The Running Thread Vol 2
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Cheeky lunchtime 12k. Struggled to keep my heart rate as low as I'd like as I wend my way into winter base building be really pleased that I seem to have retained some speed and some endurance despite a ridiculously interrupted summer of training/racing.
Now trying to plan the autumn fun races, winter plans and my long term plan for Comrades and when I need to commit to it.
Now trying to plan the autumn fun races, winter plans and my long term plan for Comrades and when I need to commit to it.
Cybertronian said:
Smitters said:
Now trying to plan the autumn fun races, winter plans and my long term plan for Comrades and when I need to commit to it.
Wow. Good luck with Comrades! Will next year be the up or down route?Well, who'd have thunk it!
The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
I've had a recent similar experience.
My wife, who has previously been exercise averse, started training and recently completed her first 10k race. She's now got her eye on the Brighton Half Marathon in February, and is looking at doing another 10k and a 10 mile race en route to that.
For my wife, the key has been consistency by going a couple of times a week and running with a local women's group where they're all of a similar pace, but she's probably the fastest of the bunch to give her a confidence boost.
My wife, who has previously been exercise averse, started training and recently completed her first 10k race. She's now got her eye on the Brighton Half Marathon in February, and is looking at doing another 10k and a 10 mile race en route to that.
For my wife, the key has been consistency by going a couple of times a week and running with a local women's group where they're all of a similar pace, but she's probably the fastest of the bunch to give her a confidence boost.
Mothersruin said:
Well, who'd have thunk it!
The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
One more thing possibly: cans he get her form checked by a running school/coach? There are specific schools to help you get your cadence up by certain heel kick drills, etc, really helps.The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
Mothersruin said:
Well, who'd have thunk it!
The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
Not very cool at all, I also made the mistake of introducing my wife to running a few years ago; now I'm being woken at 5am for a quick five before breakfast, even the dog hides when he hears the rummaging about in the running cupboard. At least she confined her niche to long long runs before, unfortunately, a few weekends ago she did a long hill race* around Glencoe and much to my chagrin she decided she loved it and wanted to do more 'of that sort of thing'. I can hear the clicking of a mouse as she now has to change from Hokas to Inov8s, of course.The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
To paraphrase Shelly, I have created a monster...
*Ring of Steall - an hour slower than last time as hopelessly undertrained and had bizarre vomiting about half way around which I've never had before. It was quite a nice surprise to have the medal put around my neck by Jasmin Paris, more of a surprise for her when I threw up all over it though I think...
andy_s said:
Not very cool at all, I also made the mistake of introducing my wife to running a few years ago; now I'm being woken at 5am for a quick five before breakfast, even the dog hides when he hears the rummaging about in the running cupboard. At least she confined her niche to long long runs before, unfortunately, a few weekends ago she did a long hill race* around Glencoe and much to my chagrin she decided she loved it and wanted to do more 'of that sort of thing'. I can hear the clicking of a mouse as she now has to change from Hokas to Inov8s, of course.
To paraphrase Shelly, I have created a monster...
*Ring of Steall - an hour slower than last time as hopelessly undertrained and had bizarre vomiting about half way around which I've never had before. It was quite a nice surprise to have the medal put around my neck by Jasmin Paris, more of a surprise for her when I threw up all over it though I think...
Haha brilliant!! Well done on completing it with the missus!To paraphrase Shelly, I have created a monster...
*Ring of Steall - an hour slower than last time as hopelessly undertrained and had bizarre vomiting about half way around which I've never had before. It was quite a nice surprise to have the medal put around my neck by Jasmin Paris, more of a surprise for her when I threw up all over it though I think...
My race went ok, albeit not to plan! Was running steady & felt good looking for a time around 5hrs but had a moment on the last climb (feeling a touch dizzy etc) so took it easy then i fell with 3 miles to go on the treacherous muddy decent and smashed my knee so hobbled back to the finish just under 6hrs!
Was an amazing day and stunning views over to Ben Nevis etc up the ridges...guess i'll have to go back now next year to get that 5hrs or under!
Been caught up in triathlon and doing an ironman this year so been running long and slow, never really pushing on much, trying to keep my heart rate fairly low.
Went out this morning and thought I would try to push on a little bit over 10km to see how i did. 47mins 20 seconds ish was the result, fairly pleased with that to be honest as it wasn't exactly flat either.
Its miles away from where i was about 3/4 years ago when i was more into running but it will do.
Went out this morning and thought I would try to push on a little bit over 10km to see how i did. 47mins 20 seconds ish was the result, fairly pleased with that to be honest as it wasn't exactly flat either.
Its miles away from where i was about 3/4 years ago when i was more into running but it will do.
ED209 said:
Been caught up in triathlon and doing an ironman this year so been running long and slow, never really pushing on much, trying to keep my heart rate fairly low.
Went out this morning and thought I would try to push on a little bit over 10km to see how i did. 47mins 20 seconds ish was the result, fairly pleased with that to be honest as it wasn't exactly flat either.
