The Running Thread Vol 2

[egor110]

northandy said:

BossHogg said:

A friend of mine has a brother who is taking part in an ultra marathon - 200 miles in 60 hours - needs his bumps feeling!!! I couldn't cycle 200 miles in 60 hours!

https://www.hardmoors110.org.uk/hardmoors-200/

http://event.opentracking.co.uk/hardmoors17/

Some serious achievements going on there this weekend, in my head prior I always assumed they stopped an slept a few hours, seems in many cases it was 30 mins at most.

I'm hoping to try some of their short events later this year maybe starting with their half distance

My physio did it , looks like she pulled out at the last check point .

[BossHogg]

northandy said:

BossHogg said:

A friend of mine has a brother who is taking part in an ultra marathon - 200 miles in 60 hours - needs his bumps feeling!!! I couldn't cycle 200 miles in 60 hours!

https://www.hardmoors110.org.uk/hardmoors-200/

http://event.opentracking.co.uk/hardmoors17/

Some serious achievements going on there this weekend, in my head prior I always assumed they stopped an slept a few hours, seems in many cases it was 30 mins at most.

I'm hoping to try some of their short events later this year maybe starting with their half distance

He managed to complete it in the allotted 60 hours, the quickest finished in 46 hours!!!

[RizzoTheRat]

dave0010 said:

Has anyone taken part in this race before

http://www.wingsforlifeworldrun.com/au/en/

People starting off at the same time around the world. In Melbourne the start time will be 9pm and you run along the motorway. Not sure if it sounds really cool or just a bit gimmicky.

Plus I'm not sure I fancy running 15 ish K then sitting on a bus and cramping up back towards the start line. Its just the fact the start line is just down the road from me that I'm tempted.

Did you go? The UK one was quite a nice event. We only managed 9.4 km but started near the back as we were pushing a wheel chair and not sure how quick we'd be. Took 3 minutes to cross the start line and the first few km were through the middle of Cambridge on fairly narrow roads so got slowed to a walk a few times.
We got caught only a few hundred metres from a bus stop, and having a wheel chair meant they put us on a bus first, but the bus then followed the course for a few km, meaning it was very slow and took about an hour to get back to the start.
They had a big screen set up in the park at the start showing footage from all the races. Lead runner did 88km, and lead wheel chair did 94km in Dubai.

[Challo]

Bracknell Half on Sunday and managed a 1.46 which is 6mins faster than my Reading Half a few months previous.

Going to focus on some 10k's over the summer and look to get a couple of half's in September/October if possible.

[johnwilliams77]

Challo said:

Bracknell Half on Sunday and managed a 1.46 which is 6mins faster than my Reading Half a few months previous.

Going to focus on some 10k's over the summer and look to get a couple of half's in September/October if possible.

Similar to my half time i think - what sort of miles / training do you put in for that?

[Challo]

johnwilliams77 said:

Challo said:

Bracknell Half on Sunday and managed a 1.46 which is 6mins faster than my Reading Half a few months previous.

Going to focus on some 10k's over the summer and look to get a couple of half's in September/October if possible.

Similar to my half time i think - what sort of miles / training do you put in for that?

I followed the standard half marathon training plans - 2 small runs mid-week and then longer run at the weekend. I do go to a small running style club and my mid week sessions are more aimed at threshold training. Each sessions i based around various tempo's aimed at a certain pace per km. These are then varied over distances, and have helped massively in improving my speed and also endurance.

I do need to have a chat with my coach on Friday as im now focusing on 10k over the summer and want to adjust the runs on a weekend.

Edited by Challo on Monday 8th May 10:45

[Smitters]

egor110 said:

Went out with a few others from the club and did 17 miles , was slower than i'd liked to of run at a average of 11 min miles but at the end i was fresh and could of carried on.

Tested 3 gels at 5 mile intervals and didn't st myself so that's all good

One way of getting long runs in is to pre-run. Do five miles, then meet the club. That way you have friends and motivation when it's hard. Tacking five miles on to the end of a run is mentally much tougher, though there's value in this to, training the mind and all that.

