The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
Fuelling is over-used in my view. You see these people out on 5/10k runs with energy gels - Totally unnecessary IMO, at least for the amateur.
Pro's don't fuel for 5/10k either, maybe water on a 10k if it's hot but it's only 15 or 30 min run ffs. Makes me laugh when I see people doing 5k carrying a water bottle!john2443 said:
Muzzer79 said:
Fuelling is over-used in my view. You see these people out on 5/10k runs with energy gels - Totally unnecessary IMO, at least for the amateur.
Pro's don't fuel for 5/10k either, maybe water on a 10k if it's hot but it's only 15 or 30 min run ffs. Makes me laugh when I see people doing 5k carrying a water bottle!Anyway, I got my deferral from the Reading 1/2 about 3 weeks after it happened so at least I've got something to aim for over the Winter. My annual training top from London is purchased so I'm going to be looking for an Autumn race to get myself back into it. Any suggestions for a half in the South? I did the Farnham Pilgrim and the Purbeck Marathon a few years ago and I do like off road events.
john2443 said:
Pro's don't fuel for 5/10k either, maybe water on a 10k if it's hot but it's only 15 or 30 min run ffs. Makes me laugh when I see people doing 5k carrying a water bottle!
I've got no problem with someone running a 5K with water. I wouldn't run a 5K with a water bottle but my wife does as she's new to it and it's almost a sort of comfort blanket I suspect. It's when someone is using gel packets on a 5K that gets me, that is over the top.fiatpower said:
john2443 said:
Pro's don't fuel for 5/10k either, maybe water on a 10k if it's hot but it's only 15 or 30 min run ffs. Makes me laugh when I see people doing 5k carrying a water bottle!
I've got no problem with someone running a 5K with water. I wouldn't run a 5K with a water bottle but my wife does as she's new to it and it's almost a sort of comfort blanket I suspect. It's when someone is using gel packets on a 5K that gets me, that is over the top.Tycho said:
Anyway, I got my deferral from the Reading 1/2 about 3 weeks after it happened so at least I've got something to aim for over the Winter. My annual training top from London is purchased so I'm going to be looking for an Autumn race to get myself back into it. Any suggestions for a half in the South? I did the Farnham Pilgrim and the Purbeck Marathon a few years ago and I do like off road events.
Windsor Half at end of September is always good. - Not off road but a nice course (If you like hills)Down Tow, Up Flow half is also pretty good
The jiffle king said:
Tycho said:
Anyway, I got my deferral from the Reading 1/2 about 3 weeks after it happened so at least I've got something to aim for over the Winter. My annual training top from London is purchased so I'm going to be looking for an Autumn race to get myself back into it. Any suggestions for a half in the South? I did the Farnham Pilgrim and the Purbeck Marathon a few years ago and I do like off road events.
Windsor Half at end of September is always good. - Not off road but a nice course (If you like hills)Down Tow, Up Flow half is also pretty good
Just the annual reminder to enter the ballot of perpetual disappointment that is London Marathon...
I'm in. I've doubled my chances by donating my entry fee and getting a winter training top, mainly because my last London Marathon training top finally gave up the ghost and got chucked earlier this year.
As for fuelling, it's no different to feet and shoes. Everyone is different. Also, if you only do what you've always done, you'll only get what you always got. I don't imagine the pros running 58 minute halves are swigging solely on water from their personal bottles, but if you feel like no gets is better, or they result in GI distress, so be it. Personally, I can run to about 2.5 hours with no food or water. I don't though, because I like to get the most out of my training...
Also, as an aside for those well versed in my saga of porcelain legs and perpetual shin splints, my new physio prodded a spot on my shin, peeled me off the ceiling and immediately referred me for an MRI. Guess who may have a stress fracture? Bugger. Since 2019. Double bugger.
I'm in. I've doubled my chances by donating my entry fee and getting a winter training top, mainly because my last London Marathon training top finally gave up the ghost and got chucked earlier this year.
As for fuelling, it's no different to feet and shoes. Everyone is different. Also, if you only do what you've always done, you'll only get what you always got. I don't imagine the pros running 58 minute halves are swigging solely on water from their personal bottles, but if you feel like no gets is better, or they result in GI distress, so be it. Personally, I can run to about 2.5 hours with no food or water. I don't though, because I like to get the most out of my training...
