The Running Thread Vol 2

[anonymous-user]

The Good Run Guide site has some superb routes all over the country that have been verified - and tell you where you can park.

Just download the gpx and away i go - ive ran through some lovely places.

Downside is £15 a year but has been well worth it for me.

[johnwilliams77]

RaymondVanDerDon said:

The Good Run Guide site has some superb routes all over the country that have been verified - and tell you where you can park.

Just download the gpx and away i go - ive ran through some lovely places.

Downside is £15 a year but has been well worth it for me.

How is it done? Download gpx from site then upload to garmin / watch software?

[anonymous-user]

johnwilliams77 said:

How is it done? Download gpx from site then upload to garmin / watch software?

Yes i download the gpx and upload to my tomtom watch; or there is a direct to garmin option if your garmin equipment supports that.

[tenohfive]

I'm a bit hesitant to start paying for something like that. I'm already paying for the OS maps service (which is worth every penny mind.) Everything these days needs a subscription it seems.

I do normally quite enjoy plotting out a route on OS maps, porting it across and exploring. Much better than the Garmin Connect method (if off-road.)
I must try again with Strava, hopefully it was just a server issue last time.

[feef]

My Salomon Adv Skin 5 vest turned up last night. Didn't realise it came supplied with two 500ml water packs as standard, so I have two of the quick-release top ones surplus to requirements (as the quick release top is wider than the standard one so doesn't fit in the little elastic retaining loop)

Fit is really good, I'm genuinely surprised at how un-noticeable it is when you're wearing it. So far I've only been up and down the stairs wearing it, but will take it out for a run this weekend some time. Even if I'm not doing a massive distance to 'justify' wearing it, it'll be a pleasant change to not have to have something in my hand.

[The jiffle king]

Been back in the UK for about 10 days and enjoyed running in the cooler weather. I have weeks until a 10k race and wondered if anyone had any advice on how to get a final bit of speed in the legs over the next couple of weeks?
The 10k is the largest in the world, the Peachtree road race where the course is 5km down 5km uphill in 30C heat or hotter. I've got the endurance, but suggestions on speed would be great

[tenohfive]

feef said:

My Salomon Adv Skin 5 vest turned up last night. Didn't realise it came supplied with two 500ml water packs as standard, so I have two of the quick-release top ones surplus to requirements (as the quick release top is wider than the standard one so doesn't fit in the little elastic retaining loop)

I'm trying to work out what you're referring to here, as I have both the standard bottles and the newer Speed flasks (with the rigid base and wider opening) and both fit quite happily into my Adv Skin 3 5 Set.

I will say this about the change in flask design. I initially resented having to shell out for the speed flasks purely because I wanted straws (the older style ones are like hens teeth) but the new design does work better. The base makes it easier to get in and out and once you've learned the knack with the top - to line up flush, push down and then turn - they're noticeably quicker and easier to refill. And get extras into i.e. tabs.

And I completely agree about comfort etc - over £100 is a lot to pay but you really do get what you pay for. Mine has been getting weekly use on my LSR's and I prefer it to the variety of bum bags I own for inobtrusiveness when I want to stash hat/gloves/food away. Shorter runs I can live with a Spibelt but if I'm taking fluids I generally take the vest.

Edited by tenohfive on Friday 16th June 10:40

[feef]

tenohfive said:

feef said:

My Salomon Adv Skin 5 vest turned up last night. Didn't realise it came supplied with two 500ml water packs as standard, so I have two of the quick-release top ones surplus to requirements (as the quick release top is wider than the standard one so doesn't fit in the little elastic retaining loop)

I'm trying to work out what you're referring to here, as I have both the standard bottles and the newer Speed flasks (with the rigid base and wider opening) and both fit quite happily into my Adv Skin 3 5 Set.

I will say this about the change in flask design. I initially resented having to shell out for the speed flasks purely because I wanted straws (the older style ones are like hens teeth) but the new design does work better. The base makes it easier to get in and out and once you've learned the knack with the top - to line up flush, push down and then turn - they're noticeably quicker and easier to refill. And get extras into i.e. tabs.

