The Running Thread Vol 2
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Your Garmin should tell you what needs working on - look at the Load tab under Trainins Status section.
My low aerobic is always under the optimal range, the anaerobic is normally within the optimal range and the high aerobic slightly over the optimal range.
I need to do more slow work - perhaps you need to do less and work on the other areas?
My low aerobic is always under the optimal range, the anaerobic is normally within the optimal range and the high aerobic slightly over the optimal range.
I need to do more slow work - perhaps you need to do less and work on the other areas?
It always says I’m not doing enough anaerobic work. But I do the workouts the watch suggests! It doesn’t recommend those workouts very often. If I do ever miss a workout it will be base. I don’t miss a “proper” workout as such.
The anaerobic workouts for me are minute intervals at a sub 5k pace usually.
The anaerobic workouts for me are minute intervals at a sub 5k pace usually.
I would appreciate any input those qualified can give. Earlier in this thread I posted for some advice (run 3/4 days a week, 4-10 miles a time, previous shoes were Hoka Clifton 8's in an 8.5 but half a size too small I felt. Still managed to run a marathon minus a dead toe nail - what should my next shoes be?)
I took the advice, tried a few on and opted as suggested for the ASICS Nimbus 25's. They are really comfortable and my right foot loves them! However, despite multiple lacing formats and over 50 miles in them, my left foot toes (the smallest three) go numb after 2 miles and yesterday the sole of my foot was burning. I'm absolutely gutted, they were decent money and my right foot loves them. There's a thumb width between big toe and end of shoe, on both shoes.
So not sure whether I have a trapped nerve and all shoes will be poor on my left foot. Or, do I buy a pair of On Cloudsurfers in 8.5 (same size as my old, now gardening shoes!) or Hoka Clifton 8 or 9's in a 9, half a size up from my old ones.
I'd go to a store and try several on but as experience has told me, what feels right in a store doesn't necessarily on the road.
I don't care about price or colour.
Any advice appreciated please!
I took the advice, tried a few on and opted as suggested for the ASICS Nimbus 25's. They are really comfortable and my right foot loves them! However, despite multiple lacing formats and over 50 miles in them, my left foot toes (the smallest three) go numb after 2 miles and yesterday the sole of my foot was burning. I'm absolutely gutted, they were decent money and my right foot loves them. There's a thumb width between big toe and end of shoe, on both shoes.
So not sure whether I have a trapped nerve and all shoes will be poor on my left foot. Or, do I buy a pair of On Cloudsurfers in 8.5 (same size as my old, now gardening shoes!) or Hoka Clifton 8 or 9's in a 9, half a size up from my old ones.
I'd go to a store and try several on but as experience has told me, what feels right in a store doesn't necessarily on the road.
I don't care about price or colour.
Any advice appreciated please!
Edited by Oxfordporsche on Friday 22 March 08:07
Oxfordporsche said:
I would appreciate any input those qualified can give. Earlier in this thread I posted for some advice (run 3/4 days a week, 4-10 miles a time, previous shoes were Hoka Clifton 8's in an 8.5 but half a size too small I felt. Still managed to run a marathon minus a dead toe nail - what should my next shoes be?)
I took the advice, tried a few on and opted as suggested for the ASICS Nimbus 25's. They are really comfortable and my right foot loves them! However, despite multiple lacing formats and over 50 miles in them, my left foot toes (the smallest three) go numb after 2 miles and yesterday the sole of my foot was burning. I'm absolutely gutted, they were decent money and my right foot loves them. There's a thumb width between big toe and end of shoe, on both shoes.
So not sure whether I have a trapped nerve and all shoes will be poor on my left foot. Or, do I buy a pair of On Cloudsurfers in 8.5 (same size as my old, now gardening shoes!) or Hoka Clifton 8 or 9's in a 9, half a size up from my old ones.
I'd go to a store and try several on but as experience has told me, what feels right in a store doesn't necessarily on the road.
I don't care about price or colour.
Any advice appreciated please!
