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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Scabutz said:
It's just a gentleman's agreement. I wonder what would happen if someone thought fk it and went for it. It's not a hard stage so would require someone to go on a solo attack on the flat which isn't easy and presumably the peloton would shut it down. But if it did work they would have to honour it. Although i imagine the person doing it would be very un-popular.
Not sure anyone who was in GC contention could gain much more than a few seconds if they decided to race on the last day. Their rivals would go with them, and sit on their wheel until they cracked.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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mstrbkr said:
Scabutz said:
It's just a gentleman's agreement. I wonder what would happen if someone thought fk it and went for it. It's not a hard stage so would require someone to go on a solo attack on the flat which isn't easy and presumably the peloton would shut it down. But if it did work they would have to honour it. Although i imagine the person doing it would be very un-popular.
Not sure anyone who was in GC contention could gain much more than a few seconds if they decided to race on the last day. Their rivals would go with them, and sit on their wheel until they cracked.
Exactly this, it’s a gentleman’s agreement born from the fact it’s a pretty pointless exercise to try to break against your rivals on the flat.

thegreenhell

15,444 posts

220 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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It wouldn't just be your GC rivals and their teams that you'd have to outrun. You'd have pretty much the whole field flat out behind you, as all the sprinters' teams would be trying to bring it back to a sprint finish for the final, prestigious stage win. We often see small breakaways trying it on around the streets of Paris, but they rarely get very far before being swallowed up again by the hunting pack. The long straights of the Champs-Elysees make it very hard to get out of sight of the poursuivants.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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The breaks on the Champs-Elysees are pretty much the tradition too, you’ll always get them, last bit of prime time for some of lower teams who may not have featured much.

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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So what happens if the leader has a bad crash or bike failure and can't continue or lose a bunch of time.
I assume they no longer win the race, the gentleman's agreement can't go that far surely?

SydneyBridge

8,648 posts

159 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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I would assume the winner would win, whatever happened. The only thing of relevence is the sprint winner of the final stage

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

97 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Well what a superb tour. Worked at home quite a lot in the last fortnight, so despite missing most of the first week I've been lucky enough to be able to have the coverage on in the background more often than not. Gutted it's coming to an end.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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SydneyBridge said:
I would assume the winner would win, whatever happened. The only thing of relevence is the sprint winner of the final stage
GC leader still needs to finish the race and maintain the time gap otherwise they’d most definitely lose!

Hence why we just saw G and the rest of Ineos guiding Bernal through the craziness of the last few laps.

thegreenhell

15,444 posts

220 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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toastyhamster said:
Well what a superb tour. Worked at home quite a lot in the last fortnight, so despite missing most of the first week I've been lucky enough to be able to have the coverage on in the background more often than not. Gutted it's coming to an end.
Indeed, it's going to be odd for the next three days having no cricket or cycling to watch.

over_the_hill

3,189 posts

247 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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K50 DEL said:
So what happens if the leader has a bad crash or bike failure and can't continue or lose a bunch of time.
I assume they no longer win the race, the gentleman's agreement can't go that far surely?
Matt_N said:
SydneyBridge said:
I would assume the winner would win, whatever happened. The only thing of relevence is the sprint winner of the final stage
GC leader still needs to finish the race and maintain the time gap otherwise they’d most definitely lose!

Hence why we just saw G and the rest of Ineos guiding Bernal through the craziness of the last few laps.
The leader is usually surrounded by his team offering close support. In the event of a mechanical a new bike would be in from the team car PDQ or failing that a team mate would give up their bike to keep the leader going until the team car could arrive.

Once inside the final 3k you get the same time as the group you were with in the event of a crash or mechanical - hence the collective sigh of relief at 3k to go.

If a crash was caused by another rider and it brought down the leader then their cycling career may well be shorter than anticipated, so no one would take risks around the GC leader.


Was it just me or was the ITV4 love-in over Bernal and Columbia a bit too cringeworthy (not taking anything away from his performance though)



Katzenjammer

1,085 posts

179 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Bernal did well, though he might have benefited slightly from a lack of a long, flat TT this year. I think his win is great, but it may not be such good news for Eddie Dunbar's ambitions of becoming a TdeF contender with Ineos.


BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Just caught up with ITV’s highlights show for the final stage.

Great interview with Geraint Thomas post race, where he jokingly said when he’s 45yo and fat, sitting in a pub watching Egan Bernal winning his 10th Tour, ‘I taught him everything he knows’.

For 2020, unless the TdF organiser decides to ‘gift’ Froome his fifth win, perhaps by designing a Tour with two (long) TTs etc, Bernal will be hard to stop.

Antoniusbuche

835 posts

130 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Bernal is actually a pretty good TT-er; he just had an 'off day'; he beat Roglic in the ITT at Romandie last year, and has been National TT Champ.

I have to admit, I don't like them designing routes to favour/ stop teams/ riders. The lack of TT kms in recent Tours is poor; and mainly because Bardet & Pinot are lacking in this skill.

However, roll on the weekend and the Classica San Sebastian, plus Ride London, and the MTB World Cup in Val de Sole.

mcelliott

8,680 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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Remco Eevenpoel wins the Classica San Sebastian, aged 19, wtf!

Highway Star

3,576 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd August 2019
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Even Eddy Merckx has said 'he's the next Eddy Merckx'.

S1KRR

12,548 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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over_the_hill said:
Was it just me or was the ITV4 love-in over Bernal and Columbia a bit too cringeworthy (not taking anything away from his performance though)
It was an unexpected story, so I can understand the level of coverage of it. Especially given he's the youngest for 110 years and he's the first Columbian.

What I find more grating on ITV4s coverage is Matt Rendellls fawning over Peter Sagan. You an see even Sagan is embarrassed by it laugh

Highway Star

3,576 posts

232 months

Monday 5th August 2019
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Terrible news about the passing of Bjorg Lambrecht at the Tour of Poland today. RIP, I enjoyed watching him develop this season, he was showing signs he would've been a top rider for hilly classics.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th August 2019
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Highway Star said:
Terrible news about the passing of Bjorg Lambrecht at the Tour of Poland today. RIP, I enjoyed watching him develop this season, he was showing signs he would've been a top rider for hilly classics.
Very sad indeed. Only 22 and quite some palmares already.

Don1

15,952 posts

209 months

Monday 5th August 2019
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Jesus. What happened?

Scabutz

7,655 posts

81 months

Monday 5th August 2019
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Don1 said:
Jesus. What happened?
Crashed, taken to hospital. Died whilst they were operating. Not sure how the crash happened.

Terrible. I had never heard if him, but its horrible to hear. 22 is no age at all.