The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
Discussion
tuscaneer said:
philv said:
But, surprisingly for ggg, the majority of his punches were nothing of note.
In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
thing is though mate, a scoring shot is a scoring shot.....sure , we are used to seeing opponents prostrate on the canvas against him but that doesn't mean he should be punished for "only " landing more shots than his opponent...In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
What happens if every round ggg clobbers canelo in the first 10 seconds.
He stumbles around the ring in a daze untill 20 seconds from the bell.
During which time ggg laughs and relaxes against the ropes.
Canelo tnen lands 50 so so jabs without reply.
Repeat that for 12 rounds.
How do you score that one?
philv said:
tuscaneer said:
philv said:
But, surprisingly for ggg, the majority of his punches were nothing of note.
In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
thing is though mate, a scoring shot is a scoring shot.....sure , we are used to seeing opponents prostrate on the canvas against him but that doesn't mean he should be punished for "only " landing more shots than his opponent...In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
What happens if every round ggg clobbers canelo in the first 10 seconds.
He stumbles around the ring in a daze untill 20 seconds from the bell.
During which time ggg laughs and relaxes against the ropes.
Canelo tnen lands 50 so so jabs without reply.
How do you score that one?
what did happen was canelo outscored ggg in 4 rounds, ggg outscored canelo in 8....i can't really add any more than that bare fact.
tuscaneer said:
philv said:
tuscaneer said:
philv said:
But, surprisingly for ggg, the majority of his punches were nothing of note.
In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
thing is though mate, a scoring shot is a scoring shot.....sure , we are used to seeing opponents prostrate on the canvas against him but that doesn't mean he should be punished for "only " landing more shots than his opponent...In this fight, a flashy 20 second burst from canelo, landing some nice shots, was enough to win the round.
As the rest of the round tended to be ggg pressurising to no great affect, so the 20 second burst was the only point of note.
Maybe such a big defining fight has come very late in ggg's career.
Or maybe Canelo is very very good defensively.
Just a shame about the Byrd score.
Cheapened an otherwise intriging fight.
What happens if every round ggg clobbers canelo in the first 10 seconds.
He stumbles around the ring in a daze untill 20 seconds from the bell.
During which time ggg laughs and relaxes against the ropes.
Canelo tnen lands 50 so so jabs without reply.
How do you score that one?
what did happen was canelo outscored ggg in 4 rounds, ggg outscored canelo in 8....i can't really add any more than that bare fact.
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Sadly, I don't think tuscaneer factors in quality of punches. His mind is still stuck in amateur rules. That's the only thing that explains it. Sad.Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Mannerman said:
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Sadly, I don't think tuscaneer factors in quality of punches. His mind is still stuck in amateur rules. That's the only thing that explains it. Sad.Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
His knowledge far outweighs your nonsense.
The fact that you as a 'new' poster are so readily calling other posters sad, tends to show that you are not new at all.
Keep up the pretence by all means though.
700BHP said:
Mannerman said:
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Sadly, I don't think tuscaneer factors in quality of punches. His mind is still stuck in amateur rules. That's the only thing that explains it. Sad.Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
His knowledge far outweighs your nonsense.
The fact that you as a 'new' poster are so readily calling other posters sad, tends to show that you are not new at all.
Keep up the pretence by all means though.
I can see this Swordman guy got you so riled up that you're still salty. So much so, that you're taking it out on me; an innocent bystander!
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
leonard broke my (and hagler's !!) heart that night. i still think hagler did just enough...Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
we're going round in circles here...really not worth it.....for me, when golovkin was getting through you could feel the impact of the shots. he wasn't tapping in there!....credit to nelo for standing up to it all and making a good showing.but he lost clearly. no shame there
Mannerman said:
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Sadly, I don't think tuscaneer factors in quality of punches. His mind is still stuck in amateur rules. That's the only thing that explains it. Sad.Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Mannerman said:
700BHP said:
Mannerman said:
philv said:
Surely it has to be quality of punches as well?
Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
Sadly, I don't think tuscaneer factors in quality of punches. His mind is still stuck in amateur rules. That's the only thing that explains it. Sad.Mind, one of my biggest dissapointments was haglar losing against pitter patter leonard.
Lots of nothing punches from haglar won it.
His knowledge far outweighs your nonsense.
The fact that you as a 'new' poster are so readily calling other posters sad, tends to show that you are not new at all.
Keep up the pretence by all means though.
I can see this Swordman guy got you so riled up that you're still salty. So much so, that you're taking it out on me; an innocent bystander!
one thing i can't do is suffer fools gladly.
tuscaneer said:
there is no way you have a deep enough understanding of what you are watching to have actually done it....that's not to disparage non participants. i know a few of the lads here haven't actually pulled them on but they remain informed blokes with good knowledge. it's individual choice to get get punched in the face or not and i respect everyone who can present a reasonable argument whether a participant or not...
one thing i can't do is suffer fools gladly.
Wrong again, matey chops. one thing i can't do is suffer fools gladly.
But anyway, I'm not here to have an argument. Apologies for any offence caused.
Mannerman said:
Wrong again, matey chops.
But anyway, I'm not here to have an argument. Apologies for any offence caused.
no offence taken pal But anyway, I'm not here to have an argument. Apologies for any offence caused.
i'm up for reasonable debate all day long. i don't give a stuff if you've had none or 500 bouts...this long running boxing thread in pistonheads seems to be the most sane boxing forum on the internet..and long may it continue!
tuscaneer said:
no offence taken pal
i'm up for reasonable debate all day long. i don't give a stuff if you've had none or 500 bouts...this long running boxing thread in pistonheads seems to be the most sane boxing forum on the internet..and long may it continue!
For once we agree on something!i'm up for reasonable debate all day long. i don't give a stuff if you've had none or 500 bouts...this long running boxing thread in pistonheads seems to be the most sane boxing forum on the internet..and long may it continue!
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