The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
Discussion
JuniorD said:
hyphen said:
Zammy said:
Dear oh dear... The Amir Khan circus carrys on, he's now divorcing the missus as apparently she's been playing away with AJ no less!!
Ouch https://twitter.com/amirkingkhan?lang=en-gbHe has a sense of humour about it "She's moved up in the weight class"
She has replied too: https://twitter.com/FaryalxMakhdoomFrankly, child aside, it is probably the best for him. She is an airhead celeb wannabe, who looks weird and plastic. Hope he doesn't get screwed in the divorce and being single gets him full focused on his remaining time as boxer, as he is getting old and has not fought as much as he should have.
Speaking of which, that's the first time I've clocked eyes on that wife-thing. What a peculiar specimen.
Paul Malignaggi has quit as sparring partner for Conor McGregor.
Connors side released images of sparring showing Connor having the upperhand, Paul says it is a setup, and he wants the sparring video that was made released in full to show the truth.
Also read an article claiming poor ticket sales for the event have people worried the 'event' (freak show) has been overpriced. Hope it is true and it fails to make anywhere near the money they want!
Connors side released images of sparring showing Connor having the upperhand, Paul says it is a setup, and he wants the sparring video that was made released in full to show the truth.
Also read an article claiming poor ticket sales for the event have people worried the 'event' (freak show) has been overpriced. Hope it is true and it fails to make anywhere near the money they want!
Edited by hyphen on Friday 4th August 22:26
Just a tad disappointed with Vlads decision as I could actually see him winning that one,like he should have done the last one.
But again I can see where he`s coming from,
I was brought up watching Ali,Foreman Holmes,Frazier,Norton,Shavers,Lyle,an era when heavyweight boxing was at its best but in my mind Klitschko would have fitted in there also.
Not sure about Joshua but he could maybe rank alongside these greats.Only time will tell
But again I can see where he`s coming from,
I was brought up watching Ali,Foreman Holmes,Frazier,Norton,Shavers,Lyle,an era when heavyweight boxing was at its best but in my mind Klitschko would have fitted in there also.
Not sure about Joshua but he could maybe rank alongside these greats.Only time will tell
Yiliterate said:
Question is mate, if there's no fight, what else is there to do in Vegas to keep you amused..???
Ha ha ha - yep indeed. However I've been about 15 times now, so need a valid excuse so I don't take heat from the missus.Maybe it will be a catch-weight with AJ vs Khan ......
Yiliterate said:
benm3evo said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40824231
AJ has been ordered to defend the WBA against Ortiz now. So how does that leave things with Pulev & the IBF (I think)? Presume he'll have to vacate one belt? It seems impossible to hold all the belts for any length of time now
Looks like Joshua will vacate the WBA...for quite a while they've been saying they'll fulfil the IBF mandatory against Pulev if the Klitschko rematch didn't happen. It's a pity...boxing politics can be a bAJ has been ordered to defend the WBA against Ortiz now. So how does that leave things with Pulev & the IBF (I think)? Presume he'll have to vacate one belt? It seems impossible to hold all the belts for any length of time now
h.One positive is that Ortiz - should he win the vacated WBA belt - seems desperate to get in big fights, so a (re)unification with Joshua's IBF title may not be that hard to make.
Edited by Yiliterate on Friday 4th August 12:00
He's going to fight Ortiz early 2018, and then most likely Wilder in the summer/autumn for big $$$ in Vegas. There's a long interview with Eddie Hearn on Ifl tv explaining it all. Ortiz/WBA will almost certainly accept some payment and agree to wait until the start of next year, he's not going to vacate the belt and I don't see them stripping him of it either to be honest. Could be wrong but I very much doubt they will strip him as he wants to and will fight Ortiz within the next 6-7 months.
It's a good fight trilogy...looking forward to all three.
Why was it so different when Fury had a mandatory but had signed a re-match contract with Klitchko that he was stripped? Seems very unfair, or was there more to it?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/09/ibf-...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/09/ibf-...