I did the Stroud Trails Marathon on Sunday - a very pleasant if hot jaunt up and down the Cotswold hills. Tried to keep it easy for as long as possible as a training run for a July ultra, but there is a point when the only easy option is standing still! This came at about 18 miles and three hills in, so I have a fair way to go in endurance terms, especially as I found it hard to run at all at my target ultra heartrate/effort level. 20 odd miles is too early to be walking a lot in an ultra, so more early pacing practice, more walk breaks, better fuelling and better leg strength required. Easy!

[dave0010]

RizzoTheRat said:

Did you go? The UK one was quite a nice event. We only managed 9.4 km but started near the back as we were pushing a wheel chair and not sure how quick we'd be. Took 3 minutes to cross the start line and the first few km were through the middle of Cambridge on fairly narrow roads so got slowed to a walk a few times.
We got caught only a few hundred metres from a bus stop, and having a wheel chair meant they put us on a bus first, but the bus then followed the course for a few km, meaning it was very slow and took about an hour to get back to the start.
They had a big screen set up in the park at the start showing footage from all the races. Lead runner did 88km, and lead wheel chair did 94km in Dubai.

I didn't in the end. It was about $75 here and I couldn't justify it because I had been to the footy the night before. I do enjoy random events so will keep an eye out in the future for this event

[anonymous-user]

I had a tough 10k at the weekend.

I've not been running well recently-not been sleeping well and moving jobs/houses has restricted me to 2-3 short runs per week rather than my normal 6+ and it showed! Went off at a 'normal' race pace of just sub-6 minute miling and quickly found myself in trouble after two miles. Went all the way back to 6:50 per mile at one point and just finished sub-40. I'd like to be below 36 ideally.

Just out of interest-does anyone else find they don't get on with certain race distances? I always find 10k on the road "odd" to run, whereas 5 miles feels much more natural pacing/strategy wise.

[RC1807]

Struggled with a local 10km yesterday, but, to be fair, that was on the back of Saturday at Spa-Francorchamps for WEC Round 2, which involved much walking (if you've been there, you'll know how hilly it is), and, *ahem* quite a lot of beer.
So, reading above a pace of 6:50/mi., rather puts my 9:30/mi pace into a box, to be hidden away...for a long time

L/H business trip to Latin America next week means I get back on Fri 19/5 to do a 10km on Sat morning, which will be "fun" after 18 hours travelling the day before (Montevideo-Buenos Aires-Frankfurt-Luxembourg)

[RizzoTheRat]

dave0010 said:

I didn't in the end. It was about $75 here and I couldn't justify it because I had been to the footy the night before. I do enjoy random events so will keep an eye out in the future for this event

That seems quite expensive, not sure how much our entry was.

I can see for people going a bit faster than us that its am interesting race as your not sure how far is going to be so don't really know how to pace it.

Just got a results e-mail, I finished 70m ahead of my wife, but 471 places ahead (across all the different locations), that's a lot of people.

[Cybertronian]

cookie118 said:

I had a tough 10k at the weekend.

I've not been running well recently-not been sleeping well and moving jobs/houses has restricted me to 2-3 short runs per week rather than my normal 6+ and it showed! Went off at a 'normal' race pace of just sub-6 minute miling and quickly found myself in trouble after two miles. Went all the way back to 6:50 per mile at one point and just finished sub-40. I'd like to be below 36 ideally.

Just out of interest-does anyone else find they don't get on with certain race distances? I always find 10k on the road "odd" to run, whereas 5 miles feels much more natural pacing/strategy wise.

I know what you mean regarding 10k races - it's my least favourite distance and my PBs reflect that, where my 5k and half marathon times suggest I should be finishing faster.

For me, it's purely down to the lack of emphasis on 10k. I rarely race the distance, though I do find my tolerance for the pace improves after a couple of 10k races in late spring/early summer.

[egor110]

Smitters said:

egor110 said:

Went out with a few others from the club and did 17 miles , was slower than i'd liked to of run at a average of 11 min miles but at the end i was fresh and could of carried on.

