC.

But sadly, not untypical for many in the shooting community.

[FurtiveFreddy]

aeropilot said:

Which is really worrying for someone that claims to have a FAC & SGC.

I think we need to see the custard if we're to believe that!

[JonnyWhitters]

aeropilot said:

Which is really worrying for someone that claims to have a FAC & SGC.

But sadly, not untypical for many in the shooting community.

I cannot believe someone who’d post this

“If all I used a shotgun for was clay shooting then I would have no trouble with keeping it at their gun room. Going to be a lot less bother than buying a cabinet and drilling the walls at home etc.”

Holds anything other than a Stage 1 swimming certificate.

[KingNothing]

AndyAudi said:

KingNothing said:

Going to potentially buy a cabinet tomorrow if the local shop has the one I want in stock, going to finally send of for my FAC by the end of this month, just need to decide on what I want and ammunition quantities, everything else is already filled in on the form.

You’ve probably researched already but, consider where you are to be locating it, some prefer hinge to be be on opposite side to the wall it’s being fixed to, making it harder to lever open with a crowbar. (Left hand hinges are avail but a wee bit more expensive). For this reason a bigger cabinet than you need is easier to operate (& soon isn’t bigger than you need as you get more!). I like my latest Brattonsound. Single key door with bank vault style door bolts give a really solid feel & lot less faff than two key safes. I just got my RFD to get mine, which is the way Brattonsound operate.

Bought a 5 capacity extra deep Brattonsound, regular hinges should be OK for the places where I can put it. Will send off FAC at the end of the month. Will wait for FEO to contact me before I fit it and ask their advice about where they would allow. Just need to finalise my list of what firearms I want to ask for now.

[Celtic Dragon]

KingNothing said:

Bought a 5 capacity extra deep Brattonsound, regular hinges should be OK for the places where I can put it. Will send off FAC at the end of the month. Will wait for FEO to contact me before I fit it and ask their advice about where they would allow. Just need to finalise my list of what firearms I want to ask for now.

I have that safe, and with the 2 air rifles, the o/u, and the semi auto shotgun in there it’s like playing Tetris to get them all to sit happily with the extra space the bolt/ cocking handles take up on the sides of 3 of them.

Not a problem if you plan on storing rifle and bolt separately, but if not it’s worth pointing out.

Edited by Celtic Dragon on Saturday 21st August 10:03

[200Plus Club]

Gun safe manufacturers need prosecuting under trades descriptions act usually over what they claim and what the safe really holds. I've ended up with two through bolted together and to wall to create enough room for my collection.

[AstonZagato]

200Plus Club said:

Gun safe manufacturers need prosecuting under trades descriptions act usually over what they claim and what the safe really holds. I've ended up with two through bolted together and to wall to create enough room for my collection.

I think gun safes realistically hold half of whatever capacity they advertise. Yes, technically, you can fit the guns in but only if you like bashing them together.

[aeropilot]

200Plus Club said:

Gun safe manufacturers need prosecuting under trades descriptions act usually over what they claim and what the safe really holds. I've ended up with two through bolted together and to wall to create enough room for my collection.

All of the gunsafe makers give their capacity based on fitting o/u shotguns in and not anything else.

As said, if storing bolt action rifles, that capacity reduces massively if stored with bolt in.

I've got a 7 gun Brattonsound and I can fit all 7 of my guns in it, but 3 of the 4 bolt action rifles have to be stored with bolts removed and kept in the seperate ammo safe (which is no bad practice anyway)

[Celtic Dragon]

aeropilot said:

All of the gunsafe makers give their capacity based on fitting o/u shotguns in and not anything else.

Which when as per this example, they are sold as rifles safes, it’s a ridiculous thing to quote as a unit of measurement.

