The Swimming Thread - Pool/OW

The Swimming Thread - Pool/OW

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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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mcelliott said:
Stil swimming, haven't missed a day yet, sea temp down to about 9 or 10 degrees so only in for about 15 minutes a session.
My reservoir was 7c for my swim this morning but the south coast of England (by hove) was 10c on Thursday when I was swimming there.

I think it’s end of jan - feb when the sea gets its coldest in the U.K. it’s seems relatively warm still this year, I think. A bloke I was talking to reckoned it got down to 5c at Brighton in beginning of Feb last year but if it’s 10c at the moment it looks like a long way to go?

Open water is still really popular around my way this year. Starting to see the odd person get into trouble though who haven’t really prepared properly for the cold and have maybe stayed in too long for them.

I’ve been acclimatising during the year and am ok for 3k in the sea or so still depending on how I feel but doing less in the reservoir where it’s colder.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I'm so grateful for lidos being open although breathing centimetres from someone's face is the same indoors or out. I'm feeling a bit ropey, but always get a bad chest with swimming, not that I want to be a martyr to the restrictions/ contradictions.

I didn't know those swimming specific robes were a thing but now I must have one, as I'll also be walking the 30 seconds back from my local pool without drying and dressing when they reopen.

EDIT: They are 100 quid?!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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R Mutt said:
I'm so grateful for lidos being open although breathing centimetres from someone's face is the same indoors or out. I'm feeling a bit ropey, but always get a bad chest with swimming, not that I want to be a martyr to the restrictions/ contradictions.

I didn't know those swimming specific robes were a thing but now I must have one, as I'll also be walking the 30 seconds back from my local pool without drying and dressing when they reopen.

EDIT: They are 100 quid?!
Dryrobes?

Good luck trying to order one too. hehe

hyperblue

2,800 posts

180 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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El stovey said:
R Mutt said:
I'm so grateful for lidos being open although breathing centimetres from someone's face is the same indoors or out. I'm feeling a bit ropey, but always get a bad chest with swimming, not that I want to be a martyr to the restrictions/ contradictions.

I didn't know those swimming specific robes were a thing but now I must have one, as I'll also be walking the 30 seconds back from my local pool without drying and dressing when they reopen.

EDIT: They are 100 quid?!
Dryrobes?

Good luck trying to order one too. hehe
Must've been popular Xmas presents, spotted quite a few dry robes being worn as a coat on the seafront yesterday - no signs the wearers had been or were going to go for a swim, which has put me off buying one somewhat!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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hyperblue said:
El stovey said:
R Mutt said:
I'm so grateful for lidos being open although breathing centimetres from someone's face is the same indoors or out. I'm feeling a bit ropey, but always get a bad chest with swimming, not that I want to be a martyr to the restrictions/ contradictions.

I didn't know those swimming specific robes were a thing but now I must have one, as I'll also be walking the 30 seconds back from my local pool without drying and dressing when they reopen.

EDIT: They are 100 quid?!
Dryrobes?

Good luck trying to order one too. hehe
Must've been popular Xmas presents, spotted quite a few dry robes being worn as a coat on the seafront yesterday - no signs the wearers had been or were going to go for a swim, which has put me off buying one somewhat!
I think they we’re sold out everywhere before Christmas tbh.

They’re fantastic for putting on after an outside swim in winter or getting changed in etc but not sure I’d wear mine for anything else.

I often get out of the sea and put it on and drive home in it. For me it’s a purely functional thing and a bit rank after a while tbh.

Anti dry robe signs are appearing all over the place, they seem to be upsetting people hehe

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/south-d...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/25/shiv...





R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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El stovey said:
I think they we’re sold out everywhere before Christmas tbh.

They’re fantastic for putting on after an outside swim in winter or getting changed in etc but not sure I’d wear mine for anything else.

I often get out of the sea and put it on and drive home in it. For me it’s a purely functional thing and a bit rank after a while tbh.