Tested 3 gels at 5 mile intervals and didn't st myself so that's all good

One way of getting long runs in is to pre-run. Do five miles, then meet the club. That way you have friends and motivation when it's hard. Tacking five miles on to the end of a run is mentally much tougher, though there's value in this to, training the mind and all that.

I did the Stroud Trails Marathon on Sunday - a very pleasant if hot jaunt up and down the Cotswold hills. Tried to keep it easy for as long as possible as a training run for a July ultra, but there is a point when the only easy option is standing still! This came at about 18 miles and three hills in, so I have a fair way to go in endurance terms, especially as I found it hard to run at all at my target ultra heartrate/effort level. 20 odd miles is too early to be walking a lot in an ultra, so more early pacing practice, more walk breaks, better fuelling and better leg strength required. Easy!

This is what i did last week but i'm not sure whether to ditch the thursday club run and run to and home from the tuesday club run instead?

I think i'll be doing my back to back runs sunday long and monday shorter as my mrs goes spinning monday so she can drop me off and i'll run to her gym for a lift home , only issue is my runs will all be the beginning of the week.

Sun - long run

Mon - 5 miles

Tues - 12 miles

then i'll probably go spinning on weds

[Willy Nilly]

My Parkrun PB was 17:54 for nearly 2 years. In March I did 17:40 at our club time trial and felt like doing cart wheels everywhere. Then my next 5k race was the local Parkrun where I did 17:36 and again, felt cart wheels were in order. Tonight was our club time trial again and I got 17:29. 3 x 5k on the bounce

[egor110]

After sundays 17 miler i did my back to back run today , 6.5 miles with a average of 8.30 min mile.

Legs were pretty heavy after sunday and i couldn't push so after 2 miles turned the strava volume down and stopped trying , so was quite surprised it averaged out at 8.30 considering i just cruised around .

Club run tomorrow , not sure if i'm going to drive in and do 6-7 miles with the quick group or run 3 miles in and 3 out and do another 6-7 with a slower group to get more time on my feet.

[markh1973]

egor110 said:

After sundays 17 miler i did my back to back run today , 6.5 miles with a average of 8.30 min mile.

Legs were pretty heavy after sunday and i couldn't push so after 2 miles turned the strava volume down and stopped trying , so was quite surprised it averaged out at 8.30 considering i just cruised around .

Club run tomorrow , not sure if i'm going to drive in and do 6-7 miles with the quick group or run 3 miles in and 3 out and do another 6-7 with a slower group to get more time on my feet.

My experience - coming off 3 marathons in 3 days in March and building up to 100km in July - is that you need to get used to running on tired legs.

Based on the I'm not convinced that dropping a day from the plan is a great one but that doesn't mean it won't work for you.

I need to get back to training properly (was in Indua for a week working and then been ill) but that will roughly look like this

Sunday - long run
Monday - rest
Tuesday - 8/9 miles including club run
Wednesday - steady 6 miles
Thurs AM - quicker 6 miles
Thurs PM - steady 6 miles
Friday - rest
Saturday - parkrun

[cannondale]

A good friend of mine and one of his mates are running around Wales just now for Mental Health. 1,700km in 20 odd days. Very inspirational and deserve a medal for even contemplating the thought in the first place.

https://chasingthedragon.run

[RizzoTheRat]

Willy Nilly said:

felt like doing cart wheels everywhere.

Strange, I felt like lying down, and maybe throwing up, last time I got a parkrun PB

[Willy Nilly]

RizzoTheRat said:

Willy Nilly said:

felt like doing cart wheels everywhere.

Strange, I felt like lying down, and maybe throwing up, last time I got a parkrun PB

Well yes, death felt like a good option immediately after but once the grim reaper sodded off, euphoria set in

[AndStilliRise]

Willy Nilly said:

My Parkrun PB was 17:54 for nearly 2 years. In March I did 17:40 at our club time trial and felt like doing cart wheels everywhere. Then my next 5k race was the local Parkrun where I did 17:36 and again, felt cart wheels were in order. Tonight was our club time trial again and I got 17:29. 3 x 5k on the bounce

Nice. I have always said the 5k is a great measure of fitness. Sub18 is an athletes time!