And I completely agree about comfort etc - over £100 is a lot to pay but you really do get what you pay for. Mine has been getting weekly use on my LSR's and I prefer it to the variety of bum bags I own for inobtrusiveness when I want to stash hat/gloves/food away. Shorter runs I can live with a Spibelt but if I'm taking fluids I generally take the vest.

Edited by tenohfive on Friday 16th June 10:40

They both fit in the pocket fine, but pocket has a little additonal elastic loop at the opening which you loop over the screw-top to stop it dropping down into the pocket as it empties. The quick-release top is wider so the elastic loop doesn't fit over it. I'll try it with both, it might be that the wider top just doesn't drop down as much even without the loop to hold it in place. It may be a new addition to the design. I'll maybe take a photo later to demonstrate if it helps

And yes, it's not cheap, but I get a hefty discount off all Amer Sport brands as I'm a BASI ski instructor.

[tenohfive]

feef said:

They both fit in the pocket fine, but pocket has a little additonal elastic loop at the opening which you loop over the screw-top to stop it dropping down into the pocket as it empties. The quick-release top is wider so the elastic loop doesn't fit over it. I'll try it with both, it might be that the wider top just doesn't drop down as much even without the loop to hold it in place. It may be a new addition to the design. I'll maybe take a photo later to demonstrate if it helps

And yes, it's not cheap, but I get a hefty discount off all Amer Sport brands as I'm a BASI ski instructor.

I never realised what that was what they were for. The straws seem to sort that problem for me in any event but handy to know.

[BurblingBrownOne]

TeaNoSugar said:

Thanks for the advice - the OMM classic 25litre is the one I was thinking of goig for anyway. The sleeping bag is my main sticking point, I just can't bring my self to shell out the thick end of £300 on a sleeping bag. This one was recommended on another forum:

http://downsleepingbag.co.uk/sleeping-bags/Yeti-V-...

I think that would do it. The small pack size is quite important but I don't want to be lying in a freezing tent wishing I'd just got the better one. I'm not a good sleeper either!

Check out AlpKit's range of goosedown sleeping bags - I got one for the last Rab Mt Marathon, it packs down very small and was very warm, use it a lot camping in Scotland and have never felt cold.

[dave0010]

I did a small run tonight and my Garmin connect app hasn't pushed the file on through to Strava, any advice how I can get the 2 to talk to each other again? Before it was almost instantaneous

[Mothersruin]

I hate the heat

[The jiffle king]

dave0010 said:

I did a small run tonight and my Garmin connect app hasn't pushed the file on through to Strava, any advice how I can get the 2 to talk to each other again? Before it was almost instantaneous

This has happened to me a couple of times. Usually it will be there in 24 hours, but I've done the old switch on/off of the phone and watch to make this happen as well.

[feef]

Mothersruin said:

I hate the heat

Yup.

That and my hayfever; stinking headaches due to being clogged up and generally feeling bleh.

Has anyone ever died from dehydration due to a runny nose? :/

[smn159]

Mothersruin said:

I hate the heat

I had a long run pencilled in for tonight but it's still going to be 29 degrees at 7pm so I might skip it

[SpydieNut]

smn159 said:

Mothersruin said:

I hate the heat

I had a long run pencilled in for tonight but it's still going to be 29 degrees at 7pm so I might skip it

trust me - run

you can't understand how lucky you are to be *able* to run until you can't.

i am 5 and a half weeks into recovering from a broken ankle and all i want to do is get out and run. 10 days since coming out of the cast and i was able to do some ankle physio ( you wouldn't believe how seized up the ankle was after 4 weeks in a cast, and my calves and thighs are 4cm smaller than my other leg, due to muscle wasting), then used the walking boot for a few days then started walking around a little. i was chuffed to walk unaided (slowly) 500m on Friday, walked around shops on Sat and then maybe 1km last night. the ankle is getting there, but my calf feels like it's pulling as it's not used to propelling me anymore, and the discomfort from the tendons under my toes (and the bottom of the ball of my foot) are very uncomfortable when pushing off. i had hoped the consultant was exaggerating when he said 3-6 months at least before running again, but maybe . doing as much as i can though to get there sooner.

