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WantSagaris

236 posts

48 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Tom Pidcock on course to be the first MTB World Cup winner in 27 years, MVP in 2nd atm. Its currently free to air on Red Bull website.

mcelliott

8,676 posts

182 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Well that's a pretty epic finish.


WantSagaris

236 posts

48 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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He just won. Outrageous

ALawson

7,815 posts

252 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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frisbee said:
Matej Mohoric. His forks snapped during the crash but it look like they failed after he came off the bike.
Yea, forks snapped on the second bounce.

Love the way they got a replacement bike ready, I think when he couldn’t get the Garmin on the mount they may have decided to give him the concussion once over.


DeltonaS

3,707 posts

139 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Interesting times in cycling, it increasingly seems that Pidcock is joining Vd Poel and Van Aart.

While Vd Poel won the MTB sprintrace yesterday in the Czech Republic, it was Pidcock who won the main event today with Vd Poel in 2nd.

These guys really can win anything if it involves a bike.

ArnageWRC

2,066 posts

160 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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He looks like he could be hard to beat; he's demonstrated in just two XCO races that he's probably the best climber out there - his light weight, as well as decent power, then add in his descending and technical ability - he's an all round package. MvdP is approx 15-20 kg heavier - longish climbs aren't his friend.

Will be interesting to see what happens next with his programme; the Olympics look possible/likely - and the World Champs in Val di Sole in August; though he's a possible for the Vuelta as well, which also takes place in August-September.

WantSagaris

236 posts

48 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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I think GC Grant Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.

frisbee

4,980 posts

111 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
I think GC Grant Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.

ArnageWRC

2,066 posts

160 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
I think GC Grand Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.
Yes, I agree; he won 3 of the 5 XCO races he competed in, plus the European title - and finished 2nd in the World Cup despite missing 2 rounds (Andorra, Snowshoe). He was surely nailed on for a medal, if not the Gold, but skipped them for the Roads......

WantSagaris

236 posts

48 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.

WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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In the interview afterwards Pidcock did say something like "he was born for MTB'ing", how much of a choice in it he has I don't know.

If he did become world MTB champ I guess Ineo would be happy as they could add that to their portfolio of cycling achievements. He has time on his side anyway.

mooseracer

1,901 posts

171 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Back over in Italy - some display from Bernal to win the stage. Would love to see his power figures for the gravel section.

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

40 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Love watching the Giro, but Sean Kelly's voice...

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Anonymous-poster

12,241 posts

207 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.
The “public” who watch Wimbledon And the TDF but nothing else but are fans!

Parsnip

3,122 posts

189 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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mooseracer said:
Back over in Italy - some display from Bernal to win the stage. Would love to see his power figures for the gravel section.


Not quite as enormous as I thought it would be, seeing as he made everyone else look like they had their brakes jammed on, but 560W over that length of time, on gravel, is pretty handy from someone who weights about the same as a bag of Quavers.

Worth following Velon.cc on Instagram - they do the on bike footage and power data and usually have good things worth looking at. It's always good to see Ganna's numbers for a laugh.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

203 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Ganna’s stats from the ITT were ridiculous hehe, looking forward to seeing what he does on the last stage ITT.

mcelliott

8,676 posts

182 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Kes Arevo said:
Love watching the Giro, but Sean Kelly's voice...

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The only man ever to have nodded in a radio interview

mooseracer

1,901 posts

171 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Thanks for the tip about Velon

frisbee

4,980 posts

111 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.
He's been right up there at the end of some of the really long single day races, Milan San Remo at 300km etc.. I would class that as endurance.

Whether he has the recovery for a 3 week tour is another thing, however Pogacar and Bernal (and possibly Evenepoel) have overturned the traditional late 20s to start going for GC approach.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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That was mightily impressive from Sagan today.

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