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Chris Stott

13,386 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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laugh

Not stylish to watch for sure, but some of his mountain attacks/breakaways were fabulous. Plus his one man attack on last years Giro is stuff of legend.

SydneyBridge

8,622 posts

159 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Fractured femur, elbow and some ribs
Nasty

Black can man

31,840 posts

169 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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BoRED S2upid said:
Ouch. I broke mine as a kid in a bike crash I finally have something in common with Froome!

Don’t agree that it’s the end of his career though.
I hope it's not but time isn't on his side.

Scabutz

7,631 posts

81 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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BoRED S2upid said:
Ouch. I broke mine as a kid in a bike crash I finally have something in common with Froome!

Don’t agree that it’s the end of his career though.
Hard to say but I read earlier only one person back in 1922 or close has won the TdF at 35 or older which he will be. He's going to be out for months, then has to get back up to fitness. Bones dont heal as well at that age.

Hope it's not. He's not the most exciting rider but he has his moments in the mountains.

I've not been following the cycling as much recently. So what does this mean for G? Is he in good form? Who is the biggest competition?

mooseracer

1,896 posts

171 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Chris Stott said:
laugh

Not stylish to watch for sure, but some of his mountain attacks/breakaways were fabulous. Plus his one man attack on last years Giro is stuff of legend.
Yes, the attack on that stage was simply brilliant. I always preferred Bertie (steak or no steak), but enjoy watching Froome all the same.

mcelliott

8,673 posts

182 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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RobinBanks said:
Demoulin?
I'd love to see Tommy D win, reckon Bernal will be licking his lips right now.

BoRED S2upid

19,713 posts

241 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Scabutz said:
Hard to say but I read earlier only one person back in 1922 or close has won the TdF at 35 or older which he will be. He's going to be out for months, then has to get back up to fitness. Bones dont heal as well at that age.

Hope it's not. He's not the most exciting rider but he has his moments in the mountains.

I've not been following the cycling as much recently. So what does this mean for G? Is he in good form? Who is the biggest competition?
G is favourite now if not before his season as with Froome was focused on the Tour. I’d say Bernal has got to be up there too just because of the strength of Ineos it’s a team sport after all.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I really don't mind who wins as long as they win it with attacking aggressive riding not just using a team who slowly grind down the opposition.
It was great when Sky brought in this formula for winning but I want old fashioned racing now.

ferrisbueller

29,339 posts

228 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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The more detail released, the worse it sounds. Not good at all. 54 km/h into a wall.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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ferrisbueller said:
The more detail released, the worse it sounds. Not good at all. 54 km/h into a wall.
never hit a wall but I came off in the Velodrome and I distinctly remember thinking oh this is going to hurt I suspect Froome had a similar thought only far more explicit.
Good luck to him on his recovery

ChocolateFrog

25,439 posts

174 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Broken, leg, hip, elbow and ribs as well as loss of consciousness.

It sounds like a bad one.

RobinBanks

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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ChocolateFrog said:
Broken, leg, hip, elbow and ribs as well as loss of consciousness.

It sounds like a bad one.
Possibly career ending at his age.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Dave Brailsford said:
He came down a technical descent and on to a straighter piece of road with houses either side. He signalled to Wout that he was going to clear his nose, he took his hand of the bar to do that and a gust of wind took his front wheel, he lost control and went straight into the wall of a house.

We have had a look at his data, he went from 54km/h to a dead stop.
Wowsers! yikes

At least when I got hit by a van I was only at 14 mph, and instead of a dead stop I was fired off the front of the van at 14 mph at 90º to my original course, so I'd lost speed by the time I hit the deck. 54 km/h into a wall though? I can't even imagine how much pain I'd be in.

Scary stuff. Surgery, intensive care, etc. Far too early to be speculating about recovery and racing again. Best wishes to him, though, for a full and fast recovery, whether it leads to him racing again or not. He's never been a favourite rider of mine, but the way he manages a race (with the rest of the team) is interesting (if not exciting) to watch.

Talksteer

4,878 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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S100HP said:
Chris Stott said:
Bummer. Really enjoy watching him in the mountains.
Err.. wasn't exactly the most thrilling rider
Do you watch cycling?

His interviews are boring, his riding was brilliant:

TDF 2013, two solo escapes resulting in stage wins included the infamous seated attack, gained time on rivals in cross winds.
TDF 2014 fell off
TDF 2015 takes jersey with solo attack, defends it when ill towards the end of the race, hangs on in nail biting finale
TDF 2016 takes jersey with infamous top tube descent, takes further time with a "team pursuit" attack on the flat, crashes on ventoux and runs up it without his bike
TDF 2017 isn't the strongest rider in the mountains, wins anyway by stealing time limiting losses and TT skills, wins TDF by less and a minute in a race that goes down to the wire.
GIRO 2018 80km solo breakaway across two high mountain to overturn 2 minute deficit and win the race

So yes boring Froome....

Matt_N

8,903 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Broken femur/hip sounds like the same break I had in early 2015 (bike slipped on a patch of ice and down I went), broken neck of the femur is also known as broken hip and what old people tend to break when they do a hip.

Horrible break and took me 3 months to walk again and 5 months before I was back on the bike.

Get well soon Chris.

Kermit power

28,666 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Talksteer said:
Do you watch cycling?