Anti dry robe signs are appearing all over the place, they seem to be upsetting people hehe

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/south-d...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/25/shiv...
Haha. I can see it's a bit 'all the gear no idea' but a strange brand of snobbery as imagine many 'newbies' have embraced outdoor swimming with lockdowns. I'd definitely get robe on, trunks off and jump in the car, although I'd just get a hood dressing gown though if I saw one which looked slightly more respectable and not like I'd gone out in pyjamas

Edited by R Mutt on Tuesday 29th December 07:25

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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R Mutt said:
El stovey said:
I think they we’re sold out everywhere before Christmas tbh.

They’re fantastic for putting on after an outside swim in winter or getting changed in etc but not sure I’d wear mine for anything else.

I often get out of the sea and put it on and drive home in it. For me it’s a purely functional thing and a bit rank after a while tbh.

Anti dry robe signs are appearing all over the place, they seem to be upsetting people hehe

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/south-d...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/25/shiv...
Haha. I can see it's a bit 'all the gear no idea' but a strange brand of snobbery as imagine many 'newbies' have embraced outdoor swimming with lockdowns. I'd definitely get robe on, trunks off and jump in the car, although I'd just get a hood dressing gown though if I saw one which looked slightly more respectable and not like I'd gone out in pyjamas

Edited by R Mutt on Tuesday 29th December 07:25
You can definitely get cheaper towel robes etc than a dryrobe. What makes a dry robe more expensive is the material inside which wicks water away from your body (or whatever you’re swimming in) and the robe itself stays relatively dry, plus how warm (and waterproof) they are.

Sometimes I get out of the sea in a wetsuit, gloves boots etc and wrap up in it and drive home in it with my wetsuit etc on underneath and everything stays dry in the car. When it’s under 10c in the water and it’s 2c outside then for me it works, I see most people get changed inside theirs which I’ve done but find it all a bit of a faf so I just head off and jump into the shower in my wetsuit and rinse off etc at home.

I’ve driven home in all sorts of weird combos this year since covid started and changing rooms have been closed. There’s an old woman who was driving home on a scooter in a wetsuit from my local reservoir during summer. hehe

I expect it all depends on where you’re swimming, how close you can park to the water and what you’re wearing etc.

Like I said though, for me it’s for putting on when you’re wet and cold, I wouldn’t dream of wearing it for anything else.

You go down to the coast and loads of people are walking around in them. My wife came down with me recently as she thinks I’m in some weird winter swimming sex club where we all meet up in car parks by lakes around the country. She thought it was hilarious seeing everyone in dryrobes or just getting changed on the beach in front of everyone.

Britain is full of these fantastic little subcultures and open water swimming (especially in winter) is definitely one of them.

What I’ve seen this year is a huge increase in people (especially at the seaside) who are just having a dip as opposed to a swim where they’re going in just in skins but sometimes with boots and gloves and a woolly hat and not staying in very long. It’s all about being in the cold water and mental health benefits. I think covid has kick started this historically popular pastime but people want to keep doing it through the winter more for the experience and benefits of being in cold water than actually having a longer swim.

Many of the reservoirs and lakes that had outdoor swimming in the summer only are staying open through the winter for the first time this year and managing to stay open even in stricter lockdowns and tier 4. Obviously the sea is always open and free for whoever fancies getting in it when they want.

It’s fantastic to see though and hopefully it will lead to a revival of many (sometimes a bit unloved) lidos and other inland outdoor swimming spots and a general improvement of facilities.


R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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El stovey said:
You can definitely get cheaper towel robes etc than a dryrobe. What makes a dry robe more expensive is the material inside which wicks water away from your body (or whatever you’re swimming in) and the robe itself stays relatively dry, plus how warm (and waterproof) they are.

Sometimes I get out of the sea in a wetsuit, gloves boots etc and wrap up in it and drive home in it with my wetsuit etc on underneath and everything stays dry in the car. When it’s under 10c in the water and it’s 2c outside then for me it works, I see most people get changed inside theirs which I’ve done but find it all a bit of a faf so I just head off and jump into the shower in my wetsuit and rinse off etc at home.

I’ve driven home in all sorts of weird combos this year since covid started and changing rooms have been closed. There’s an old woman who was driving home on a scooter in a wetsuit from my local reservoir during summer. hehe

I expect it all depends on where you’re swimming, how close you can park to the water and what you’re wearing etc.

