General cricket thread

[Square Leg]

Had an interesting Saturday…

I wasn’t playing but went along to watch our 3rds play - they needed a good win against second in the league to stay in contention of promotion.

One of our guys pulled his groin batting, and as I had my kit still in the car from a mid week game I offered to field for them.
Offer duly accepted.

I tend to field at slip or gully (being fairly older than the rest of the team..) and took a decent over head catch behind me.
Later, at slip a ball fizzed off the bat, I got low down to scoop it up but it reared violently and smashed into my eye.
So, I now have a fractured cheek/ socket and several weeks out of the game.

It’s a year go this week on the same ground that I ruptured my Achilles whilst batting.
Someone’s trying to tell me something I’m sure

Anyway, we won the game comfortably.

[andyA700]

Has anyone been watching the women's cricket, because I was catching up with it today and unlike the women's Euros football, which I think has been a high standard, I am not impressed with the cricket - bad batting and fielding technique, some quite friendly bowling, not what I expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONoGGM9-wY

[Smollet]

andyA700 said:

Has anyone been watching the women's cricket, because I was catching up with it today and unlike the women's Euros football, which I think has been a high standard, I am not impressed with the cricket - bad batting and fielding technique, some quite friendly bowling, not what I expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONoGGM9-wY

I’m not into football at all but the brief bits I’ve seen the woman’s version is far more watchable than the male one. The same can’t be said about cricket atm.

[Scabutz]

Anyone re taken up cricket later in life? In my teens I was a pretty good swing bowler. I lost interest partly because there was only an U16 team and I was 13 so playing against kids 2-3 years older than me which was hard. Plus my knob head brother was captain and would frequently put himself on to bowl instead of me, despite him being an absolutely ste bowler.

Loads of clubs near me now so spoilt for choice. But I've not bowled a ball for 26 years. Wondering if I should hire a net to myself and bowl a few before going along to a session with a club. They seem to go about 25 quid for an hour.

I'm quite keen to do it, but also I'm autistic and social environments are quite hard work for me, throughout my adult life I have chosen solitary sports for that reason.

Not sure what I'm asking really, other than maybe some encouragement.

I don't have any kit but I was never much of a batsmen so a cheap bat will be fine and some basic pads. Do people wear studs or are trainers OK?

[Active75]

Scabutz said:

Anyone re taken up cricket later in life? In my teens I was a pretty good swing bowler. I lost interest partly because there was only an U16 team and I was 13 so playing against kids 2-3 years older than me which was hard. Plus my knob head brother was captain and would frequently put himself on to bowl instead of me, despite him being an absolutely ste bowler.

Loads of clubs near me now so spoilt for choice. But I've not bowled a ball for 26 years. Wondering if I should hire a net to myself and bowl a few before going along to a session with a club. They seem to go about 25 quid for an hour.

I'm quite keen to do it, but also I'm autistic and social environments are quite hard work for me, throughout my adult life I have chosen solitary sports for that reason.

Not sure what I'm asking really, other than maybe some encouragement.

I don't have any kit but I was never much of a batsmen so a cheap bat will be fine and some basic pads. Do people wear studs or are trainers OK?

Hi, I recently retired from playing after many years. Wish I was younger and could do it all again!
I think your best option it to find the nearest club to you and go along maybe with a friend? As you know, cricket is a team sport, so you will be chatting and talking to your fellow players as well as playing. If thats all OK, find the captain, ask if you can join the net evening in the week. see how you go. Thats it really.
All the best.

[markh1973]

Scabutz said:

Anyone re taken up cricket later in life? In my teens I was a pretty good swing bowler. I lost interest partly because there was only an U16 team and I was 13 so playing against kids 2-3 years older than me which was hard. Plus my knob head brother was captain and would frequently put himself on to bowl instead of me, despite him being an absolutely ste bowler.

Loads of clubs near me now so spoilt for choice. But I've not bowled a ball for 26 years. Wondering if I should hire a net to myself and bowl a few before going along to a session with a club. They seem to go about 25 quid for an hour.

I'm quite keen to do it, but also I'm autistic and social environments are quite hard work for me, throughout my adult life I have chosen solitary sports for that reason.

Not sure what I'm asking really, other than maybe some encouragement.

I don't have any kit but I was never much of a batsmen so a cheap bat will be fine and some basic pads. Do people wear studs or are trainers OK?

I’ve started playing again this summer 33 years or so after I last played. My son plays with the U15s so I’ve got to know a few people that way. Last Saturday we had 4 of the U15 lads and their respective dads playing in the 3rd XI. Kids performed well, us less so. Then Sunday I played with my son for the Sunday friendly side.

I’ve loved getting involved so find a local club and give it a go.

