The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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smn159 said:
ukaskew said:
Hugely impressive. I think I’m doing it all wrong, as I’ve been running for 18 months now and somehow getting heavier and slower! Within 6 months I was down to a 24min 5k and 50min 10k, I’m now at 27mins and an hour respectively. Put on nearly a stone in that time too. I had to walk some of the 10k as my legs just didn’t have it in them.

I’m a bit all over the place in terms of getting runs in, lucky to average 2 per week quite often due to young family and two jobs. I wonder if losing the speed run (parkrun) is the issue, as I rarely get to do that anymore but did it fairly consistently last year and would always really really push myself.

Seriously demotivating! If it wasn’t for the weight issue too I’d just crack on and enjoy it, I ran a trail 12k yesterday and loved every second of it, paced myself to my current ability and felt I did ok, results come through and I was 285 out of 302!
Do you tend to do your runs at the same sort of pace? That could be the problem. Stretch to three runs a week if you can and make one a speed session (intervals), one a long slow run and one a hill session. Make your slow runs slow and your speed intervals fast.

Losing the weight will make a big difference as well (obvs)
If started to notice a decent weight shift now thanks to stepping up to three varied runs a week.

Slightly different to yours but seems to be working.

Today was Hill Sprints, so I warmed up with the Wife as she did her half hour C25K run, then did Hill Sprints until I couldn't walk, lol. Only 5 today, but up a bd hill for a fair distance. I'll mix it up with shorter sprints, different slopes etc... just to vary things a bit otherwise it can get to where I don't look forward to it (it's bloody hard work!) and the varying means I'm challenged by something new each time.

Mid week run will be probably be a 10k at a pace where I feel I'm working hard.

Then the end of week run will be a long slow plod for at least 20k.

What I'm finding is all of them mixed together are really helping as they all do different things.

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

126 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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I have been running 5/6 days a week. I work 7 days.

Running in the evenings generally with a longer run on Sunday mornings which is my late start. up to around 2hours with 20k plus on a Sunday. Skipped yesterday for a rest day.

I tend to mix it up during the week with a 7-10k couple of 5k ish runs and a 15k but just aim to go out and do a bit and see how I feel, if its going well and I have energy keep going.

Been really disciplined and motivated, finding it slightly harder now its gone cold though have to give myself a right talking to haha.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Went to a new run group last night a d they were so welcoming. We did 3 x 5 x 90 seconds with 1 min between reps and 2 mins between sets.

Some very good runners there so good motivation to carry on going. Great coach as well who was very open and encouraging.

Achilles a little sore but good today. Great to be the slowest in the group as it gives me something to aim at

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Had a cold most of the week, gone mad not being able to get out for a run - that alone is an amazing feeling as it's definitely become a lifestyle thing rather than something forced - feeling a bit better today so decided to go out for a gentle short run, and PB'd my 5k time- lol!

Legs felt great too - I guess the rest did them good. Still feeling a little heady and was puffing at the end.

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

126 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Had a cold most of the week, gone mad not being able to get out for a run - that alone is an amazing feeling as it's definitely become a lifestyle thing rather than something forced - feeling a bit better today so decided to go out for a gentle short run, and PB'd my 5k time- lol!

Legs felt great too - I guess the rest did them good. Still feeling a little heady and was puffing at the end.
I think that shows the importance of a few rest days. It becomes quiet addictive and I struggle to give proper rest and recovery days.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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A few rest & recovery days are fine, but not every week.
Run most days for 2/3 weeks, day off, PB
But slack too much & you will fall back
& get a PW
It’s all about consistency:diet:balance

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

126 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Tell you what I am finding it hard going these first 5/10 mins running now the temps dropped a bit. OK after that but I am having to give myself a proper talking to to get going.

I have come a long way and refuse to slack off.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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JimmyConwayNW said:
Tell you what I am finding it hard going these first 5/10 mins running now the temps dropped a bit.
I am doing a longer warm up before any efforts and it's usually 2 miles to get going rather than 1..... Brrrrr It was cold this morning

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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It's lovely. Can't stand running hot.

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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The jiffle king said:
PF.......