Its miles away from where i was about 3/4 years ago when i was more into running but it will do.
Major hats off to you. I have trained 10-12hrs a week with cycling and running and I do not enjoy swimming enough to train enough to do whatever distance is required for a 70.3..... (anything more than 50m is too much Went out this morning and thought I would try to push on a little bit over 10km to see how i did. 47mins 20 seconds ish was the result, fairly pleased with that to be honest as it wasn't exactly flat either.
Its miles away from where i was about 3/4 years ago when i was more into running but it will do.
)johnwilliams77 said:
Major hats off to you. I have trained 10-12hrs a week with cycling and running and I do not enjoy swimming enough to train enough to do whatever distance is required for a 70.3..... (anything more than 50m is too much )
if you are doing 12hrs a week cycling and running then thats probably enough to do a full 140.6. as long as you get a long ride in and a long run each week. )A couple of hours swimming on top will see you alright, I hate swimming too and couldn't swim 25m two years ago but its a necessary evil. The plan i did peaked at 15hrs and that included 3 swims that week.
For a half two 30-40 min swims a week would get you round assuming you have a reasonable speed/technique.
ED209 said:
if you are doing 12hrs a week cycling and running then thats probably enough to do a full 140.6. as long as you get a long ride in and a long run each week.
A couple of hours swimming on top will see you alright, I hate swimming too and couldn't swim 25m two years ago but its a necessary evil. The plan i did peaked at 15hrs and that included 3 swims that week.
For a half two 30-40 min swims a week would get you round assuming you have a reasonable speed/technique.
From my strava thats about 45-50 miles a week running (18/20mile LR) and longest cycle of 2hrs ish at 30 something miles (total biking miles only 60-80 a week). I thought that would only be adequate for a half?! I guess ideally for a 70.3, a long cycle should be 3/4hrs?A couple of hours swimming on top will see you alright, I hate swimming too and couldn't swim 25m two years ago but its a necessary evil. The plan i did peaked at 15hrs and that included 3 swims that week.
For a half two 30-40 min swims a week would get you round assuming you have a reasonable speed/technique.
I despise swimming so much (for longer than 20mins) and all the stories of contact/face kicking, it puts me off. As soon as I stop enjoying it, I wont do it. I love the freedom of being outside cycling and running. Also, the 10-12hrs I week quoted is just the training time, doesn't include all the other faffing about. Preparing for long runs, extra washing clothes/showering, getting ready to go out on bike. Adding in swimming could easily take a good few more hours out of your actual life: travelling there, getting changed etc. /excuses! Oh, and I don't think I have anything like a reasonable technique but then again I haven't tried since I have been doing lots of running/cycling.
What event are you doing out of interest?
Edited by johnwilliams77 on Tuesday 26th September 12:52
andy_s said:
Mothersruin said:
Well, who'd have thunk it!
The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
Not very cool at all, I also made the mistake of introducing my wife to running a few years ago; now I'm being woken at 5am for a quick five before breakfast, even the dog hides when he hears the rummaging about in the running cupboard. At least she confined her niche to long long runs before, unfortunately, a few weekends ago she did a long hill race* around Glencoe and much to my chagrin she decided she loved it and wanted to do more 'of that sort of thing'. I can hear the clicking of a mouse as she now has to change from Hokas to Inov8s, of course.The wife has just surprised me.
I've always said that she needs to exercise more where her heart rate gets going a bit (she doesn't have any weight issues for instance, so that's not a motivator) as it'll have a whole bunch of benefits. She's had a crack on cross-trainers and the like when we've had access to gyms, but she's always shied away from running saying her flat feet and general build (all rubbish of course) means she'll never be a runner. I know that anything more than a couple of suggestions to do something will put walls up, she needs to come round to any decision, so have left it at that.
She's just told me that she'd like to give running a go!
She came with me to the half marathon yesterday and was completely bowled over by the fact that every single type of person possible was having a go, all ages, all shapes etc... having a damn good bash at it with a good vibe. She said it was very inspiring. It was the first time she'd seen anything like that.
She's just downloaded the C25K app (on my advice - is there anything else I should point her towards?) to her phone and we'll go shopping for shoes in the very near future! (and a running watch too!)
How cool is that!
To paraphrase Shelly, I have created a monster...
*Ring of Steall - an hour slower than last time as hopelessly undertrained and had bizarre vomiting about half way around which I've never had before. It was quite a nice surprise to have the medal put around my neck by Jasmin Paris, more of a surprise for her when I threw up all over it though I think...
Can't have her getting too keen!
AbzST64 said:
Haha brilliant!! Well done on completing it with the missus!
My race went ok, albeit not to plan! Was running steady & felt good looking for a time around 5hrs but had a moment on the last climb (feeling a touch dizzy etc) so took it easy then i fell with 3 miles to go on the treacherous muddy decent and smashed my knee so hobbled back to the finish just under 6hrs!
Was an amazing day and stunning views over to Ben Nevis etc up the ridges...guess i'll have to go back now next year to get that 5hrs or under!
Bloody hell that's still a bit quick!My race went ok, albeit not to plan! Was running steady & felt good looking for a time around 5hrs but had a moment on the last climb (feeling a touch dizzy etc) so took it easy then i fell with 3 miles to go on the treacherous muddy decent and smashed my knee so hobbled back to the finish just under 6hrs!
Was an amazing day and stunning views over to Ben Nevis etc up the ridges...guess i'll have to go back now next year to get that 5hrs or under!
Yep - fantastic weekend, very lucky again with the perfect weather (you need a bit of sleet for atmosphere!) and met up with loads of people - at the back of the bus that last descent was like a theme park mudslide - big effort just staying upright but tremendous fun!
We stayed on to watch the GCS race go up curved ridge on the Sunday, running hard but cool as cucumbers in the front pack but all with a smile or pithy comment - great to see.
johnwilliams77 said:
ED209 said:
if you are doing 12hrs a week cycling and running then thats probably enough to do a full 140.6. as long as you get a long ride in and a long run each week.
A couple of hours swimming on top will see you alright, I hate swimming too and couldn't swim 25m two years ago but its a necessary evil. The plan i did peaked at 15hrs and that included 3 swims that week.
For a half two 30-40 min swims a week would get you round assuming you have a reasonable speed/technique.
From my strava thats about 45-50 miles a week running (18/20mile LR) and longest cycle of 2hrs ish at 30 something miles (total biking miles only 60-80 a week). I thought that would only be adequate for a half?! I guess ideally for a 70.3, a long cycle should be 3/4hrs?A couple of hours swimming on top will see you alright, I hate swimming too and couldn't swim 25m two years ago but its a necessary evil. The plan i did peaked at 15hrs and that included 3 swims that week.
For a half two 30-40 min swims a week would get you round assuming you have a reasonable speed/technique.
I despise swimming so much (for longer than 20mins) and all the stories of contact/face kicking, it puts me off. As soon as I stop enjoying it, I wont do it. I love the freedom of being outside cycling and running. Also, the 10-12hrs I week quoted is just the training time, doesn't include all the other faffing about. Preparing for long runs, extra washing clothes/showering, getting ready to go out on bike. Adding in swimming could easily take a good few more hours out of your actual life: travelling there, getting changed etc. /excuses! Oh, and I don't think I have anything like a reasonable technique but then again I haven't tried since I have been doing lots of running/cycling.
What event are you doing out of interest?
Edited by johnwilliams77 on Tuesday 26th September 12:52
No more events now until the Lakesman again next year but just their new 70.3 this time.
How do people keep trainers for? I've never bothered tracking the mileage on them before but having bought a new pair the other day decided to add them to Strava and see how long they last. The default on Strava is to let you know after 400km and says the industry reckons you should replace them after 500-800km. Is that generally seen as being about right?
I don't do very much at all compared to many on here, but 500km still works out at only about 6 months.
I don't do very much at all compared to many on here, but 500km still works out at only about 6 months.
Everybody's different, but I find my shoes for longer runs are at their limit beyond 400 miles (640km). Visually, there is almost always next to no wear and tear on the upper, but there's usually a lot of creasing in the cushioning midsole foam. As somebody that forefoot strikes, the wear and tear of the midsole and rubber outsole is compounded by there physically being less material towards the front of the shoe versus the rear.
My racing and speed work/tempo shoes generally see between 100 to 300 miles:
- ultra lightweight shoes for 5k and 10k last about 100 miles
- half marathon and marathon shoes get to about 200 miles
- speed work/tempo shoes often last for 250 to 300 miles
My racing and speed work/tempo shoes generally see between 100 to 300 miles:
- ultra lightweight shoes for 5k and 10k last about 100 miles
- half marathon and marathon shoes get to about 200 miles
- speed work/tempo shoes often last for 250 to 300 miles
Cybertronian said:
Everybody's different, but I find my shoes for longer runs are at their limit beyond 400 miles (640km). Visually, there is almost always next to no wear and tear on the upper, but there's usually a lot of creasing in the cushioning midsole foam. As somebody that forefoot strikes, the wear and tear of the midsole and rubber outsole is compounded by there physically being less material towards the front of the shoe versus the rear.
My racing and speed work/tempo shoes generally see between 100 to 300 miles:
- ultra lightweight shoes for 5k and 10k last about 100 miles
- half marathon and marathon shoes get to about 200 miles
- speed work/tempo shoes often last for 250 to 300 miles
Goodness, plenty of runners hit over 2000 miles a year, that's a lot of shoes at those mileages!My racing and speed work/tempo shoes generally see between 100 to 300 miles:
- ultra lightweight shoes for 5k and 10k last about 100 miles
- half marathon and marathon shoes get to about 200 miles
- speed work/tempo shoes often last for 250 to 300 miles
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