Edited by Celtic Dragon on Saturday 21st August 20:55

[jimmyjimjim]

I've an 18 gun cabinet. Admittedly, it's convertible so the 18 capacity layout is not one I use, nor do I have 18 guns, but if it was, it would be a struggle to get close, unless they were all pistols. 12 comfortably, and a couple of others really uncomfortably, at best.

[miroku1]

Am i missing something here ? I have a 7 gun and 5 cabinet , both take that number of guns ?
Are some of the newer cabinets not fit for purpose? Is this the argument?
Never had a problem personally

[200Plus Club]

Probably more to do with rifles than shotguns. I've more rifles than shotguns hence having to buy a 2nd cabinet as I couldn't fit them in despite being advertised as suitable.

[aeropilot]

200Plus Club said:

Probably more to do with rifles than shotguns. I've more rifles than shotguns hence having to buy a 2nd cabinet as I couldn't fit them in despite being advertised as suitable.

Yep.
I've got a 7 gun, but with 6 rifles and only 1 shotgun.
4 of the rifles are bolt action old milsurps, and I have to remove the bolts of 3 of them to be able to fit the 7 in the 7 slots.

[Love Labradors]

Honeywell does not really understand the application for a shotgun certificate

you DO NOT have to prove you have access to any land/club - end of story

i cannot be bothered to read back but did not Honeywell boast he had a cabinet 'full of firearms/shotguns'?

why should you be allowed home storage but you demand that others guns should be stored 'off site' bloody hypocrite imo

like many others - when i lived in London i would be denied my shotgun certificate and firearms licence under his rules?

mind you i did not live in a 'council house/area' - something that Honeywell seems to think is important in granting licences

Honeywell is the worst of the seemingly elitists who seem to place a certain 'social standing/appearance' on gun ownership

well, Honeywell when i ran my sporting agency you are exactly the sort i would decline dealing with

Edited by Love Labradors on Tuesday 24th August 10:25

Edited by Love Labradors on Tuesday 24th August 10:30

[Iminquarantine]

FurtiveFreddy said:

aeropilot said:

Which is really worrying for someone that claims to have a FAC & SGC.

I think we need to see the custard if we're to believe that!

He's also an anti-vaxxer who claims or infers to be a paid pilot (I say paid pilot as it's not clear if this is airline line pilot, freight or pilot for the smallest Cessna that is fitted with cabin pressurisation). Despite being a professional pilot for pressurised aircraft, which would be a not insignificant skill even for a small one, he doesn't seem to understand HEPA filters, cabin or cabin air filters, even though I understand them and I can't fly anything larger than a non-pressurised Cessna with pistons.

[JustGREENI]

Been to a local club competition today.
Last stand of 12, second pair of 3, I somehow managed to NOT shout ‘PULL’, but shouted ‘BANG’ instead!
I missed the pair, because I was laughing, what the hell???!!! God knows what was going on in my head. Luckily there was nobody but the Missus and I.

[jimmyjimjim]

Got bored, spent money. The bolt catch will be the fourth I've tried. The takedown pins are extended on the reverse end - you can push them to get them started.
Feel free to guess how much for both...

[Murph7355]

jimmyjimjim said:

Got bored, spent money. The bolt catch will be the fourth I've tried. The takedown pins are extended on the reverse end - you can push them to get them started.
Feel free to guess how much for both...

$50.

I like the picture of the duck on the logo.... Duck shooting with an AR15...

[aeropilot]

Murph7355 said:

jimmyjimjim said:

Got bored, spent money. The bolt catch will be the fourth I've tried. The takedown pins are extended on the reverse end - you can push them to get them started.
Feel free to guess how much for both...

$50.

I like the picture of the duck on the logo.... Duck shooting with an AR15...

I know someone in the USA that lives really out in the sticks that sometimes goes squirrel shooting with his WW2 30-06 M1 Garand rifle...
I asked once, why?
He just said "because I can"
Can't argue with that

[jimmyjimjim]

And that's the attitude of a lot of people here!

Decent guess on the price...but with the cheapest shipping, it was $94.