I have suffered from it mildly over the years and do the following which may seem extreme, but it has worked for me.
1) Rest when you first get it and rest for as much tie as you can
2) Stretch every night for an hour and don't just stretch the calf, do the IT band, gluten, everything and do it whilst watching TV and do it properly..... and every single night without fail
3) Roll a ball under your foot for 20 minutes 5 x a day... e.g. when you are at work, do this in a meeting. Ideally, this will be an ice bottle, but a solid lacrosse ball will do the power of good
4) If you are an office worker, do some desk stretches twice a day

I've always treated it like my mission to spend 2 hours a day on it (whilst doing other things) and I've usually been back up and running in a week. Not everyone has the appetite for the above but I know it's worked for me so I follow it.
AbzST64 said:
Yip can be a long one out with Plantar Fascitis (Sometimes up to 12 weeks)

For me i did the heel drops, single leg straight - 3 x 20, Single Leg Bent 3 x 20 then repeat on other leg and do this twice a day! Also do stretches on ITB etc and foam roll.

I did this for 8 weeks solid and eventually was fine, wasn't fun but needed to be done!!
I'd missed these and was going to ask the same thing - had it now for about 8 weeks with no real running, just trying to rest it and use a ball a bit but absolutely no difference so far.

Looks like I'll have to work on stretching/rolling a lot harder!

Thanks for the tips, it's a right pain in the 'arris but haven't anything meaty lined up until the start of May (Great Lakeland 3 Day) so a bit more optimistic about getting it sorted now with the above. Cheers.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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A foam roller can also really help, but its the regularity of the stretching which has helped me. I found once I missed a single stretching session, I found it easier to not do others, so I have to make myself disciplined to do everything, especially when you can start to feel signs of improvement.

In our house, any TV time is spent stretching and foam rollering

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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JimmyConwayNW said:
Tell you what I am finding it hard going these first 5/10 mins running now the temps dropped a bit. OK after that but I am having to give myself a proper talking to to get going.

I have come a long way and refuse to slack off.
I find arm warmers are brilliant in colder weather, keep me warm at the start and once I heat up a couple of km later I can roll them down to my wrists http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cycle/arm-leg-warmers/?f=3...

Annoyed I forgot to pack my running gloves when I was at home the other week, I've got another week of my evening commute without them.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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I highly recommend the Joe Rogan Experience podcast with Courtney Dauwalter. The reason should become clear when you look at the recent MOAB 240 results...

http://ultrasignup.com/m_results_event.aspx?did=43...

Just the 10 hours ahead of second place and 17 hours ahead of the next female.


tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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She's been courted by a few podcasters since MOAB. I think Ian Corless had her on recently but I've not gotten around to listening to it yet - Dan Carlin's Hardcore Histories has taken pride of place on my long run playlist (not running related, but anything that has my rapt attention after 3 hours of lumpy bumpy running is worthy of a mention.)

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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First run back after three weeks out, and still recovering from a chest infection. Naturally an 18km hilly trail run was just the job. 1.41 half four weeks ago. Bonked at 14km and run walked it out. Dear God I'm a tt sometimes.

Good excuse to buy all of the food in Sainsbury and do an impromptu roast. Now very sleepy.

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Did my first half marathon this morning. Bloody cold but dry and bright. Undulating course on roads I know well from both running and cycling. Pace dropped badly at 11miles and I finished in 2:10. I had hoped to break 2hrs and if I’d managed to maintain the pace of the first 11 miles I should have done. Next time!

To be fair, my training in recent weeks has been very haphazard due to various other commitments.

Feel fine generally. Left knee is a little stiff but apart from that, I don’t feel any worse than after any other run.

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Top effort. Well done.

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Went out to do 10ish but ended up with 7 miles around wimbellball lake on Exmoor.

Toaday's lesson was hoka challengers are seriously st in muddy/leafy gloop , when you can't run uphill because the more pressure you apply the more the shoe just slides and i was pretty much just sliding down hill.

Back to the inov8's for the winter.

MattS5

1,911 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Ran from Dorking to just outside Sevenoaks yesterday, along the North downs way. 30 miles in total, just under 4,000ft of climbing.
Left home at 5am (north Norfolk), started running just before 9am and finished just around 4pm, including stopping for snacks and hot drinks for an hour or so part way through it.
Weather and conditions were wet and miserable from lunchtime onwards but was a good day out with a couple of running friends. All at a very steady run/walk pace.
Left for home just after 5pm and was on the sofa just after 8pm.

Quads are feeling a little sore today.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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egor110 said:
Went out to do 10ish but ended up with 7 miles around wimbellball lake on Exmoor.

Toaday's lesson was hoka challengers are seriously st in muddy/leafy gloop , when you can't run uphill because the more pressure you apply the more the shoe just slides and i was pretty much just sliding down hill.

Back to the inov8's for the winter.
Completely agree. For summer or groomed trails they're a cracking, do anything (almost) shoe. But it's Mudclaw Season now. Although I'm still hoping to get some use out of the Hokas on the early morning, frozen ground runs.