The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[tertius]

Several Hull SuperFast failures including a misfire that left the wad in the barrel.

[Rojibo]

And these were all fairly recent too.. Some chap said there were some problems with primer manufacturing recently. Maybe the claim holds some water.

[smithyithy]

I was having several misfires with my FBlacks about a month ago. Had my firing pins replaced as they were pretty old and worn.

500-600 shots later, issue returned, 1 misfire with an FBlack from the same batch on Friday, and 5!! misfires from F3's Saturday during a registered shoot.

So whether it's the cartridges or the gun, or both, I'm not sure. But the gun will be going back to the 'smiths asap and I'll probably move to a different cartridges brand as I've pretty much lost confidence in the Fiocchi, despite really enjoying shooting them :/

[Rojibo]

5!! Were they kept underwater by the seller or something? I’ve never known that rate. Fblacks have been faultless for me. I can’t think it would be the pins if you’ve already had them replaced.

Shot a personal best of 74 for me today, on what I think was my fourth registered, which I’m pretty happy with.

[smithyithy]

I know, it's ridiculous and it definitely affected my confidence throughout the shoot as I was kinda on edge each time I shot :/

Still managed a new PB though, only 66, but I think I'm gradually improving the scores and consistency so moving in the right direction.

Congrats on your score too dude 😎

[Filibuster]

I just bought myself a new gun



It's a 1st gen P226 X-Five. Can't wait to shoot it

[aeropilot]

I still miss being able to shoot pistols

[pocketspring]

aeropilot said:

I still miss being able to shoot pistols

Ah yes the knee jerk government reaction to a situation that couldn't have been prevented.

[tumble dryer]

It was most certainly not knee-jerk. It was planned just after 'Hungerford' happened, just waiting for the next 'event'.

Feckers.

[Harry Flashman]

I have absolutely no problem with a private ownership of handgun ban. We handed ours over when it haopened.

Not being able to shoot at a club is annoying, but that's all. To me the societal impact of a load of people owning concealable, easily transported and easy to use multi round weapons is not worth giving everyone the right to own them.

[aeropilot]

Harry Flashman said:

To me the societal impact of a load of people owning concealable, easily transported and easy to use multi round weapons is not worth giving everyone the right to own them.

No civilian in the UK has ever 'had a right to own a firearm' of any type, and still doesn't (certainly not since 1968)

You have the right to make an application to see if you meet the many criteria to be considered to be competent to own one, but no rights beyond that.

[pocketspring]

Harry Flashman said:

Not being able to shoot at a club is annoying, but that's all. To me the societal impact of a load of people owning concealable, easily transported and easy to use multi round weapons is not worth giving everyone the right to own them.

So get rid of shotguns as well then.

[beagrizzly]

pocketspring said:

Harry Flashman said:

Not being able to shoot at a club is annoying, but that's all. To me the societal impact of a load of people owning concealable, easily transported and easy to use multi round weapons is not worth giving everyone the right to own them.

So get rid of shotguns as well then.

Not many shotguns are concealable, easily transportable or truly multi-round?

[gotoPzero]

Enjoy what you have because the day will come when you cant have any of it.

[aeropilot]

gotoPzero said:

Enjoy what you have because the day will come when you cant have any of it.

^^This.

[Filibuster]

gotoPzero said:

Enjoy what you have because the day will come when you cant have any of it.

I realise you are talking about the situation in the UK (and the EU for that matter), but I have high hopes we here in Switzerland won’t follow that trend.

Although we have had several aggravations in our local gun laws, it is heaven compared to the situation in the UK (or even Germany). I doubt we will arrive at the same situation as you guys are…

[The_Doc]

gotoPzero said:

Enjoy what you have because the day will come when you cant have any of it.

Personally, and this is just an opinion, I don't think we will lose sports shotgun shooting. It just can't re rolled into the same ball as pistols and called the same thing.

1. The crime argument.
With free ownership of any gun, including virtually military style rifles, America shows us that gun crime is committed principally with pistols because they are concealable, and rifles if you are going all Matrix/Columbine. Uncontrolled shotgun ownership just doesn't equal mass crime gun usage.
2. The sports shooting/blood sports argument.
England might be a bit lefty, and if you read the papers too much, very lefty when it actually isn't that bad. But we are a nation of omnivores and if the blood sports thing was a problem, they would be pushing it hard already. Think PETA and the RSPB and all that, they just don't table laws in our parliament wholesale. The Welsh gamebird release problem was rolled back by BASC,
3. The politician argument.
The way our two houses are structured (Commons, Lords) there are still a very large number in there of what I'd call MidUpperClassShootingFieldsportsEtcTypes, which means nothing, but what I'm saying is that laws get passed by people, and I reckon the proportion of politicians who have set foot on a game drive, grouse moor or clay shoot, versus the general public proportion is high. You have sympathy and interest in your own interests. This could change, but it won't change quickly.

So. I think public ownership of long barrelled, low velocity (relative), guns isn't threatened right now

[The_Doc]

Data:
What gun type is used for homicide in USA 2023
Handguns 45.7%
Rifles 2.6%
Shotguns 1.4%
Firearms (type unknown) 23.9%
https://www.gafirm.com/legal-blog/commonly-used-we...

Parliament and class UK
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/parliame...
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brie...

Game shooting Opinion
- difficult to source, all Guardian articles skew the field !

[The Moose]

The_Doc said:

Personally, and this is just an opinion, I don't think we will lose sports shotgun shooting. It just can't re rolled into the same ball as pistols and called the same thing.

1. The crime argument.
With free ownership of any gun, including virtually military style rifles, America shows us that gun crime is committed principally with pistols because they are concealable, and rifles if you are going all Matrix/Columbine. Uncontrolled shotgun ownership just doesn't equal mass crime gun usage.
2. The sports shooting/blood sports argument.
England might be a bit lefty, and if you read the papers too much, very lefty when it actually isn't that bad. But we are a nation of omnivores and if the blood sports thing was a problem, they would be pushing it hard already. Think PETA and the RSPB and all that, they just don't table laws in our parliament wholesale. The Welsh gamebird release problem was rolled back by BASC,
3. The politician argument.
The way our two houses are structured (Commons, Lords) there are still a very large number in there of what I'd call MidUpperClassShootingFieldsportsEtcTypes, which means nothing, but what I'm saying is that laws get passed by people, and I reckon the proportion of politicians who have set foot on a game drive, grouse moor or clay shoot, versus the general public proportion is high. You have sympathy and interest in your own interests. This could change, but it won't change quickly.

So. I think public ownership of long barrelled, low velocity (relative), guns isn't threatened right now

You’ve missed the “guns=bad in all ways” thought that a lot of Brits appear to spout.

[The_Doc]

I think that's just a media portrayal.
The problem sometimes is thinking that what you see on the TV news is a reflection of real life.
TV is just click bait and attention grabbing these days. It's an entertainment vehicle, harvesting likes.

The general public aren't that polarised, I think.
The less TV news you watch the better.
Again, just my opinons

Edited by The_Doc on Wednesday 1st May 16:57