The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

[Mothersruin]

dirty boy said:

Her we go.

Don't remember ever seeing two, such physical specimens share a ring.....

Didn't expect AJ to come in 10lbs heavier, difficult to see where that is because Wlad looks like he has the bigger frame.

AJ has tree trunk legs as well.

[hyphen]

Dominic Ingle gives his thoughts: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/28/wlad...

"If I was training Klitschko I would stress how important it is to get through the first four to six rounds, when Joshua will be at his most dangerous. He has to make him miss, tie him up, and establish his own jab – and then, as the fight goes on, start to take him to places where he has never been before. Winning the battle of the jabs will be key. Yes, Joshua is tremendously fast and powerful, but Klitschko’s jab is more technically sound and accurate. And although he doesn’t look it, because he stands a bit upright, the Ukrainian is also very hard to hit.

He will also be reminding himself that Joshua has never been the distance. One of the worst things for a fighter is when they go into a bout knowing they may have to go 12 rounds for the first time. No matter how well they prepare physically, it gets in their head. And if it does go into the latter stages Joshua – as good as he is – will find himself facing fresh challenges."

[StuTheGrouch]

AJ will topple Wlad with a left hook. I am incredibly nervous and excited about this in equal measures- it will be a very close fight, but I do think AJ will do it. People think he's one-dimensional etc, but he is an Olympic gold medalist so he is obviously technically capable (in addition to being a very heavy hitter).

I think it will be over inside 7 rounds.

[dirty boy]

Mothersruin said:

dirty boy said:

Her we go.

Don't remember ever seeing two, such physical specimens share a ring.....

Didn't expect AJ to come in 10lbs heavier, difficult to see where that is because Wlad looks like he has the bigger frame.

AJ has tree trunk legs as well.

To be fair, AJ looks well hydrated there and that alone could easily be as much as 7lbs on a guy his size, even I lost 3.9lbs last week in a day from not drinking plenty.

I think they've very similar physically, so this comes down to the whole speed/age/experience thing.

Both can bang. No doubt.

[tuscaneer]

StuTheGrouch said:

AJ will topple Wlad with a left hook. I am incredibly nervous and excited about this in equal measures- it will be a very close fight, but I do think AJ will do it. People think he's one-dimensional etc, but he is an Olympic gold medalist so he is obviously technically capable (in addition to being a very heavy hitter).

I think it will be over inside 7 rounds.

playing devils advocate mate....he should technically be a silver medalist because camarelle really did win that fight comfortably....

that said, i don't think he's one dimentional....we just haven't seen him have to be crafty with his feet yet....

[Robatr0n]

tuscaneer said:

.# nerd hat on#

just to bit a bit nit picky.....but theres only one guy who's banged him out and that was corrie sanders...and he punched like a mule kick.......

the purrity and brewster losses were absolutely attritional.......


if joshua takes him out clean he'll be only the second man to do so in nearly 200 fights......but wlad is as old as the hills now


.# nerd hat off#

I did wonder if that would get a response from you mate. And of course, you're right in so much as the only one to bang him out was Sanders who had incredible punching power. It's academic but he did get stopped by Brewster and Purrity but it was poor conditioning on his part more than outright punch power. Samuel Peter would have been a better example as he knocked Wladimir down 3 times in their first match in a fight he was having his head boxed off by Klitschko.

[tuscaneer]

Robatr0n said:

I did wonder if that would get a response from you mate. And of course, you're right in so much as the only one to bang him out was Sanders who had incredible punching power. It's academic but he did get stopped by Brewster and Purrity but it was poor conditioning on his part more than outright punch power. Samuel Peter would have been a better example as he knocked Wladimir down 3 times in their first match in a fight he was having his head boxed off by Klitschko.

i'll give you sam peter kidda........but remember who got up 3 times and beat peter mercilessly for the rest of that first fight

i'll tell you what, i've not seen many men beat like he was beat in the second fight....how it took 10 rounds to chop down that tree i'll never know.....i'd have been gone in 30 seconds...

[Fittster]

tuscaneer said:

StuTheGrouch said:

AJ will topple Wlad with a left hook. I am incredibly nervous and excited about this in equal measures- it will be a very close fight, but I do think AJ will do it. People think he's one-dimensional etc, but he is an Olympic gold medalist so he is obviously technically capable (in addition to being a very heavy hitter).