Also, as an aside for those well versed in my saga of porcelain legs and perpetual shin splints, my new physio prodded a spot on my shin, peeled me off the ceiling and immediately referred me for an MRI. Guess who may have a stress fracture? Bugger. Since 2019. Double bugger.
Muzzer79 said:
Yes, I'm in the ballot too.
Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
Or, if you prefer to be less cynical:Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
London Marathon said:
If you choose to donate to the London Marathon Foundation when you enter the ballot, you’ll automatically be entered into a second ballot – doubling your chance of getting a place in the 2024 event. Your entry fee is also reduced from £69.99 to £49.99 if you’re successful in either ballot. And if you’re unsuccessful in both ballots, you’ll still receive a winter training top worth £60!
Muzzer79 said:
Yes, I'm in the ballot too.
Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
Yeah I felt like it was a bit odd also!Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
Also why am I giving details of my ethnicity when its a completely random ballot apparently!
Smitters said:
Muzzer79 said:
Yes, I'm in the ballot too.
Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
Or, if you prefer to be less cynical:Look, double your chances of getting in - simply gamble £50 on the highly likely chance that we won't give you a place and we'll cream even more money out of everyone!
London Marathon said:
If you choose to donate to the London Marathon Foundation when you enter the ballot, you’ll automatically be entered into a second ballot – doubling your chance of getting a place in the 2024 event. Your entry fee is also reduced from £69.99 to £49.99 if you’re successful in either ballot. And if you’re unsuccessful in both ballots, you’ll still receive a winter training top worth £60!
I don't begrudge them it - it's a great event and it's popularity speaks volumes. But let's not dress it up as some kind of realistic prospect of significantly increasing your chances of getting in.
tim2100 said:
I have also brought my annual reject jacket. And then booked a place at Manchester marathon to try and wipe the memory out the disaster of Manchester this year.
I've also entered Manchester, purely on the fact I have mates there and am fed up with the stress of overseas travel for a marathon.naturals said:
I've also entered Manchester, purely on the fact I have mates there and am fed up with the stress of overseas travel for a marathon.
I’ve booked Manchester as well! Also done the ballot for London so will see what happens with that (expecting my 4th rejection!)Thanks
Rob
Muzzer79 said:
Like I said - Gamble your £50 for a slightly less than needle-in-a-haystack chance.
I don't begrudge them it - it's a great event and it's popularity speaks volumes. But let's not dress it up as some kind of realistic prospect of significantly increasing your chances of getting in.
My view is I either purchased a £50 top and given it's "worth" £60, it probably cost >£5, so about £45 quid will go to charity, or, I got a discounted place at London with double the entry chance, so two slivers of a gnats whisker. It DOUBLES my (teeny tiny) chance. They obviously hope I focus on the first part.I don't begrudge them it - it's a great event and it's popularity speaks volumes. But let's not dress it up as some kind of realistic prospect of significantly increasing your chances of getting in.
For what it's worth, I was a non-binary minority last year, as an experiment. No dice. Any selective criteria would be bound by law, so I don't think they can choose via gender or ethnicity. Previously I think I've had to put an expected finish time and I would assume they use this to manage footfall and avoid course overcrowding. You could argue this as a safety issue, but I don't recall having to guesstimate this year, so maybe it's truly random. After charity, GFA, elites, clubs, deferrals and celebs, we all have an even chance for the remaining three spots...
Thisonepotato said:
Is a gait analysis worth it? I have no where local but over in London and I think many places do it free such as the ASICS store. Is it worth it?
I am running ASICS culmulus 23 at present and at 300km in getting some foot pain!
When I first started I just picked a pair of trainers I liked without knowing anything about them. I suffered really badly with injuries in the first couple of years of using those trainers but I put it down to being new. For my next trainers I went to a shop and got a gait analysis and they found I was overpronating so suggested some shoes for me and almost overnight all of my injuries disappeared.I am running ASICS culmulus 23 at present and at 300km in getting some foot pain!
300km could just be worn shoes though. Are you heavy? I was pretty heavy and went through shoes very quickly.
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