[andyA700]

Scabutz said:

Anyone re taken up cricket later in life? In my teens I was a pretty good swing bowler. I lost interest partly because there was only an U16 team and I was 13 so playing against kids 2-3 years older than me which was hard. Plus my knob head brother was captain and would frequently put himself on to bowl instead of me, despite him being an absolutely ste bowler.

Loads of clubs near me now so spoilt for choice. But I've not bowled a ball for 26 years. Wondering if I should hire a net to myself and bowl a few before going along to a session with a club. They seem to go about 25 quid for an hour.

I'm quite keen to do it, but also I'm autistic and social environments are quite hard work for me, throughout my adult life I have chosen solitary sports for that reason.

Not sure what I'm asking really, other than maybe some encouragement.

I don't have any kit but I was never much of a batsmen so a cheap bat will be fine and some basic pads. Do people wear studs or are trainers OK?

I played my last game back in 2010 when I was 52. It didn;t go too badly, opened the bowling and took a wicket with my fourth ball, then a couple more. I found the batting more difficult, timing the ball was definitely off. I was very sore the next day. I wore cricket shoes with the normal steel spikes, wouldn't consider anything else, having gone A over T on a green wicket many years ago, whilst wearing "comfortable " trainers.
I really miss the game now, such a brilliant social sport, you get to travel to different grounds around the county, relax in lovely country pubs which serve great beer - cricketers always know the best pubs.

[GloverMart]

andyA700 said:

I played my last game back in 2010 when I was 52. It didn;t go too badly, opened the bowling and took a wicket with my fourth ball, then a couple more. I found the batting more difficult, timing the ball was definitely off. I was very sore the next day. I wore cricket shoes with the normal steel spikes, wouldn't consider anything else, having gone A over T on a green wicket many years ago, whilst wearing "comfortable " trainers.
I really miss the game now, such a brilliant social sport, you get to travel to different grounds around the county, relax in lovely country pubs which serve great beer - cricketers always know the best pubs.

Could you not play vets cricket, Andy?

[andyA700]

GloverMart said:

andyA700 said:

I played my last game back in 2010 when I was 52. It didn;t go too badly, opened the bowling and took a wicket with my fourth ball, then a couple more. I found the batting more difficult, timing the ball was definitely off. I was very sore the next day. I wore cricket shoes with the normal steel spikes, wouldn't consider anything else, having gone A over T on a green wicket many years ago, whilst wearing "comfortable " trainers.
I really miss the game now, such a brilliant social sport, you get to travel to different grounds around the county, relax in lovely country pubs which serve great beer - cricketers always know the best pubs.

Could you not play vets cricket, Andy?

I didn't know it existed. I have a few medical problems (From last year when I had my first jab) which have affected my joints and grip strength, but I can still go for ten mile walks, so shouldn't beat myself up too much. I still have all the gear in a holdall in the cellar. I suppose I could go to the nearest nets, put the stumps up and turn my arm over and see what happens. If nothing else it could be a bit of exercise, might encourage the missus to do it as well.

[Scabutz]

Thanks Chaps. I've emailed one of the clubs. They have a few Saturday squads so choice of skill level and couple of the squads play at the best ground locally.

Also found a place locally with indoor nets and one on one coaching. Would like a couple of sessions to bowl some balls and face some with the bat.

Quick question about bats. Where in the budget range should I be looking? I won't say money is no object but I'm selling my triathlon bike so will have good few pennies to play with. Also I'm not much of a batter so fetching up with Jonny Bairstows bat will look a little silly.

[Square Leg]

Great game yesterday.

Since fracturing my eye socket 3 weeks ago I haven’t played.
Due to holidays, football etc I was 12th man for our 4ths who were pushing for promotion (dually done now).
So I was asked to umpire instead.
Late call on Friday had me in to the 2nd team instead who are quite a few divisions above, due to late pull outs.

So, fielding for 45 overs in 35c heat took it out of me a little.
We were chasing 235.
The opposition needed to win this match to stay on course for promotion

With six overs left it was up to me (53 years old, with one eye and a dodgy Achilles …) and a 14 year old who has never played higher Saturday cricket than the lowest division.
We needed 36 to win off six overs - it was more of a ‘go and enjoy yourself’ than a ‘go and win it’.

The opposition were so desperate their bowler was Mankading this young lad, who showed calmness way above his years, we tapped it about, bit of nurdling here and there, and he hit the winning runs for a four.
What a great day, all 4 of our teams winning.

[Dermot O'Logical]

Scabutz said:

Thanks Chaps. I've emailed one of the clubs. They have a few Saturday squads so choice of skill level and couple of the squads play at the best ground locally.

Also found a place locally with indoor nets and one on one coaching. Would like a couple of sessions to bowl some balls and face some with the bat.

