The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

[FredClogs]

Mohammed and Larry is on BT Sport1 now. It's a great doc and only and hour long. Gives a good insight not just into Ali and Holmes but fighting men in general.

[hyphen]

dangerousB said:

Murray should get his purse regardless - 8 months out of his life training for this fight and he's treated like this - disgraceful!

or if not money, the next fight with BJS after.

I wouldn't go far as to say disgraceful, as you can't blame BJS for doing it if Warren has indeed got a contract coming from either GGG or Canelo. It's a huge opportunity that can't be missed regardless of impact on Murray, but Billy does need to make it right.

[tuscaneer]

Gameface said:

that's big money!!....

actual la motta shorts are worth a fraction of that....you'd get duran's iconic "marlboro " logo from the first leonard fight for that!....

IF i had 30 grand burning a hole in my pocket...
something like this would hit my buttons...

https://sports.ha.com/itm/boxing/1896-boxing-contr...

[tuscaneer]

dangerousB said:

tuscaneer said:

i know i keep banging on about this daniyar yeleussinov....but worth noting he is fighting again on wednesday night's okolie/watkins bill..

I'll definitely be watching this bill - haven't seen this Yeleussinov guy fight yet, so that'll definitely be interesting.

Also Luke's gonna have to step up for this Okolie fight. I've not been enamoured with his performances in the last couple of fights - wins yes, but not against the greatest of opposition.

It's going to be telling whether a better class of opponent brings out the best in him - I hope it does. My gut feeling is that he'll have a very tough night, but I hope I'm wrong!

just got myself a yeleussinov signed promo card from his debut fight at the barclays centre....get in now for 40 quid before he gets famous


looking forward to luke/lawrence you know!

[tuscaneer]

hyphen said:

dangerousB said:

Murray should get his purse regardless - 8 months out of his life training for this fight and he's treated like this - disgraceful!

or if not money, the next fight with BJS after.

I wouldn't go far as to say disgraceful, as you can't blame BJS for doing it if Warren has indeed got a contract coming from either GGG or Canelo. It's a huge opportunity that can't be missed regardless of impact on Murray, but Billy does need to make it right.

i'd love to see saunders get a go at golovkin...i'd honestly love to see ggg get all the belts and for canelo to be left hanging ...i'm hearing canelo/spike is pretty much a guarantee as they will not relent on taking the major split.. loeffler arguing that after everything that's gone on ggg deserves 50/50 not 65/35....and i absolutely agree. he is the champion and regardless of anything else canelo weakened his hand by himself causing all these issues with the rematch

murray, poor sod, i feel really sorry for him in all of this though

[tuscaneer]

so povetkin next then!!!!???....

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-vs-...



....thought so!

[Ructions]

Katie Taylor's father has been seriously injured and another man killed during what is believed to be a fued related shooting at Taylors gym in Bray, Co Wicklow. https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0605/968211-bra...

[hyphen]

tuscaneer said:

hyphen said:

dangerousB said:

Murray should get his purse regardless - 8 months out of his life training for this fight and he's treated like this - disgraceful!

or if not money, the next fight with BJS after.

I wouldn't go far as to say disgraceful, as you can't blame BJS for doing it if Warren has indeed got a contract coming from either GGG or Canelo. It's a huge opportunity that can't be missed regardless of impact on Murray, but Billy does need to make it right.

i'd love to see saunders get a go at golovkin...i'd honestly love to see ggg get all the belts and for canelo to be left hanging ...i'm hearing canelo/spike is pretty much a guarantee as they will not relent on taking the major split.. loeffler arguing that after everything that's gone on ggg deserves 50/50 not 65/35....and i absolutely agree. he is the champion and regardless of anything else canelo weakened his hand by himself causing all these issues with the rematch

murray, poor sod, i feel really sorry for him in all of this though

Murray has been digging through BJS's old tweets and found him moaning the same when Haye kept pulling out https://www.instagram.com/p/BjmPwMYh4Dd/?utm_sourc...

[hyphen]

tuscaneer said:

so povetkin next then!!!!???....

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-vs-...

....thought so!

We know you thought so, the rest of us are waiting for contracts to be signed!

I would be surprised though, fighting anyone prior is a risk, no matter who, and a loss means a re-match and delays.Only Fury can make AJ more money potentially. Povetkin won't be a walkover for AJ, and Wilder can lose anytime. WBA inidcates it won't force their fight if Wilder is the opponent so the mandatory stuff is a smokescreen.

Very intersting how AJ is accepting less money for fighting in the UK, I am sure it is everything to do with supporting the UK fans and nothing to do with how favourable the ref and judges can be when you are not on home soil.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 5th June 12:50

[LoonyTunes]

hyphen said:

tuscaneer said:

so povetkin next then!!!!???....

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-vs-...

....thought so!

We know you thought so, the rest of us are waiting for contracts to be signed!

I would be surprised though, fighting anyone prior is a risk, no matter who, and a loss means a re-match and delays.Only Fury can make AJ more money potentially. Povetkin won't be a walkover for AJ, and Wilder can lose anytime. WBA inidcates it won't force their fight if Wilder is the opponent so the mandatory stuff is a smokescreen.

Very intersting how AJ is accepting less money for fighting in the UK, I am sure it is everything to do with supporting the UK fans and nothing to do with how favourable the ref and judges can be when you are not on home soil.

Or a long overdue rebalancing for the 100 years that our challengers had to go to the US to try and win the title.

I'm all in favour of it.

[hyphen]

I suppose the DAZN launch being in September may also be on Hearns mind, Wilder is aligned with Showtime but AJ is a free agent in the USA as will be Povetkin, so that would be a hell of a opening night for Eddie and get some DAZN subscriber numbers up rather than a joint PPV with Showtime where the Americans would likely go with what they know.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 5th June 13:16

[tuscaneer]

hyphen said:

Murray has been digging through BJS's old tweets and found him moaning the same when Haye kept pulling out https://www.instagram.com/p/BjmPwMYh4Dd/?utm_sourc...

he's fking raging!...and rightly so!

[tuscaneer]

hyphen said:

tuscaneer said:

so povetkin next then!!!!???....

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-vs-...

....thought so!

We know you thought so, the rest of us are waiting for contracts to be signed!

I would be surprised though, fighting anyone prior is a risk, no matter who, and a loss means a re-match and delays.Only Fury can make AJ more money potentially. Povetkin won't be a walkover for AJ, and Wilder can lose anytime. WBA inidcates it won't force their fight if Wilder is the opponent so the mandatory stuff is a smokescreen.

Very intersting how AJ is accepting less money for fighting in the UK, I am sure it is everything to do with supporting the UK fans and nothing to do with how favourable the ref and judges can be when you are not on home soil.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 5th June 12:50

have i mentioned this before??!

i'm pretty sure they will let this wilder/aj fight mature for a while yet....age it like a good cheese..but they won't leave it too long or it will fking stink

i note eddie hearn has said there is already not really enough time to promote the fight properly....


hey, i might be wrong here, after all hearn isn't exactly frank warren!....i'd still be well surprised if aj fights wilder next

[hyphen]

tuscaneer said:

i'm pretty sure they will let this wilder/aj fight mature for a while yet....age it like a good cheese..but they won't leave it too long or it will fking stink

I would bet on AJ winning against anyone, however with Wilder it is always 50-50 as (relatively speaking) he can't box and if he fails to KO then he is always open to losing on points. He isn't Manny or Floyd. Would be mistake of the century if AJ let a $50 million cheque get away.

In other news- Vitali's Hall of Fame ceremony is end of this week.

"Mexican boxer Erik Morales, American boxer Ronald Wright, TV commentators Steve Albert and Jim Gray, promoter Klaus-Peter Kohl are among the other new members of the Hall of Fame who will also take part in the ceremony.

The legends of the world boxing Mike Tyson, Wladimir Klitschko, Riddick Bowe, Miguel Cotto, Marco Antonio Barrera, Kelly Pavlik, Antonio Tarver, Sergio Martinez, the Spinx brothers, Christy Martin, etc., will take part in the ceremony."

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 5th June 20:52

[tuscaneer]

Hall of fame weekend is a bit of a sore point for me...id second guessed the right weekend before it was announced then booked hotels and flights....wont bore you with the details but long and short of it is I'm not going. Absolutely gutted. I suppose I'll just have to wait another 4 years and go again when wlad is inducted ......i WILL get a photo of me and the klitschkos before I die....

[Yiliterate]

tuscaneer said:

Hall of fame weekend is a bit of a sore point for me...id second guessed the right weekend before it was announced then booked hotels and flights....wont bore you with the details but long and short of it is I'm not going. Absolutely gutted. I suppose I'll just have to wait another 4 years and go again when wlad is inducted ......i WILL get a photo of me and the klitschkos before I die....

Don’t worry mate; using the magic of modern technology...

...Ta-Dah!!!!

[Gameface]

Very good!

How's your nose Tusc, me old English Bull Terrier me old mate?

[tuscaneer]

Yiliterate said:

tuscaneer said:

Hall of fame weekend is a bit of a sore point for me...id second guessed the right weekend before it was announced then booked hotels and flights....wont bore you with the details but long and short of it is I'm not going. Absolutely gutted. I suppose I'll just have to wait another 4 years and go again when wlad is inducted ......i WILL get a photo of me and the klitschkos before I die....

Don’t worry mate; using the magic of modern technology...

...Ta-Dah!!!!

Absolutely class pal!!....i see my lo-Fi analog skills are making a comeback!...we'll have you building dry stone walls with your bare hands in the lake district next...


I'm getting that image on a t shirt

[tuscaneer]

Gameface said:

Very good!

How's your nose Tusc, me old English Bull Terrier me old mate?

Straight as an arrow thank you pal!....i think I must have quite a bendy beak as in all the years of getting touched on it it's only broken once.....very slight kink to the left from eating orthodox jabs but nothing really!

[Gandahar]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/44387747

So is Fury going to splash him like Big Daddy or Giant Haystacks for the win then?


Wilder against Joshua I think Wilder might well win, but hoping Anthony does of course. Wilder is no mug. Unlike Big Big Fury