Like I said though, for me it’s for putting on when you’re wet and cold, I wouldn’t dream of wearing it for anything else.

You go down to the coast and loads of people are walking around in them. My wife came down with me recently as she thinks I’m in some weird winter swimming sex club where we all meet up in car parks by lakes around the country. She thought it was hilarious seeing everyone in dryrobes or just getting changed on the beach in front of everyone.

Britain is full of these fantastic little subcultures and open water swimming (especially in winter) is definitely one of them.

What I’ve seen this year is a huge increase in people (especially at the seaside) who are just having a dip as opposed to a swim where they’re going in just in skins but sometimes with boots and gloves and a woolly hat and not staying in very long. It’s all about being in the cold water and mental health benefits. I think covid has kick started this historically popular pastime but people want to keep doing it through the winter more for the experience and benefits of being in cold water than actually having a longer swim.

Many of the reservoirs and lakes that had outdoor swimming in the summer only are staying open through the winter for the first time this year and managing to stay open even in stricter lockdowns and tier 4. Obviously the sea is always open and free for whoever fancies getting in it when they want.

It’s fantastic to see though and hopefully it will lead to a revival of many (sometimes a bit unloved) lidos and other inland outdoor swimming spots and a general improvement of facilities.
Do you have details of this sex club you're not in please?

I thought I was going to die when I got out the heated lido and I'm sure I've still got a cold or something from the 23rd (unless I was already ill)

The lido is included under my gym membership which is a massive result, but I want to get myself ready for the sea in case of tighter lockdowns. I saw people a month or so ago in the sea without wetsuits. Obviously I'm softer than that. What would I need?

chandrew

979 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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R Mutt said:
El stovey said:
You can definitely get cheaper towel robes etc than a dryrobe. What makes a dry robe more expensive is the material inside which wicks water away from your body (or whatever you’re swimming in) and the robe itself stays relatively dry, plus how warm (and waterproof) they are.

Sometimes I get out of the sea in a wetsuit, gloves boots etc and wrap up in it and drive home in it with my wetsuit etc on underneath and everything stays dry in the car. When it’s under 10c in the water and it’s 2c outside then for me it works, I see most people get changed inside theirs which I’ve done but find it all a bit of a faf so I just head off and jump into the shower in my wetsuit and rinse off etc at home.

I’ve driven home in all sorts of weird combos this year since covid started and changing rooms have been closed. There’s an old woman who was driving home on a scooter in a wetsuit from my local reservoir during summer. hehe

I expect it all depends on where you’re swimming, how close you can park to the water and what you’re wearing etc.

Like I said though, for me it’s for putting on when you’re wet and cold, I wouldn’t dream of wearing it for anything else.

You go down to the coast and loads of people are walking around in them. My wife came down with me recently as she thinks I’m in some weird winter swimming sex club where we all meet up in car parks by lakes around the country. She thought it was hilarious seeing everyone in dryrobes or just getting changed on the beach in front of everyone.

Britain is full of these fantastic little subcultures and open water swimming (especially in winter) is definitely one of them.

What I’ve seen this year is a huge increase in people (especially at the seaside) who are just having a dip as opposed to a swim where they’re going in just in skins but sometimes with boots and gloves and a woolly hat and not staying in very long. It’s all about being in the cold water and mental health benefits. I think covid has kick started this historically popular pastime but people want to keep doing it through the winter more for the experience and benefits of being in cold water than actually having a longer swim.

Many of the reservoirs and lakes that had outdoor swimming in the summer only are staying open through the winter for the first time this year and managing to stay open even in stricter lockdowns and tier 4. Obviously the sea is always open and free for whoever fancies getting in it when they want.

It’s fantastic to see though and hopefully it will lead to a revival of many (sometimes a bit unloved) lidos and other inland outdoor swimming spots and a general improvement of facilities.
Do you have details of this sex club you're not in please?

I thought I was going to die when I got out the heated lido and I'm sure I've still got a cold or something from the 23rd (unless I was already ill)

The lido is included under my gym membership which is a massive result, but I want to get myself ready for the sea in case of tighter lockdowns. I saw people a month or so ago in the sea without wetsuits. Obviously I'm softer than that. What would I need?
I just use a big towelling bath robe which I get on as soon as I get out and dry off with. I have a wish for a dry robe and as a marshall we use them for treating the poor swim-runners who get hypothermia at the local race in the summer. They're brilliant things.

My routine (no wetsuit, swim until it freezes completely) is hand warmers in the shoes, hot flask of tea, big wooly hat and gloves. Get out of the water, throw on the bath robe, stick on the hat and gloves and try and get dressed in many more layers than would normally be needed ASAP. Then some tea to warm up from the inside.

I tend to spend around 15 mins swimming in cold (ice) water. I always wear a thick swim hat but don't bother with shoes / gloves. If I can't move my fingers it's a good time to get out. I walk in and stay standing on the bottom until I've regulated my breathing (splashing the face and body). Then swim, probably at a quicker tempo than I'd normally do as I want to build heat in my core. My GP and a couple of other locals dip in the river through the winter but I only go in if I can do a proper swim.

It might take 2 hours to warm up after a swim and you have to do it slowly as the arms and legs will be full of cold blood at first which you don't want to rush into the core. Hence jumping in a hot shower is probably a bad idea.

In the end it's just about training your body to get used to it. For me that means start in the summer and try and go daily until it freezes. Now I'm looking out at the lake at people walking on it and swimming has disappeared until April but I look forward to the day when a hole appears and I can get back in.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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chandrew said:
I just use a big towelling bath robe which I get on as soon as I get out and dry off with. I have a wish for a dry robe and as a marshall we use them for treating the poor swim-runners who get hypothermia at the local race in the summer. They're brilliant things.

My routine (no wetsuit, swim until it freezes completely) is hand warmers in the shoes, hot flask of tea, big wooly hat and gloves. Get out of the water, throw on the bath robe, stick on the hat and gloves and try and get dressed in many more layers than would normally be needed ASAP. Then some tea to warm up from the inside.

I tend to spend around 15 mins swimming in cold (ice) water. I always wear a thick swim hat but don't bother with shoes / gloves. If I can't move my fingers it's a good time to get out. I walk in and stay standing on the bottom until I've regulated my breathing (splashing the face and body). Then swim, probably at a quicker tempo than I'd normally do as I want to build heat in my core. My GP and a couple of other locals dip in the river through the winter but I only go in if I can do a proper swim.

It might take 2 hours to warm up after a swim and you have to do it slowly as the arms and legs will be full of cold blood at first which you don't want to rush into the core. Hence jumping in a hot shower is probably a bad idea.

In the end it's just about training your body to get used to it. For me that means start in the summer and try and go daily until it freezes. Now I'm looking out at the lake at people walking on it and swimming has disappeared until April but I look forward to the day when a hole appears and I can get back in.
Nice one mate. I'll keep at the lido until such time as I can get a safe beginners wild cold swim in the Spring and train myself for next Winter!

mcelliott

8,665 posts

181 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Going in for my first sub zero swim today, my mum is coming too, no gloves or shoes and she is 86!

zax

1,009 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th January 2021
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I figured I would post here rather than start a new thread - any useful tips for improving breaststroke? Particularly the kick, mine seems particularly weak. Also how to optimize my stroke for speed if my head needs to remain above the water? I find my shoulders tend to act like a big water brake smile

Tenuous link to the previous posts about cold but the reason I need to swim breaststroke with head above water is for an ice swimming contest - 25m sprint in a pool cut from a frozen lake. Been doing this for a few years now with a bunch of friends. Great fun, the cold doesn't bother me as much as being a mediocre swimmer does!

markymarkthree

2,267 posts

171 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Mrs Marky is wanting a dry robe type thing so i had a google and was gob smacked at the price £150ish. I have also spotted frostfire moon wrap £90ish. Are these ok, or can anyone recommend another good make.
It does appear though that every man, woman and their dog down at the lake wear those Dryrobe expensive ones.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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markymarkthree said:
Mrs Marky is wanting a dry robe type thing so i had a google and was gob smacked at the price £150ish. I have also spotted frostfire moon wrap £90ish. Are these ok, or can anyone recommend another good make.
It does appear though that every man, woman and their dog down at the lake wear those Dryrobe expensive ones.
The dryrobe is good though. I’m wearing mine right now about to swim in 7c water and outside air temp is 1c

I haven’t tried other kinds but mine is actually one of my best purchases I think.