I'd be tempted to go to a physio first to see if there was anything going on with your feet - I had similar and it turned out to be limited flexibility in one of my big toes which was causing it. Mobility exercises, a toe spacer and a move to Altra shoes (zero drop and a wider toe box, but make sure your calfs are up to it if you try) have largely sorted it.I took the advice, tried a few on and opted as suggested for the ASICS Nimbus 25's. They are really comfortable and my right foot loves them! However, despite multiple lacing formats and over 50 miles in them, my left foot toes (the smallest three) go numb after 2 miles and yesterday the sole of my foot was burning. I'm absolutely gutted, they were decent money and my right foot loves them. There's a thumb width between big toe and end of shoe, on both shoes.
So not sure whether I have a trapped nerve and all shoes will be poor on my left foot. Or, do I buy a pair of On Cloudsurfers in 8.5 (same size as my old, now gardening shoes!) or Hoka Clifton 8 or 9's in a 9, half a size up from my old ones.
I'd go to a store and try several on but as experience has told me, what feels right in a store doesn't necessarily on the road.
I don't care about price or colour.
Any advice appreciated please!
Edited by Oxfordporsche on Friday 22 March 08:07
I ran my first trail race of the season yesterday, aptly named the San Salvatore Vertical in Ticino, Switzerland.
"Only" 3.2km but an almost constant 200m per km incline for a total of 608 vertical meters up to a 908m peak.
In general I consider myself a reasonable hiker and trail runner, regularly ticking off 1500m or more on longer days but I have to say, this race humbled me from basically the start of the incline (0.5km from the start line) all the way to the end. Terrain was generally rocky with some sections of man made steps.
Definitely messed up my pacing, it was a last minute entry so no real preparation in terms of training for the short sharp nature of the race. I was absolutely shattered by the top, Garmin estimating 800 calories in the 41 minutes it took to complete and a healthy dose of time in the anaerobic heart rate zone.
One thing I am struggling with though, a huge feeling of imposter syndrome at the start line, surrounded by others running the race who I assume to have much more preparation and experience - am I the only one to feel like this? It was somewhat magnified yesterday as it was only a small field of runners, perhaps 100 or so. Results have not been released yet but I estimate I was between middle and back of the pack (this in itself is crazy since 800m per hour climb rate is considered pretty good!)
Nice to get things started off though and ready for some longer runs as the weather improves!
"Only" 3.2km but an almost constant 200m per km incline for a total of 608 vertical meters up to a 908m peak.
In general I consider myself a reasonable hiker and trail runner, regularly ticking off 1500m or more on longer days but I have to say, this race humbled me from basically the start of the incline (0.5km from the start line) all the way to the end. Terrain was generally rocky with some sections of man made steps.
Definitely messed up my pacing, it was a last minute entry so no real preparation in terms of training for the short sharp nature of the race. I was absolutely shattered by the top, Garmin estimating 800 calories in the 41 minutes it took to complete and a healthy dose of time in the anaerobic heart rate zone.
One thing I am struggling with though, a huge feeling of imposter syndrome at the start line, surrounded by others running the race who I assume to have much more preparation and experience - am I the only one to feel like this? It was somewhat magnified yesterday as it was only a small field of runners, perhaps 100 or so. Results have not been released yet but I estimate I was between middle and back of the pack (this in itself is crazy since 800m per hour climb rate is considered pretty good!)
Nice to get things started off though and ready for some longer runs as the weather improves!
I've not been doing much running for a while due to injury, so this weekend was hard work.
I ran (and walked quite a lot) the Rotterdam Urban Trail race, which turned out to be about 13km. These races are great fun, running around a city and through various buildings. In this case it included the stadium (one of our group is a big Feyenoord fan so in heaven running through the tunnel), a foodhall, a couple of gyms, a massive indoor skatepark (with loads of kids having lessons), a street art place, a huge sports center (several volleyball games going on, sadly nobody in the gymnastic hall), and finished with a run though the SS Rotterdam (old cruise liner converted to a hotel). It was however bloody windy and we got soaked half way round.