[andy_s]

SpydieNut said:

trust me - run

you can't understand how lucky you are to be *able* to run until you can't.

i am 5 and a half weeks into recovering from a broken ankle and all i want to do is get out and run. 10 days since coming out of the cast and i was able to do some ankle physio ( you wouldn't believe how seized up the ankle was after 4 weeks in a cast, and my calves and thighs are 4cm smaller than my other leg, due to muscle wasting), then used the walking boot for a few days then started walking around a little. i was chuffed to walk unaided (slowly) 500m on Friday, walked around shops on Sat and then maybe 1km last night. the ankle is getting there, but my calf feels like it's pulling as it's not used to propelling me anymore, and the discomfort from the tendons under my toes (and the bottom of the ball of my foot) are very uncomfortable when pushing off. i had hoped the consultant was exaggerating when he said 3-6 months at least before running again, but maybe . doing as much as i can though to get there sooner.

My wife broke her foot last June (drunk ) and after a month in various shades of cast she was itching to get running (me & the boys were too - insufferable fidgetness from her!) but took it slowly, mixing with gym stuff, bike, core etc despite herself. Started running very gradually in November and was bogged down again with various school-gotten flu/colds which slowed her even more. Picked things up again properly in about March and said she felt stronger than pre-accident due to the gym work, rest and quality running she was doing rather than just getting out all the time for a plod. She's doing the West Highland Way race for the second time next weekend and feels very confident in doing better than her previous time.

A Spanish lady at work had a nasty break in her ankle a few years ago, again itching to get on and went out too hard too soon and re-broke the ankle again, it needed pining and proper physio and still gives her pain to this day - she now cycles and rock climbs but has given up the trails.

Apocryphal tales, but take it easy and don't rush out too soon - Dr's maxim - first, do no harm!

[SpydieNut]

andy_s said:

My wife broke her foot last June (drunk ) and after a month in various shades of cast she was itching to get running (me & the boys were too - insufferable fidgetness from her!) but took it slowly, mixing with gym stuff, bike, core etc despite herself. Started running very gradually in November and was bogged down again with various school-gotten flu/colds which slowed her even more. Picked things up again properly in about March and said she felt stronger than pre-accident due to the gym work, rest and quality running she was doing rather than just getting out all the time for a plod. She's doing the West Highland Way race for the second time next weekend and feels very confident in doing better than her previous time.

A Spanish lady at work had a nasty break in her ankle a few years ago, again itching to get on and went out too hard too soon and re-broke the ankle again, it needed pining and proper physio and still gives her pain to this day - she now cycles and rock climbs but has given up the trails.

Apocryphal tales, but take it easy and don't rush out too soon - Dr's maxim - first, do no harm!

true enough and thank you

definitely want to be sensible about it, but all i seem to see now are runners and cyclists enjoying the weather

but i borrowed a turbo trainer from a friend at the weekend, so will get that set up tonight and give it a gentle go

[egor110]

tenohfive said:

Has anyone come across a way to find decent pre-existing running routes that can be downloaded as a .gpx? Garmin seems pretty useless unless there's something I'm doing wrong, I don't seem to be able to access other peoples pre-existing routes on Strava.

I find myself working away soon and just want to be able to have a route pre-plotted that I know will either be pleasant or at least safe that I can then load on my watch.

I just go to strava activities then search the area i want to run exmoor/quantocks/dartmoor and then it comes up with loads of mountain bike or running routes.

I then copy them into a route i've created and load it into my phone before a run .

[andy_s]

SpydieNut said:

true enough and thank you

definitely want to be sensible about it, but all i seem to see now are runners and cyclists enjoying the weather

but i borrowed a turbo trainer from a friend at the weekend, so will get that set up tonight and give it a gentle go

Mrs_s said being disciplined about it was tougher mentally than the WHWR!

Good luck & don't worry - it'll start pishing down soon enough...probably as soon as you get your shoes back on....