His interviews are boring, his riding was brilliant:

TDF 2013, two solo escapes resulting in stage wins included the infamous seated attack, gained time on rivals in cross winds.
TDF 2014 fell off
TDF 2015 takes jersey with solo attack, defends it when ill towards the end of the race, hangs on in nail biting finale
TDF 2016 takes jersey with infamous top tube descent, takes further time with a "team pursuit" attack on the flat, crashes on ventoux and runs up it without his bike
TDF 2017 isn't the strongest rider in the mountains, wins anyway by stealing time limiting losses and TT skills, wins TDF by less and a minute in a race that goes down to the wire.
GIRO 2018 80km solo breakaway across two high mountain to overturn 2 minute deficit and win the race

So yes boring Froome....
The bit that gets me is the time trial. Nothing against Froome, but I hate the way they stick time trials in stage races. In recent years, it has often resulted in less than 1% of the race completely changing the outcome.

I know plenty of people on here will vehemently defend the time trial, but to me they just make a mockery of the rest of the race, and with Froome as the arch practitioner in recent years, he had rather spoilt my enjoyment.

I'd be much happier if the riders weren't allowed radios, bike computers or any other form of external input whilst riding them

snobetter

1,162 posts

147 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Kermit power said:
Talksteer said:
Do you watch cycling?

His interviews are boring, his riding was brilliant:

TDF 2013, two solo escapes resulting in stage wins included the infamous seated attack, gained time on rivals in cross winds.
TDF 2014 fell off
TDF 2015 takes jersey with solo attack, defends it when ill towards the end of the race, hangs on in nail biting finale
TDF 2016 takes jersey with infamous top tube descent, takes further time with a "team pursuit" attack on the flat, crashes on ventoux and runs up it without his bike
TDF 2017 isn't the strongest rider in the mountains, wins anyway by stealing time limiting losses and TT skills, wins TDF by less and a minute in a race that goes down to the wire.
GIRO 2018 80km solo breakaway across two high mountain to overturn 2 minute deficit and win the race

So yes boring Froome....
The bit that gets me is the time trial. Nothing against Froome, but I hate the way they stick time trials in stage races. In recent years, it has often resulted in less than 1% of the race completely changing the outcome.

I know plenty of people on here will vehemently defend the time trial, but to me they just make a mockery of the rest of the race, and with Froome as the arch practitioner in recent years, he had rather spoilt my enjoyment.

I'd be much happier if the riders weren't allowed radios, bike computers or any other form of external input whilst riding them
I've started listening to the Brad Wiggens podcast, which has changed my opinion on him generally, but his insights on to time trialing and how badly some teams and riders prepare for them was interesting.

Labradorofperception

4,710 posts

92 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Kermit power said:
The bit that gets me is the time trial. Nothing against Froome, but I hate the way they stick time trials in stage races. In recent years, it has often resulted in less than 1% of the race completely changing the outcome.

I know plenty of people on here will vehemently defend the time trial, but to me they just make a mockery of the rest of the race, and with Froome as the arch practitioner in recent years, he had rather spoilt my enjoyment.

I'd be much happier if the riders weren't allowed radios, bike computers or any other form of external input whilst riding them
Not sure I agree.

The TT is a good way of breaking a team's grip on a race. Domoulin is expert at using his TT skills to work his way up the ranking, because his Sunweb team is not the strongest and he is often isolated.

Froome happens to be an excellent tester, but he's on his own out there. Yes, Ineos will prepare intensely for a TT, but so should all teams. In terms of kit, their Pinarello is a step or two behind the Canyon used by Movistar.

It means it's a real chance to mix things up. The main reason it has been a bit "dull" over recent years is that Froome is 1) a bloody good TT'er, 2) a good all round rider and 3) in the strongest GC team.

You still can't beat the 1989 TT - I still watch that on you Tube.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Labradorofperception said:
Kermit power said:
The bit that gets me is the time trial. Nothing against Froome, but I hate the way they stick time trials in stage races. In recent years, it has often resulted in less than 1% of the race completely changing the outcome.

I know plenty of people on here will vehemently defend the time trial, but to me they just make a mockery of the rest of the race, and with Froome as the arch practitioner in recent years, he had rather spoilt my enjoyment.

I'd be much happier if the riders weren't allowed radios, bike computers or any other form of external input whilst riding them
Not sure I agree.

The TT is a good way of breaking a team's grip on a race. Domoulin is expert at using his TT skills to work his way up the ranking, because his Sunweb team is not the strongest and he is often isolated.

Froome happens to be an excellent tester, but he's on his own out there. Yes, Ineos will prepare intensely for a TT, but so should all teams. In terms of kit, their Pinarello is a step or two behind the Canyon used by Movistar.

It means it's a real chance to mix things up. The main reason it has been a bit "dull" over recent years is that Froome is 1) a bloody good TT'er, 2) a good all round rider and 3) in the strongest GC team.

You still can't beat the 1989 TT - I still watch that on you Tube.
I'll sit right in the middle of your opinions. I particularly agree with the bit I've made bold. TT to stay, as an analytical person, I love it.

Dixie

733 posts

236 months

Thursday 13th June 2019
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Labradorofperception said:
. In terms of kit, their Pinarello is a step or two behind the Canyon used by Movistar.
What makes you think that? I'm not doubting you i'm genuinely interested. Love all the tech stuff on the bikes. smile