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_dobbo_

14,402 posts

249 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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ferrisbueller said:
I don't hate Froome and I don't love Yates.
The love/hate comment was really directed at you - I probably shouldn't have quoted you as it was more a general question for the thread

mcelliott

8,686 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
ferrisbueller said:
I don't hate Froome and I don't love Yates.
The love/hate comment was really directed at you - I probably shouldn't have quoted you as it was more a general question for the thread
It's pro cycling why would you expect ether of them to be clean?

_dobbo_

14,402 posts

249 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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mcelliott said:
It's pro cycling why would you expect ether of them to be clean?
If we assume they both aren't, then in the most recent page of this thread Froome is getting abuse for being clean, and therefor being st.

Yates is getting praise for winning. Presumably based on your comment it's pro cycling so he's not clean.

So who do we dislike and why exactly?


Campagnolo

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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mcelliott said:
_dobbo_ said:
ferrisbueller said:
I don't hate Froome and I don't love Yates.
The love/hate comment was really directed at you - I probably shouldn't have quoted you as it was more a general question for the thread
It's pro cycling why would you expect ether of them to be clean?
Because doping is only done by foreigners!

Long Drax

744 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Campagnolo said:
mcelliott said:
_dobbo_ said:
ferrisbueller said:
I don't hate Froome and I don't love Yates.
The love/hate comment was really directed at you - I probably shouldn't have quoted you as it was more a general question for the thread
It's pro cycling why would you expect ether of them to be clean?
Because doping is only done by foreigners!
Yates is Lancashire-born. You can't any more foreign than that. Ask anyone round here.


Matt_N

8,904 posts

203 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Interesting playout yesterday, short stage with a punchy finish, Yates may have expected to take more time from Dumoulin. Dumoulin did look spent at the end though.

Two flat stages now before the Zoncolan on Saturday, Yates will be looking to take time again but how much does he need, can he hold on and withstand the pressure of leading his first GT?

Another 'hilly' stage on Sunday before the rest day and then it's ITT time on Tuesday, 34.5km, Dumoulin will be looking to smash this and Yates.

Wednesday takes in another flattish stage, Thursday a hockey stick stage summiting on Prato Nevoso.

Friday is the Cima Coppi stage, another brute taking in the Colle delle Finestre climbing to 2178m over 18km at an avg gradient of 9% with the last 9km on gravel!

The penultimate stage is Susa to Cervina, nearly flat first 125km with 3 Cat 1 in the final 90km.

When you look at what's still to come there is plenty of racing to be done with some serious climbing to conquer, shaping up to be a good one.

ferrisbueller

29,347 posts

228 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Dumoulin, doping or not, impresses with his ability to climb for a big man. The way he kept digging yesterday was amazing.

It took Aru and his team several stages and loads of attacks to eventually break him when he was effectively on his own.

When Chavez was up there they could mix things up and try some different tactics with two potential winners. 1 v 1 with a big TT to come is an intriguing battle.

JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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he's going to hemorrhage time on zoncolan though, 22% pitches etc. I reckon Yates need to stretch that lead to over 90 seconds before the TT.

Apparently Yates and Chaves combined is only 110 Kg biggrin what's Dumoulin? 70? 75?

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th May 2018
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Great racing so far, every day has been an utter corker

Dumoulin hugging Yates straight after the finish was a nice touch


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Giro has been great so far. Loads of racing left with, as Matt said, some tough stages

Tomorrow is the Zoncolan: ‘the hardest climb in europe’

10.1km, 1200m elevation gain with some 22% bits

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 18th May 19:25

Matt_N

8,904 posts

203 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Wow, just caught the last 1.5km of the Zoncolan!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Matt_N said:
Wow, just caught the last 1.5km of the Zoncolan!
Fantastic stage.

ferrisbueller

29,347 posts

228 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Will have to catch the highlights later.

On paper it's starting to look desperately close going into the TT.

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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JPJPJP said:
Fantastic stage.
Outstanding cool

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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Another storming ride from Yates today.
Expected more from Froome after yesterday's showing.

NRS

22,219 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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DuraAce said:
Another storming ride from Yates today.
Expected more from Froome after yesterday's showing.
Just seems like Froome is not in shape for this race. He gets mentioned a lot, but more due to his past performances rather than anything in the Giro this year (apart from yesterday - but that is potentially easier to do if you don't have to worry about the overall lead). I wonder if Froome will drop out now, or just continue to lose time and save his efforts for another stage win at some point.

Brave of Yates, but that is what he needs to do. Puts the pressure on Tom now.

mcelliott

8,686 posts

182 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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DuraAce said:
Another storming ride from Yates today.
Expected more from Froome after yesterday's showing.
Froome is finished as a gt rider, yesterdays win was like a final burp some people give before dying. Epic rides from Yates,also Tommy D he just may of saved his Giro with that effort.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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Best giro for years imo

Fantastic effort by Yates today, really going for it

Dumoulin too.

llewop

3,595 posts

212 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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mcelliott said:
Froome is finished as a gt rider, yesterdays win was like a final burp some people give before dying. Epic rides from Yates,also Tommy D he just may of saved his Giro with that effort.
Yates has more chances with the lumpy stages after the TT, even if he does slip behind Dumoulin. Having said that - the effort Dumoulin has had to make to limit his losses over the last couple of days could have an impact on his time-trial so Yates doesn't end up losing as much as everyone expects.

Not sure you're right about Froome - his year is (and probably always has been) focused on TDF, going well here would have been a bonus. Clearly we'll see how that plays out later in the summer!

NRS

22,219 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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llewop said:
mcelliott said:
Froome is finished as a gt rider, yesterdays win was like a final burp some people give before dying. Epic rides from Yates,also Tommy D he just may of saved his Giro with that effort.
Yates has more chances with the lumpy stages after the TT, even if he does slip behind Dumoulin. Having said that - the effort Dumoulin has had to make to limit his losses over the last couple of days could have an impact on his time-trial so Yates doesn't end up losing as much as everyone expects.

Not sure you're right about Froome - his year is (and probably always has been) focused on TDF, going well here would have been a bonus. Clearly we'll see how that plays out later in the summer!
Have to agree - one bad gt race doesn't mean anyone is finished. Could well just be injury or just not having aimed to peak at this race.