The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
Discussion
Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
Amirhussain said:
Has anyone seen any of Kalle Sauerlands interviews? Is it me or does he seem to be completely off his nut?
voracious coke head 
t but this thread is fking priceless!!!..https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-kalle-sa...
Groves had a lot to loose in that fight and is a professional so no reason for him to have not taken it seriously or be up for it as the expression goes.At times he was letting cox push him back and cox is a small super middle.Eubank does look as big as Groves but he always was a big middleweight so weight and size will not be an issue in this fight I just feel Eubank is on the rise and Groves has slightly gone off yes he's still only 29 but has had a pretty tough career and although he is a champion the 2 froch fights definitely took something out of him.
you could well be right fella...got to disagree on the being up for a fight thing though. groves in his head knew that cox was a step down and no matter how much he trained or sparred for the fight there will have been something deep in his subconscious mind telling him that he didn't need to be quite as wired for this fight...it's a common thing, how many guys have lost world titles because they percieved zero threat in their opponent....eyes on bigger prizes very often doesn't correlate to razor sharp performances. too often a guy's output drops to the level of his opposition.
Still trust in Groves. Eubank has great stamina and punch output, but not too sure about his power at SMW yet, or his strength. Also Eubanks accuracy can be really wild - against World Class opposition you will pay for missing shots.
Think Groves has the better boxing brain, is naturally bigger and stronger so can wear him down in clinches and carries more power and a better jab.
Either way I'm going for tickets and praying for Stamford Bridge as the venue!
Think Groves has the better boxing brain, is naturally bigger and stronger so can wear him down in clinches and carries more power and a better jab.
Either way I'm going for tickets and praying for Stamford Bridge as the venue!
I hope groves win but think the styles will make it very interesting. Just looked at there records on boxrec and groves is only a year older and has had 3 more fights so physically shouldn't be much more worn than eubank. I know the froch loss affected groves mentally a lot more than it did physically so hope all the demons are exersized now. Did think that groves looked a little fleshy around the chest area on saturday where previously especially froch fights he looked very trim and strong. Build up is going to be very exciting too!!
i see a lot of promise in eubank, his upward trajectory has been borderline alarming!....BUT... it has to be said his level of competition thus far both amateur and pro is leagues bellow what groves has faced.....HOWEVER..he has looked very good sometimes if a bit wild at others. i know people say you can't guage anything from a guy fighting cans/journeymen and no hopers however sometimes the manner of victory does reveal qualities. if you watch early mike tyson footage against those nobodies it was still shocking watching him carve through them....i'm not saying eubank is a mini mike tyson ...but there have been some very nice performances(yildrim) to go with the square on , wild man routine he's displayed at other times....
does that make him all of a sudden favourite to beat both groves and smith?... not yet in my book but i can't wait to find out
...but there have been some very nice performances(yildrim) to go with the square on , wild man routine he's displayed at other times....does that make him all of a sudden favourite to beat both groves and smith?... not yet in my book but i can't wait to find out
tuscaneer said:
does that make him all of a sudden favourite to beat both groves and smith?... not yet in my book but i can't wait to find out
Agreed - Groves being 3rd favorite is good value - seeing a lot of Eubank being backed on social media - so the bookies might just be covering their arse with the switch of odds!tuscaneer said:
Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
Amirhussain said:
Has anyone seen any of Kalle Sauerlands interviews? Is it me or does he seem to be completely off his nut?
voracious coke head t but this thread is fking priceless!!!..https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-kalle-sa...
JLC25 said:
tuscaneer said:
does that make him all of a sudden favourite to beat both groves and smith?... not yet in my book but i can't wait to find out
Agreed - Groves being 3rd favorite is good value - seeing a lot of Eubank being backed on social media - so the bookies might just be covering their arse with the switch of odds!That said, I personally think it's too close to call. What a fantastic prospect though...probably the biggest domestic match-up since Froch-Groves, with the winner, all being well, fighting Callum Smith in the final of the tournament in another huge domestic match-up, and the winner of that then in line to fight DeGale in a unification fight in 2018 in yet another huge domestic match-up. 'Kin'ell, what a heritage we have in the Super-Middleweight division!!!!
Edited by Yiliterate on Monday 16th October 18:21
FredClogs said:
Takam did a decent job against Parker a year or two ago, it was a closer match than the score cards suggested I think and a stiff test for Parker, I expect AJ to win but it could be interesting, Takam is certainly no mug.
Takam is small but durable(ish). AJ KOs him within 6 rounds.carlos takam is a hard man. it's a shame his most memorable performance was getting iced by povetkin. other than that he hasn't really put a foot wrong, the parker loss aside. but he didn't exactly embarass himself there....aj too young, too strong and hits too hard, same result as takam/povetkin but maybe a bit sooner than the 10 rounds it took sasha
For such short notice I think that Takam is a great replacement. There's no doubt that Pulev is a better fighter than Takam but I actually think that Takam is stylistically worse for Joshua and represents more of a challenge. He's as hard as nails and won't fold the first time he tastes AJ's power and he loves to get inside and ship some punishment too.
Joshua will win but it won't be a one round blowout. I think he will have a harder fight in Takam than he would with Pulev.
As a note, if Joshua does blow him out then it really is a testament to what level he's at.
Joshua will win but it won't be a one round blowout. I think he will have a harder fight in Takam than he would with Pulev.
As a note, if Joshua does blow him out then it really is a testament to what level he's at.
think you're right pal....takam was competitive against povetkin who punches like a mule kick...he took it for 10 rounds before capitulating...parker couldn't
really put a dent in him....
i was looking forward to see if the klitschko loss had any lasting damage on pulev because all he's really done since then was beat the ghosts of peter, johnson and a (to be fair to dereck) a slightly rejuvenated chisora.....that menace he showed earlier against the likes of ustinov and dimitrenko has seemingly been absent since klitscho stopped him
really put a dent in him....
i was looking forward to see if the klitschko loss had any lasting damage on pulev because all he's really done since then was beat the ghosts of peter, johnson and a (to be fair to dereck) a slightly rejuvenated chisora.....that menace he showed earlier against the likes of ustinov and dimitrenko has seemingly been absent since klitscho stopped him
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