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Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Did anyone watch ‘The Edge’. I haven’t seen that before. Great documentary.

Amazing how Flower was both a genius and a ruthless person.

FiF

44,116 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Not yet, downloaded for later, gets a 4 star review in the Telegraph. Sounds as if there are some genuine LoL moments over reactions to Flower's uncompromising approach and language.

SydneyBridge

8,628 posts

159 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Yes, it was excellent, certainly warts and all..

I wonder how long KP would have played for if things had been different? Arrogant dick but bloody amazing player, such talent

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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SydneyBridge said:
Yes, it was excellent, certainly warts and all..

I wonder how long KP would have played for if things had been different? Arrogant dick but bloody amazing player, such talent
But not just KP suffering under that regime.

Prior, Finn and Trott all suffered with the constant grind. I think KP raised fair points.

Surprising to see a few plaers admit to just breaking down in tears.

What was also deliciously clear was that there really was no love between the bowlers and the batters of that team.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

47 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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It is a fabulous insight, I feel genuinely sorry for Trott, the pressure put on the players then was staggering. And the KP Sky thing, his rhino stuff and this have also showed me a different side to him.

As he says, properly managed he would have been fine, should never have been captain like Fred, but there was no better batsmen, yes he could be a liability, but on his day unplayable. He should have been managed better, either forced contractually to not do IPL or 20/20, or taken from the test team.

I think the selectors and management bowed down too much to Broad who seems to come across even now as a bit of a snot nose bully, and especially Swann and the keeper (forgot his name sorry) who is clearly on the defensive a lot in both films and is not seen much.

Cheib

23,274 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Gargamel said:
SydneyBridge said:
Yes, it was excellent, certainly warts and all..

I wonder how long KP would have played for if things had been different? Arrogant dick but bloody amazing player, such talent
But not just KP suffering under that regime.

Prior, Finn and Trott all suffered with the constant grind. I think KP raised fair points.

Surprising to see a few plaers admit to just breaking down in tears.

What was also deliciously clear was that there really was no love between the bowlers and the batters of that team.
I think people perhaps forget with cricket that it means far more financially to a red ball cricketer to get picked for his country than it does in almost any other team sport. You go from making a living to actually being able to make enough money to get some kind of financial security when you’ve finished playing. So for someone like Trott who was relatively late to international cricket and was never going to be an IPL pick that England central contract was a huge difference to him.

So not just the pressure to perform from a sporting perspective but also serious financial pressure too.

Legend83

9,986 posts

223 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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What platform can this be watched on?

SydneyBridge

8,628 posts

159 months

Stellartois

145 posts

120 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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It seemed odd at the time how Swann retired, mid tour, when the going got tough and all these years on it still smacks of a lack of character when his country really needed him

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Today's T20 between England and Pakistan is being shown live on BBC1!

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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First time this century.

Black can man

31,840 posts

169 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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thegreenhell said:
Today's T20 between England and Pakistan is being shown live on BBC1!
Good to see this .

pequod

8,997 posts

139 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Black can man said:
thegreenhell said:
Today's T20 between England and Pakistan is being shown live on BBC1!
Good to see this .
It won't last, and to be honest, I would financially support the TMS broadcast on LW radio above the televising of cricket on free to air TV, as I have enjoyed (and still do) listening to the TMS commentary even when sat in harbour 'en france', and when sailing down the Channel! Nothing betters the experience of listening to cricket whilst sailing along, IME?

Good win by England BTW. Sadly, the 3rd match on Tuesday may be weather affected, which is a shame.

Edited by pequod on Monday 31st August 19:32

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Root dropped for the Aussie T20’s

Sunday Afternoon, 2nd match one the BBC

Good news.


pequod

8,997 posts

139 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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The England Test captain needs to concentrate on the 'long' game and not getting involved in T20 matches. One day international matches is all the limited overs practice he needs and aside from the County stuff, we cannot risk him getting injured or loosing form prior to the ashes series.

I hope the weather gods will be kind for the forthcoming matches against Australia?

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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Gargamel said:
Root dropped for the Aussie T20’s

Sunday Afternoon, 2nd match one the BBC

Good news.
I quite like the enforced separation of the Test and limited overs formats, it is giving quite a few new or fringe players a decent runout. I really enjoyed yesterday's T20, especially as I thought Pakistan batted rather well against some rather erratic bowling, so our boys did well to turn that around. Root could stand to learn a lot from Eoin Morgan in terms of body language. Morgan exudes confidence and looks every inch the captain, Root often looks despondent or nervous to me, especially when wickets aren't falling.

Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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warch said:
Gargamel said:
Root dropped for the Aussie T20’s

Sunday Afternoon, 2nd match one the BBC

Good news.
I quite like the enforced separation of the Test and limited overs formats, it is giving quite a few new or fringe players a decent runout. I really enjoyed yesterday's T20, especially as I thought Pakistan batted rather well against some rather erratic bowling, so our boys did well to turn that around. Root could stand to learn a lot from Eoin Morgan in terms of body language. Morgan exudes confidence and looks every inch the captain, Root often looks despondent or nervous to me, especially when wickets aren't falling.
You make a good point re Root--still don't think he's the man for the job.

spikeyhead

17,336 posts

198 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Stan the Bat said:
warch said:
Gargamel said:
Root dropped for the Aussie T20’s

Sunday Afternoon, 2nd match one the BBC

Good news.
I quite like the enforced separation of the Test and limited overs formats, it is giving quite a few new or fringe players a decent runout. I really enjoyed yesterday's T20, especially as I thought Pakistan batted rather well against some rather erratic bowling, so our boys did well to turn that around. Root could stand to learn a lot from Eoin Morgan in terms of body language. Morgan exudes confidence and looks every inch the captain, Root often looks despondent or nervous to me, especially when wickets aren't falling.
You make a good point re Root--still don't think he's the man for the job.
He's not, but he's the only potential candidate at the moment.

Black can man

31,840 posts

169 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Very sad to read that David Capel has died.



Only 57 .



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54001672

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Black can man said:
Very sad to read that David Capel has died.



Only 57 .



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54001672
Very sad news indeed. frown