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GOATever

2,651 posts

68 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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If stage 15 is anything to go by Quintana won’t do anything to help Yates, even at the cost of his own podium position. Yates is going to have to battle like hell over the next stages if he wants to end up in red.

Digger

14,702 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Johnny said:
Looking forward to today's stage.

Dare we start to dream? All 3 GTs held by (different!) British riders...
Bonkers isn't it. I wonder if anyone put a tenner on that happening at the beginning of the year . . .

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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He survives another difficult stage today two more flat stages then Saturdays mountain stage to for him...he couldn't actually do it could he?

_dobbo_

14,390 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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the finish today looked brutal and Valverde looked very good...

I hope Yates can cling on, I don’t mind Valverde at all and he’s great to watch but Yates deserves this in my opinion

Interesting to me is they are both formerly banned for doping, I wonder if Froome just served a ban and got on with it if the fans would leave him alone hehe

Talksteer

4,887 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
the finish today looked brutal and Valverde looked very good...

I hope Yates can cling on, I don’t mind Valverde at all and he’s great to watch but Yates deserves this in my opinion

Interesting to me is they are both formerly banned for doping, I wonder if Froome just served a ban and got on with it if the fans would leave him alone hehe
Err Valverde was involved in Operation Puerto which involved organised blood doping, he was successful in the tail end of the blood doping era. He received a two year ban

Simon Yates tested positive for terbutaline without a TUE due to an admin error, he received a 4 month suspension.

This is like drawing equivalence between 3 points for speeding and causing death by dangerous driving.....

The critics have been accusing Froome of doping since 2013, before the inhaler the Sky haters were basing the claims that Froome doped purely on climbing speed and that he cycled for team Sky.

Confirmation bias means we tend to shape facts to our pre existing biases, so for critics of Froome if he had voluntarily suspended himself it would have been viewed as an admission of guilt rather than someone acting whiter than white.

The whole zero tolerance of doping and winning clean were bad idea's, in hindsight the Argyle/Garmin/powered by education/tetrapak method of confession to previous doping sins plus a commitment to be prepared to "loose clean would have been more effective.



_dobbo_

14,390 posts

249 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Apologies, I want drawing an equivalence between Valverde and Yates other than that they have both served bans. My point was that some cycling fans find it easier to forgive a formerly banned rider than accept the idea of a clean rider winning. It was a bad joke nothing more!

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Yates looking increasingly strong. Agree with the comments about it being possibly one of the best grand tour victories. He's had to work like hell (yates).... not a bad team M. Scott but certainly not as strong as sky or movistar etc.

Hats off to valverde too. That man was born to race bikes, unbelievable that he can still mix it with riders much younger than him.

His stats for consistency are truly remarkable smile

I've really enjoyed the Vuelta yet again, I think it's the unpredictability that makes it so open and fun to watch!



johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Dr Imran T said:
It would be great to see Yates win the Vuelta, his interview post stage yesterday was funny smile

Still think Quintana is the biggest threat to GC mind.
Still think so. I am kind of disappointed in Quintana he burst on to the scene and looked like he could destroy people in the mountain stages but it just hasn't happened. Yes he is superb but not quite at the level he should be maybe he needs a change of team.

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

153 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Agree re: Quitana

He was going to sweep all before him in 2013 - and he has done well, but people were expecting the next mega-star

Don1

15,952 posts

209 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Quintana.... I really liked him but then his antics and rudeness has dimmed his star in my eyes. Things like attacking when the leader of the race has a mechanical. He's as bad/petulant as Nibbles, IMO.

I really like the Yates brothers, but why do they talk through their teeth? biggrin

Fingers crossed three different Brits hold the title for the 3 Grand Tours this year.

But my, hasn't the race been exciting with Sky sitting at the front? Yesterday the break held off the peleton on a 'sprint' day.... Cracking stuff.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

200 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Agree with the above about Quintana too. Expected so much more from him but he hasn't really delivered to his true potential. He certainly has the natural climbing ability.

Today's stage looks great, huge climb at the end to over 2000+ metres.

JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Attacking the leader having a mechanical is a good thing IMO. Racing is a test of man and bike, and if the bike cocks up, well that’s your problem really.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Great day for Simon Yates - gap to Valverde over a minute and a half now!

Johnny

9,652 posts

285 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Smashed it

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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OMG I dare not watch this for fear of a collapse just one more day to go for the greatest Tour victory by a British rider.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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johnxjsc1985 said:
OMG I dare not watch this for fear of a collapse just one more day to go for the greatest Tour victory by a British rider.
hehe

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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just watching the highlights on ITV4 watching Yates looking super strong on the big ring up the climb . Valverde looking at Adam Yates probably thinking why is he not in the leaders Jersey.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Watching Yates interview he reminds me and looks like a 60's rider. Just one more stage to survive although I think he will if he has the legs try to put Valverde to the sword

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Excellent vuelta.

Fingers crossed Yates hangs on to red

I think he will and deserves to

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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I will celebrate his ( potential) win far more than any other GT winner he really has done it the hard way.