Quick question about bats. Where in the budget range should I be looking? I won't say money is no object but I'm selling my triathlon bike so will have good few pennies to play with. Also I'm not much of a batter so fetching up with Jonny Bairstows bat will look a little silly.

As always, it's worth spending a bit more to get a decent bat - English willow rather than one made with willow from Asia, for example. My son used a couple of budget Slazenger bats for a while, I bought him a Kookaburra Beast for his Christmas/birthday present, and I'm told that the difference is night and day. The Slazengers have been relegated to net practice use, the Kookaburra is now his match bat.

If you're anywhere near Hampshire, try Dummer Cricket Centre. They have an excellent shop with a good range of bats, and offer a knocking-in service, re-gripping, face protectors etc.

[Leins]

Sorry for Daily Mail article, about India women’s “controversial” run-out: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-...

Now it’s a good few years since I played, but it was always drilled into me when backing-up to be very mindful of the bowler’s intentions. If anyone had been removed in this way, the blame would squarely have been on them for not being careful enough and having travelled too far down the crease

For me this is all part of the game, and makes it more interesting. Perhaps I’m out of touch though?

[Gargamel]

Since I am in the sport as entertainment camp, I think the Indian player robbed the crowd of an exciting finish.

Game was really well set up and personally I think a warning should be given first, but its in the laws and really the bat is stealing ground.

[Leithen]

One thing's for certain - every Indian non striking batter will need to be keeping their bat in their crease until the ball is delivered for a while. Open season from the first ball, with no room for any complaints.

[Dermot O'Logical]

Gargamel said:

Since I am in the sport as entertainment camp, I think the Indian player robbed the crowd of an exciting finish.

Game was really well set up and personally I think a warning should be given first, but its in the laws and really the bat is stealing ground.

I agree. While the laws of the game weren't broken, the spirit definitely was.

As I watched the incident, I noticed that the umpire, Martin Saggers, crossed his arms in front of him, giving the "dead ball" signal as soon as Deepti Sharma stopped in her delivery stride - surely, as soon as the umpire signals "dead ball", it can't be used to break the stumps, and the batter cannot be "out".

The law needs to be clarified, and amended - the bowler should give the batter a warning, in front of the umpire, of their intention to "Mankad" the batter if he/she is out of her ground.

But, as this incident benefitted India, who control the game at the World level, it won't happen.

[nicanary]

I've never seen it actually happen before. In junior club cricket it's usually used just as a warning and never carried out. Unsportsmanlike conduct. I agree - India could see the match slipping away.

[FiF]

Dermot O'Logical said:

Gargamel said:

Since I am in the sport as entertainment camp, I think the Indian player robbed the crowd of an exciting finish.

Game was really well set up and personally I think a warning should be given first, but its in the laws and really the bat is stealing ground.

I agree. While the laws of the game weren't broken, the spirit definitely was.

As I watched the incident, I noticed that the umpire, Martin Saggers, crossed his arms in front of him, giving the "dead ball" signal as soon as Deepti Sharma stopped in her delivery stride - surely, as soon as the umpire signals "dead ball", it can't be used to break the stumps, and the batter cannot be "out".

The law needs to be clarified, and amended - the bowler should give the batter a warning, in front of the umpire, of their intention to "Mankad" the batter if he/she is out of her ground.

But, as this incident benefitted India, who control the game at the World level, it won't happen.

I thought umpire had begun the dead ball signal before the bails were removed. Which suggests it should have been not out.

Watch the action, the batter was still in her ground as the front foot was landing, then observe where Sharma was looking, certainly not looking where she intended to bowl. You can argue the timing but as soon as she stopped the delivery then to my mind ball was dead as that was after the point she would have been expected to release the ball.

41.16.1:"If the non-striker is out of his/her ground at any time from the moment the ball comes into play until the instant when the bowler would "normally have been expected to release the ball", the non-striker is liable to be Run out.

I didn't watch the match live so can't comment how much backing up had been going on in earlier deliveries. But the correct thing would have been a warning and then fair game.

It wasn't as if the series depended upon it. Zero respect for India, and even less respect for the India fans citing that fluke 6 in the World Cup final when the return hit Stokes bat and cannoned off to the boundary. Not even close to equivalent, Stokes tried to get those extra runs discounted, it would have been equivalent if the Indian skipper had tried to withdraw the appeal but umps decided not to allow that. Bah. Humbug.

[lowdrag]

It was a gentleman's agreement that a warning should first be given in my day, In this case it wasn't but that doesn't change the rules of the game, just the attitude. But she was a long way out of her crease - several yards I'd say from memory.

[FiF]

https://youtu.be/duZA9JlSZaM

Fractionally out of crease when delivery stride is completed. Also note umpire starting the dead ball signal as Sharmi walks back to remove bails. But at point bails removed yes several yards out.

Difficult decision, terrible cricket though.