I'm a bit stiff this morning
If you're ever in the Netherlands and fancy a run (I wouldn't really class them as a race as you have to stop quite a lot), they're a great way to see a city. So far we've done them in Rotterdam, Den Haag, Delft, Leiden, Haarlem and Den Bosch. https://urbantrailseries.nl/
One venue I'm going to have to go back to should appeal to PHers, Racesquare is a simulated F! racing place, with 4 motion simulators (didn't get a look to see how much motion) and 60 standard simulators (think very high end home racing sim setup) that can run with 20 cars in a race. https://www.racesquare.com/vestiging/rotterdam/
I ran (and walked quite a lot) the Rotterdam Urban Trail race, which turned out to be about 13km. These races are great fun, running around a city and through various buildings. In this case it included the stadium (one of our group is a big Feyenoord fan so in heaven running through the tunnel), a foodhall, a couple of gyms, a massive indoor skatepark (with loads of kids having lessons), a street art place, a huge sports center (several volleyball games going on, sadly nobody in the gymnastic hall), and finished with a run though the SS Rotterdam (old cruise liner converted to a hotel). It was however bloody windy and we got soaked half way round.
I'm a bit stiff this morning
If you're ever in the Netherlands and fancy a run (I wouldn't really class them as a race as you have to stop quite a lot), they're a great way to see a city. So far we've done them in Rotterdam, Den Haag, Delft, Leiden, Haarlem and Den Bosch. https://urbantrailseries.nl/
One venue I'm going to have to go back to should appeal to PHers, Racesquare is a simulated F! racing place, with 4 motion simulators (didn't get a look to see how much motion) and 60 standard simulators (think very high end home racing sim setup) that can run with 20 cars in a race. https://www.racesquare.com/vestiging/rotterdam/
So..... finished 121st at the Hastings Half yesterday with a time of 1:31:37. Gutted not to break 1:30 but have to be happy as my goal 10 weeks ago was sub 1:35.
Christ the last 3 miles was tough.... straight into a 20-30mph headwind along the seafront. Had a real case of jelly legs with 150m to go.
Not sure if I just spent too much energy on the mainly uphill first 6 miles, or if the wind was a bigger factor than I thought it would be, but certainly didn't like how I was feeling with 2 miles to go. Still, I beat my last effort from 16 years ago by over 8 minutes - got to be happy with that I guess!
Christ the last 3 miles was tough.... straight into a 20-30mph headwind along the seafront. Had a real case of jelly legs with 150m to go.
Not sure if I just spent too much energy on the mainly uphill first 6 miles, or if the wind was a bigger factor than I thought it would be, but certainly didn't like how I was feeling with 2 miles to go. Still, I beat my last effort from 16 years ago by over 8 minutes - got to be happy with that I guess!
Edited by Rosscow on Monday 25th March 15:54
First 10km event of the year on Saturday, approx. 900 entries running an out and back loop along a river bank, relatively flat on a combination of hard packed gravel / tarmac. What made this run even sweeter was free entry (although there was a stipulation that you had to pay if you never turned up!).
Weather was absolutely roasting (27 degrees) with absolutely no wind. To say it was a sweaty one would be an understatement!.
I started my Garmin as I crossed the start/finish line and recorded 44:50 but my official results show 46:05, however, it does not state if this is gun or chip time. I am inclined to believe this is gun time due to the large discrepancy and I (stupidly) started relatively far back as I was with my partner. She also had a similar discrepancy between her watch and the official timings.
Truthfully I am a little disappointed with the result as I had wanted to PB at sub 44 but given the weather, starting towards the back and also hiking in the morning, it was not to be.
Next one is a local 5k, one week on Sunday.
Weather was absolutely roasting (27 degrees) with absolutely no wind. To say it was a sweaty one would be an understatement!.
I started my Garmin as I crossed the start/finish line and recorded 44:50 but my official results show 46:05, however, it does not state if this is gun or chip time. I am inclined to believe this is gun time due to the large discrepancy and I (stupidly) started relatively far back as I was with my partner. She also had a similar discrepancy between her watch and the official timings.
Truthfully I am a little disappointed with the result as I had wanted to PB at sub 44 but given the weather, starting towards the back and also hiking in the morning, it was not to be.
Next one is a local 5k, one week on Sunday.
Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!
Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.
Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!
Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.
Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.
y2blade said:
Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!
Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.
Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.
I did Brighton yesterday... include some hill training as it's not as flat as they make out! Nothing steep but a few draining climbs. I'd carry on lifting as core and leg strength will be critical - maybe drop to twice a week as your mileage increases.I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!
Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.
Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.
Don't wait until your 18 week plan starts either - build a consistent running base as soon as you can and then supplement it with tempo and interval runs. YMMV but I find that I need around 6 months of consistent higher volume rather than three - but I'm an old git so you may not need as much!
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