Chad_Hugo said:
AJ's not going to vacate the WBA belt- the Pullev fight is already signed, late Oct or early Nov date will be confirmed within a couple of weeks. Pullev has been waiting for the best part of a year, so it was mandated some time ago, the Ortiz fight was only mandated two days ago officially.
He's going to fight Ortiz early 2018, and then most likely Wilder in the summer/autumn for big $$$ in Vegas. There's a long interview with Eddie Hearn on Ifl tv explaining it all. Ortiz/WBA will almost certainly accept some payment and agree to wait until the start of next year, he's not going to vacate the belt and I don't see them stripping him of it either to be honest. Could be wrong but I very much doubt they will strip him as he wants to and will fight Ortiz within the next 6-7 months.
It's a good fight trilogy...looking forward to all three.
It's good news if the various parties can come to a compromise but unfortunately it seems that is still a fair way away (I note your 'certainty' around a 2018 fight with Ortiz shifted more towards supposition as the paragraph progressed He's going to fight Ortiz early 2018, and then most likely Wilder in the summer/autumn for big $$$ in Vegas. There's a long interview with Eddie Hearn on Ifl tv explaining it all. Ortiz/WBA will almost certainly accept some payment and agree to wait until the start of next year, he's not going to vacate the belt and I don't see them stripping him of it either to be honest. Could be wrong but I very much doubt they will strip him as he wants to and will fight Ortiz within the next 6-7 months.
It's a good fight trilogy...looking forward to all three.
Also, while Hearn stated they wouldn't vacate, it's kind of semantics; if the WBA say 'fight Ortiz next or else' and team Joshua says 'no', it doesn't really make much difference if the next words are them saying '...and have your belt back' or the WBA saying 'can we please have our belt back?' ).Also, while Hearn highlights how the IBF have been flexible in respect of recent Joshua fights, he didn't mention that the WBA were also notably accommodative in allowing the vacant WBA title to be on the line for the Joshua-Klitschko fight, despite Klitschko not being their highest ranked contender. Indeed, the pragmatism of the WBA was arguably pivotal to the fight going ahead as Klitschko wasn't ranked by the IBF at that point; by allowing their vacant title to be on the line it became a unification fight, so paved the way for Klitschko to be fighting for the IBF title instead of their mandatory challenger. And who was the WBA #1 ranked fighter that was arguably 'queue-jumped' when that arrangement was agreed? A certain Luis Ortiz!
As such, the WBA may now look to promote the interests of Ortiz just as the IBF is with Pulev - that the IBF said 'Bagsie our man' first won't necessarily carry any weight with the WBA, particularly if they are legally bound as team Ortiz have previously claimed. Also, the fact that Hearn is claiming the WBA promised him a voluntary when Joshua-Klitschko was negotiated, yet the WBA have declared the mandatory and, moreover, have clarified that on 17th January they told both parties that the winner of Joshua-Klitschko had to arrange a defence against Ortiz as the next fight within 120 days, doesn't bode particularly well either.
Either way, it'll be an interesting few days...
Edited by Yiliterate on Sunday 6th August 23:41
Gerradi said:
Why was it so different when Fury had a mandatory but had signed a re-match contract with Klitchko that he was stripped? Seems very unfair, or was there more to it?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/09/ibf-...
Quite simply, the IBF said that they hadn't agreed to a rematch when sanctioning the Klitschko-Fury fight (not forgetting that Fury was Klitschko's WBO mandatory defence, not theirs), so were under no obligation to allow that to take priority over their mandatory. Presumably, this time around, lessons were learnt and both the IBF and WBA were approached beforehand for their agreement that their respective mandatory requirements would be subordinate to a Joshua-Klitschko rematch. However, what doesn't appear to have been decisively agreed this time is which sanctioning body gets first dibs for the mandatory slot now that the rematch isn't going ahead (though Hearn is claiming the WBA said they could have a voluntary defence before they need to fulfil the mandatory with them, which would allow them to deal with their IBF mandatory first...).https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/09/ibf-...
tuscaneer said:
ricky burns v. anthony crolla?? ...thems the whispers round here....
Set for October in Manchester:http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/ricky-burns-will-f...