I think it will be over inside 7 rounds.

playing devils advocate mate....he should technically be a silver medalist because camarelle really did win that fight comfortably....

that said, i don't think he's one dimentional....we just haven't seen him have to be crafty with his feet yet....

Next you'll say Park Si-Hun didn't beat Roy Jones Jr in Soul.

[Robatr0n]

tuscaneer said:

i'll give you sam peter kidda........but remember who got up 3 times and beat peter mercilessly for the rest of that first fight

i'll tell you what, i've not seen many men beat like he was beat in the second fight....how it took 10 rounds to chop down that tree i'll never know.....i'd have been gone in 30 seconds...

Yeah I was impressed with his toughness, especially after being softened up by Vitali.

I so so wish Vitali was 7/8 years younger in today's division. He would have annihilated Fury.

[Sheetmaself]

So excited about going to this, will be my first fight and what a one to pick!
Don't know who i want to win though?
AJ for what it would mean for the future
Klitschko for his legacy if final fight

[lord trumpton]

m4tti said:

CAH706 said:

Well

AJ who was far from ripped (despite what the early reviews are saying). His gut is massive.....Looks like a Pro bodybuilder for some reason ??

GH....

It's well documented that Steroids and HGH cause a distended abdomen.

Looks at the pro bodybuilders side on - their profile looks like they have a beer gut.

AJ has packed on the lean beef since his Olympics debut...hmmm

That said the only difference for many in pro boxing is the difference in these that get caught and those that avoid getting caught.

[epom]

CAH706 said:

Well VK looked in great shape at the weigh in.

He carries the weight better than AJ who was far from ripped (despite what the early reviews are saying). His gut is massive.....Looks like a Pro bodybuilder for some reason ??

I'd like a gut just like that please...

[Yiliterate]

Hang about, hang about...I think I've only gone and cracked a puzzle that's been bugging me for bloody ages!

Thanks to his Lordship, I've just learnt this...:

lord trumpton said:

It's well documented that Steroids and HGH cause a distended abdomen.

...having yesterday found this out:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/797225/Tyson...

Well, fking case solved boys!!! For years I've eaten st-loads of pork products and all that time I've been wandering around with what is quite clearly a distended abdomen...now I bloody well know why!!!!

Anyone else out there also feeling vindicated right now..?!?!

Edited by Yiliterate on Friday 28th April 18:04

[briangriffin]

Fittster said:

Next you'll say Park Si-Hun didn't beat Roy Jones Jr in Soul.

We could be saying that Savon beat Joshua in the first round of the Olympics like many observers thought (including myself) and if it wasn't for a bit of a gift home town decision this fight wouldn't be anywhere near right now

[anonymous-user]

As much as I want Joshua to win, I'm laying money on him to lose on points. They both look in great shape, can't wait.

[johnxjsc1985]

Yiliterate said:

...having yesterday found this out:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/797225/Tyson...

Well, fking case solved boys!!! For years I've eaten st-loads of pork products and all that time I've been wandering around with what is quite clearly a distended abdomen...now I bloody well know why!!!!

Anyone else out there also feeling vindicated right now..?!?!

Edited by Yiliterate on Friday 28th April 18:04

My extremely distended abdomen must be a result of my Mrs secretly putting Steroids on my cornflakes .

[m4tti]

epom said:

I'd like a gut just like that please...

You wouldn't... it indicates your visceral organs have grown inline with your muscles..

Recombinant growth hormone took over from natural growth hormone during the mid 80's . Natural HGH had issues with CJD. Beyond therapeutic doses (which strength athletes use) the stomach distension is a side effect. Who knows what the future holds at a cellular mutation level.

Your going to have to really want it to use GH at high doses.

Edited by m4tti on Friday 28th April 23:29

[m4tti]

Would any of Joshua's previous opponents been able to jump almost to the top rope and have this level of athletisism.

[ALTO77]

And does that help you when you are punch shy, or help your stamina? 😀

[m4tti]

ALTO77 said:

And does that help you when you are punch shy, or help your stamina? ??

I don't think he's punch shy.., he got off the deck from Peter several times and turned it around.

And yes take it as an indicator of overall fitness.