Obviously there’s zero fashion element to wearing a big blanket coat so I expect they’re popular because they work well for what they’re designed to do.

You obviously don’t have to have one and plenty of people happily use other labour or some other method.

If you get your Mrs a different type will she be as happy? I don’t know myself but if my Mrs said she wanted x brand item and I got y brand because it was cheaper, she might not be happy?


markymarkthree

2,267 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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El stovey said:
markymarkthree said:
Mrs Marky is wanting a dry robe type thing so i had a google and was gob smacked at the price £150ish. I have also spotted frostfire moon wrap £90ish. Are these ok, or can anyone recommend another good make.
It does appear though that every man, woman and their dog down at the lake wear those Dryrobe expensive ones.
The dryrobe is good though. I’m wearing mine right now about to swim in 7c water and outside air temp is 1c

I haven’t tried other kinds but mine is actually one of my best purchases I think.

Obviously there’s zero fashion element to wearing a big blanket coat so I expect they’re popular because they work well for what they’re designed to do.

You obviously don’t have to have one and plenty of people happily use other labour or some other method.

If you get your Mrs a different type will she be as happy? I don’t know myself but if my Mrs said she wanted x brand item and I got y brand because it was cheaper, she might not be happy?
Thanks for the advice.
Last couple of days i have been observing the robes being worn at the lake (potential peeping Tom). Vast majority were Dryrobe but there were a few in the Moon wrap ones which looked just as long as Dryrobe. Mrs said she isn't too bothered either way, which means Dryrobe really.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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markymarkthree said:
Thanks for the advice.
Last couple of days i have been observing the robes being worn at the lake (potential peeping Tom). Vast majority were Dryrobe but there were a few in the Moon wrap ones which looked just as long as Dryrobe. Mrs said she isn't too bothered either way, which means Dryrobe really.
The dryrobe works well IMHO as it wicks the water away from what you’re wearing but doesn’t get all wet inside,

I get out of the sea or lake and put it on straight away, some get changed inside them but i usually just wrap up and then take off the top of my wetsuit and drive home in the whole lot and the car doesn’t get wet.

The outside is also pretty waterproof if it’s raining etc.

This time of year it’s all about staying warm or warming up quickly after leaving the water. The dryrobe seems to do this really well.

As I said I don’t know if others are just as good but that’s been my experience anyway. It’s not just the length or warmth etc it’s about the materials it’s made from.

I would say most people I see now at the sea and lakes are using them.

mcelliott

8,665 posts

181 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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Still swimming, it is brutal!

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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Another thumb up for the Dry Robes. They're bloody good.

Anyway

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5GyHWsbs7O5m5Loh...

British Swimming YT channel is broadcasting from Manchester this weekend. Its the Manchester International Swim Meet.

Its a bit drab to watch compared to what we've seen with the ISL (which is one of the best things to happen to swimming in a long time IMO), but its swimming and its in a pool in the UK.

rastapasta

1,863 posts

138 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Hi All

can anyone here recommend a wetsuit to go swimming in 5-10 degree water in the winter? hood and boots also please

Scabutz

7,605 posts

80 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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rastapasta said:
Hi All

can anyone here recommend a wetsuit to go swimming in 5-10 degree water in the winter? hood and boots also please
No I dont recommend going swimming in 5 degree water. Madness.

As for wetsuit though take your pick. The thickest swimming specific one will be about 4mm. Anything thicker is going to be pretty restrictive for swimming in. What sort of swimming will it be? You going for a paddle about or a proper freestyle swim? Also how good a swimmer are you? For extreme cold I would go for a 4:4 wetsuit at that gives the extra thickness up top, but poorer swimmers with sinky legs would do better swimming wise with a 3:5. If you want warmth over movement than look at a winter surfing wetsuit which will be 6mm or so.

You can get ones with an integrate hood. That would be good to stop ingress down your neck.

Youll also want something with a decent zip and seal. Swimming in 18 degree water a bit of ingress will be ok, but at that temp you want a thin bit of water in the suit and kept in as much as possible