I remember the key difference between the Tyson/AJ situations with the IBF being that Tyson's team were not as switched on and knowledgeable when it comes to the procedures and did not actually apply for an exemption with the IBF at any stage to allow Tyson to have his rematch as a voluntary and then the mandatory straight afterwards. This has to be done by a certain deadline and then it's at the discretion of the federation- they never applied.
Of course, I think most of us would agree that Tyson would never have fought Glazkov anyway. By that time the wheels were already coming off and they were probably not thinking more than one fight ahead and it was a case of rematch, huge payday and go from there, so losing one belt would have been pretty irrelevant.
AJ is fighting his IBF mandatory next, which was mandated prior to Ortiz since it dates back to the start of the year more or less (who he has said he will fight) and so being as it is a mandatory obligation albeit from another federation I really don't think he will be stripped by the WBA on that basis as he would have a genuine case for an exemption- we will see but I think there is very little chance of it happening.
Money talks in boxing and I am sure that will be the case here too..
Of course, I think most of us would agree that Tyson would never have fought Glazkov anyway. By that time the wheels were already coming off and they were probably not thinking more than one fight ahead and it was a case of rematch, huge payday and go from there, so losing one belt would have been pretty irrelevant.
AJ is fighting his IBF mandatory next, which was mandated prior to Ortiz since it dates back to the start of the year more or less (who he has said he will fight) and so being as it is a mandatory obligation albeit from another federation I really don't think he will be stripped by the WBA on that basis as he would have a genuine case for an exemption- we will see but I think there is very little chance of it happening.
Money talks in boxing and I am sure that will be the case here too..
You're right, money does talk, but there may be more than one financially lucrative option for Ortiz. If he yields and waits for Pulev to have his crack, he'll then take the challenger's purse in a fight with Joshua (or possibly Pulev!) and whatever he can negotiate as step-aside money. Alternatively, he can stand firm and, assuming he's right about the legal situation around fighting for the WBA title next, will in all likelihood fight for the vacant WBA belt against a lesser opponent such as Alexander Ustinov with presumably an even purse split, albeit a smaller fight than the Joshua one. However, win that and he's then in a position to negotiate a unification fight with Joshua (which puts him in a significantly stronger negotiating position), or alternatively negotiate a unification fight with Wilder (again on a stronger footing than their recent conversations, particularly as it's a fight the TV companies State-side have already said they're interested in). That second option would then make a fight with Joshua for the winner bloody huge! An interesting few weeks awaits...
Edited by Yiliterate on Monday 7th August 13:38
tuscaneer said:
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/david-price-...
haha!!....you certainly have got your finger on tbe pulse my friend...the only bit i can add is that the "tba" is one zumbano love of getting flattened by joshua fame...
i think all of the pros in that gym( judging by how good they look on bags ,pads and sparring versus how good i look at all of the above....well let's just say i won't be offering my services to get ttted any time soon
altbough, having said that even on my holiday with the kids last week i still managed shadow boxing with weights in the baleairic 40 degree heat...coming out of the hotel gym looking like this while every other was sunbathing and drinking by the pool...well i got a few funny looks!!
i think all of the pros in that gym( judging by how good they look on bags ,pads and sparring versus how good i look at all of the above....well let's just say i won't be offering my services to get t
tted any time soonaltbough, having said that even on my holiday with the kids last week i still managed shadow boxing with weights in the baleairic 40 degree heat...coming out of the hotel gym looking like this while every other
was sunbathing and drinking by the pool...well i got a few funny looks!!Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
ricky burns v. anthony crolla?? ...thems the whispers round here....
Set for October in Manchester:http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/ricky-burns-will-f...
tuscaneer said:
sorry pal, just clocked this reply....hey, who you got in this one???!!...cracking fight
Crolla I think, even though the two fights with Linares may have taken a bit out of him. Burns has enjoyed something of an Indian summer in his career (which I was very happy to see) but I think the stars aligned to an extent for him to pick up his third world title, and with him coming down in weight as well, I'd say it's Crolla's to lose.Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff