The Running Thread Vol 2

[GregK2]

Boston (UK) half marathon approaching 16th April. Anyone done this before? Meant to be very flat, so hoping / aiming to break 90 mins. Been following a training plan from Garmin coach since start of the year, have enjoyed it and first time I've had any kind of real structure to my running.

[naturals]

Inspire said:

Thanks for the update. Optimism is the way to go! I got my final email from the organisers this morning with the registration QR code so they do seem to be pushing on with the arrangements.

Thanks

Rob

https://www.francebleu.fr/sports/tous-les-sports/mobilisation-contre-la-reforme-des-retraites-le-marathon-de-paris-est-maintenu-ce-dimanche-7657589

"the 46ᵉ edition of the Paris marathon will take place as announced. Amaury Sport Organization (ASO), the organizer of the event, denied this Monday to France Bleu Paris the rumors of cancellation linked to the mobilization against the pension reform."

(Google Translate so may not be 100%, but certainly better than my Franglais)

[Inspire]

naturals said:

https://www.francebleu.fr/sports/tous-les-sports/m...

"the 46? edition of the Paris marathon will take place as announced. Amaury Sport Organization (ASO), the organizer of the event, denied this Monday to France Bleu Paris the rumors of cancellation linked to the mobilization against the pension reform."

(Google Translate so may not be 100%, but certainly better than my Franglais)

Well done naturals for finding that! I’d been periodically refreshing the marathon website for news this morning! We’re on!

Good luck for Sunday!

Rob

[joshcowin]

GregK2 said:

Boston (UK) half marathon approaching 16th April. Anyone done this before? Meant to be very flat, so hoping / aiming to break 90 mins. Been following a training plan from Garmin coach since start of the year, have enjoyed it and first time I've had any kind of real structure to my running.

All the best for breaking 90mins!

I am running a marathon that day near Ashford (Kent spring marathon) it is not flat not 100% on road so wont be a quick time but I am still aiming to PB I will be happy with 3:2X

I would love to see how I would do on a flat course later on in the year! Plan is to drop down to improve my 10km and HM times then slowly up the mileage over summer to target a faster marathon time in October!

[naturals]

joshcowin said:

All the best for breaking 90mins!

I am running a marathon that day near Ashford (Kent spring marathon) it is not flat not 100% on road so wont be a quick time but I am still aiming to PB I will be happy with 3:2X

I would love to see how I would do on a flat course later on in the year! Plan is to drop down to improve my 10km and HM times then slowly up the mileage over summer to target a faster marathon time in October!

Question on between marathon training; is there a plan available when you're between one marathon and another, aiming to improve time / comfort around the route?

I'm running a full marathon on Sunday (first in nearly seven years), and then I have an ultra and a half later in the year, possibly another marathon. It feels very much like the training is all bets off once past the marathon. Do you just design your own plan or are there customisable plans available?

[GregK2]

joshcowin said:

GregK2 said:

Boston (UK) half marathon approaching 16th April. Anyone done this before? Meant to be very flat, so hoping / aiming to break 90 mins. Been following a training plan from Garmin coach since start of the year, have enjoyed it and first time I've had any kind of real structure to my running.

All the best for breaking 90mins!

I am running a marathon that day near Ashford (Kent spring marathon) it is not flat not 100% on road so wont be a quick time but I am still aiming to PB I will be happy with 3:2X

I would love to see how I would do on a flat course later on in the year! Plan is to drop down to improve my 10km and HM times then slowly up the mileage over summer to target a faster marathon time in October!

Hope it goes well for you, will be a confidence booster to PB on a hilly course, looks a nice route.

I have been wondering what to target after completing my HM, I think I still have unfinished business at 5 and 10k, the latter especially. Not ready to commit to a marathon!

[redrabbit29]

I've been trying to post a new thread and also a reply here about the Valencia Marathon and how to get there, how long to stay etc but I keep getting a 403 Forbidden error.

There are no links in there.

INever had this issue on here before :-\

[jeremyc]

redrabbit29 said:

I've been trying to post a new thread and also a reply here about the Valencia Marathon and how to get there, how long to stay etc but I keep getting a 403 Forbidden error.

There are no links in there.

INever had this issue on here before :-\

It's a known issue - see this thread discussing it

It's nothing personal , but will be something in the text you are trying to post.

Experiment by posting small sections of it until you find the piece of text that is causing the problem.

[redrabbit29]

jeremyc said:

t's a known issue - see this thread discussing it

It's nothing personal , but will be something in the text you are trying to post.

Experiment by posting small sections of it until you find the piece of text that is causing the problem.

Thank you! Just posted a new thread

It took a while but I think it was a problem with brackets which is a bit weird. I took them out during the lengthy and tedious attempts to post and it finally worked!

[joshcowin]

naturals said:

Question on between marathon training; is there a plan available when you're between one marathon and another, aiming to improve time / comfort around the route?

I'm running a full marathon on Sunday (first in nearly seven years), and then I have an ultra and a half later in the year, possibly another marathon. It feels very much like the training is all bets off once past the marathon. Do you just design your own plan or are there customisable plans available?

There will be better qualified/more knowledgable people to answer this BUT.

How I would approach that is to have 2 weeks of unstructured running after your marathon. Then straight into building for your ultra, I think you will have to decide which of the ultra and HM you are most bothered about performing best in UNLESS you have 2-3 months between them.

Keep things really simple with training just consistently run, for the ultra building fatigue throughout the week will be important, whereas being recovered and fresh for hard interval sessions will benefit your HM more.

I would get in run nutrition sorted in this time also so that when the ultra comes around you are confident you wont be struggling. Also strength training may be beneficial.

[Scabutz]

naturals said:

Question on between marathon training; is there a plan available when you're between one marathon and another, aiming to improve time / comfort around the route?

I'm running a full marathon on Sunday (first in nearly seven years), and then I have an ultra and a half later in the year, possibly another marathon. It feels very much like the training is all bets off once past the marathon. Do you just design your own plan or are there customisable plans available?

Have a look at Hal Higdon's plans, he has plans for various levels from novice, to experienced marathon runners and those looking for a PB

https://www.halhigdon.com/training-programs/marath...

You can feed that in to something like Training Peaks and then tweak to your own preferences

[naturals]

Thanks to the two of you for the responses, really useful.

The drama around Paris continues - no sooner do they clear up the marathon is going ahead than my flight gets cancelled. Unfortunately, I work for the airline so no compensation / alternative arrangements need to be provided.

I've hastily booked a ferry and hope my 150,000-mile car gets me there and back safely.

[Austin_Metro]

naturals said:

Thanks to the two of you for the responses, really useful.

The drama around Paris continues - no sooner do they clear up the marathon is going ahead than my flight gets cancelled. Unfortunately, I work for the airline so no compensation / alternative arrangements need to be provided.

I've hastily booked a ferry and hope my 150,000-mile car gets me there and back safely.

Great commitment!

[naturals]

Austin_Metro said:

Great commitment!

I'm absolutely raging about it all. That has to be good motivation for a PB, right?

[Austin_Metro]

naturals said:

I'm absolutely raging about it all. That has to be good motivation for a PB, right?

If you can channel the rage for 42 km I’d be really impressed. Perhaps suppress it and call for it over those tricky last 5 or 6 km!?!

[Abbott]

naturals said:

Thanks to the two of you for the responses, really useful.

The drama around Paris continues - no sooner do they clear up the marathon is going ahead than my flight gets cancelled. Unfortunately, I work for the airline so no compensation / alternative arrangements need to be provided.

I've hastily booked a ferry and hope my 150,000-mile car gets me there and back safely.

I went into Paris centre a couple of times this week and apart from the plies of rubbish it was generally quite calm.
If you are driving over be prepared, there have been quite a few ferry cancellations and delays this week due to bad weather and it looks like the high winds are due to continue.
Also as a result of fuel distribution strikes there may be queues for fuel so make sure you top up in the UK before crossing.

[naturals]

Abbott said:

I went into Paris centre a couple of times this week and apart from the plies of rubbish it was generally quite calm.
If you are driving over be prepared, there have been quite a few ferry cancellations and delays this week due to bad weather and it looks like the high winds are due to continue.
Also as a result of fuel distribution strikes there may be queues for fuel so make sure you top up in the UK before crossing.

Thanks for the tips Abbott. You've just reminded me I didn't stop for fuel on the way home from work, and with a 3.30am alarm I may not have time tomorrow. Doh!

[Smitters]

Scabutz said:

naturals said:

Question on between marathon training; is there a plan available when you're between one marathon and another, aiming to improve time / comfort around the route?

I'm running a full marathon on Sunday (first in nearly seven years), and then I have an ultra and a half later in the year, possibly another marathon. It feels very much like the training is all bets off once past the marathon. Do you just design your own plan or are there customisable plans available?

Have a look at Hal Higdon's plans, he has plans for various levels from novice, to experienced marathon runners and those looking for a PB

https://www.halhigdon.com/training-programs/marath...

You can feed that in to something like Training Peaks and then tweak to your own preferences

I would approach this in a few ways:

1) assuming the second marathon is inside 18 weeks away, I would essentially pick up a normal marathon plan and work it backwards. So you might race this Sunday, then have a couple of really easy weeks, whatever you need to recover properly (I quite like a-day-a-mile as a rule of thumb before pushing anything), then slot into the next plan at, e.g. week 6, or wherever it needs to be, to then use said plan to take you to race day.

2) during the easy few weeks, review what went well and badly in the previous plan and race and adapt accordingly. For instance, if you feel you could take more volume, find a more advanced plan that adds a day. Or if you need some strength and conditioning, add that in, or speed endurance in every other long run. It depends what is required. Loads of folks here have good session ideas so do ask for suggestions and you'll get some "fun" ideas.

3) for the long run, I would do a minimum of two hours no matter what the plan asks for until it asks for more - you will already have the endurance, but you don't want to be smashing super-long runs every weekend which will impact the mid-week sessions. Two hours to perhaps three, if very easy and before a rest week will be more than enough to keep the endurance ticking over until the plan ramps up again.

[scz4]

Afternoon all.

Just wondering how effective compression socks are to keeping shin splints at bay? Any recomendations?

I've not been bothered by then for 10+ years since I stopped playing football and squash. But I'm now onto week 3 of 16 for my marathon training plan and feeling them ever so slightly and worried that they'll get worse as I pass half marathon distance next weekend. I've been gradually building up 1km a week since mid Jan, so not jumped into it. Although I do think the increase in hill reps could be the issue rather than slower longer runs.

[boholoblanka]

scz4 said:

Afternoon all.

Just wondering how effective compression socks are to keeping shin splints at bay? Any recomendations?

I've not been bothered by then for 10+ years since I stopped playing football and squash. But I'm now onto week 3 of 16 for my marathon training plan and feeling them ever so slightly and worried that they'll get worse as I pass half marathon distance next weekend. I've been gradually building up 1km a week since mid Jan, so not jumped into it. Although I do think the increase in hill reps could be the issue rather than slower longer runs.

swiss company called compressport.

https://www.compressport.com/ch/fr/

these are the best