The Running Thread Vol 2

[WolfieBot]

okgo said:

Has anyone got a good idea on what 1kg weight loss would do to your pace, I figure I could probably do with losing 5.

A rough rule of thumb I've previously heard is a 1 pound weight loss equates to 2 seconds per mile.

So 1kg would be about 4-5 seconds per mile maybe?


I'm just getting going again following a fairly quiet 12 months of running. Been cycling a bit more and did the rat race 20 mile 200 obstacle race recently.

First intervals in ages on Monday, 5x1km at average of 7min/mile pace.

Was hoping to go sub 90 for half in October but I might have left it a bit late now for training.

[egor110]

I think it does make a big difference .

I was floating around 12.5 stone last year did ham to lyme ultra and was training for city to sea ultra so was banging in lots of long steady runs doing sort of 8 to 8.30ish on road.

I decided last minute to do bristol half , had managed to get my weight down to just under 12 stone and did 7.17 for every mile of the half !

Purely down to being lighter i think .

[hyphen]

okgo said:

Has anyone got a good idea on what 1kg weight loss would do to your pace, I figure I could probably do with losing 5.

Lose 5kg of fat, then put 5kg of increased muscle on your legs and you will probably be faster at same weight

[okgo]

hyphen said:

Lose 5kg of fat, then put 5kg of increased muscle on your legs and you will probably be faster at same weight

lol. I don't need anymore sodding muscle on my legs, who on earth has a 31" waist but weighs 87kg but wears size S from Reiss!! Like the troll though, a cycling classic.

[travel is dangerous]

Reiss size S is fking massive though! and their 30 inch trousers are more like 32 I think.

[okgo]

travel is dangerous said:

Reiss size S is fking massive though! and their 30 inch trousers are more like 32 I think.

I don't wear their trousers, too big ;-)

Just bought some new trainers after a gait session at runners need, told me everything I knew but the new Addias Boost something or other have made it much more even, very much an improvement, so hopefully will feel it out on the road.

[hyphen]

Also bought some trainers myself, first road shoes and same brand as my trail shoes. Don't do any road running as such, but thought I should have a pair on standby.

Well actually 4 pairs of Nike Pegasus 35 have arrived! (released this week), as couldn't decide in colour so taking advantage of the free returns.

Narrower then the trail shoe on first fit, so may have to order the wide option or half a size up, but will take advantage of the no quibble return and take the colour I like for a few runs this week.

[Challo]

hyphen said:

Also bought some trainers myself, first road shoes and same brand as my trail shoes. Don't do any road running yet, but thought I should have a pair on standby.

Well actually 4 pairs of Nike Pegasus 35 have arrived! (released this week), as couldn't decide in colour so taking advantage of the free returns.

Narrower then the trail shoe on first fit, so may have to order the wide option or half a size up, but will take advantage of the no quibble return and take the colour I like for a few runs this week.

Would be good to see how you get on with them. Had 33's and currently wear 34's which I really like. Will be getting new pair end of the summer and like the look of the 35's.

Have you worn Pegasus before?

[travel is dangerous]

I have already done my second run of the day - running to work (about 1 hr) and then got asked by a colleague if I fancied a lunch time run (only a short one). I've said yes to this a few times now. I'm hoping that it'll help me do longer longer runs (e.g. today about 15k in total) but not sure if it really works like that. the first km of the 2nd run is always pretty hard!

[hyphen]

Challo said:

Would be good to see how you get on with them. Had 33's and currently wear 34's which I really like. Will be getting new pair end of the summer and like the look of the 35's.

Have you worn Pegasus before?

Nope. Had a cheap pair of trainers that were long past their usage rate and were recently swapped with Nike Terra Kiger as I run gravel/grass/mud trails.

But often when on unplanned family days out, I come across lovely areas/a hill/steps and wish I was wearing running trainers rather than summer shoes so can take advantage.

The plan is to wear these and carry some shorts so can increase my running when the mood takes me, as will be wearing a t-shirt in summer anyway. Also bought an jogging buggy/trailer for my little son so will be that weird dad running around my local streets with him

Will update you on how I get on with them

[Cybertronian]

hyphen said:

Will update you on how I get on with them

I'm also very curious of your opinion after you've run a few times in them.

I've been running in Pegasus since the 28. Loved the 30, 31 and 32, but skipped the 33.

Jumped into the 34 and they were horrible, causing a touch of plantar fasciitis in my left foot that's never happened before with any other shoes, whether road, race, or trail. By adding the Zoom air bag below the forefoot, it stiffened the whole shoe up to change the Jack of all trades approach that the Pegasus was known for.

I have 2 pairs of the 32 purchased cheap from Nike factory outlets, waiting for a rainy day, though I know stock won't last forever...

Edited by Cybertronian on Thursday 24th May 16:11

[hyphen]

Been out in my trail shoes a couple of hours ago, 2 mile trail warm up jog and then up and downa grassy hill multiple times as fast as possible, with erm a bit...of stopping to catch my breath.

I was lapped multiple times by a mature couple who were already there doing the hill, up and down they zoomed without a pause.

They were also running barefoot, as in with no shoes at all . How embarrassing Need to up my game.

Edited by hyphen on Thursday 24th May 22:01

[The jiffle king]

Speaking of sessions, I'm getting back into doing some proper sessions after many years of just running.

Today as 400/800/1200/1600/1200/800/400 with 400 jog recoveries after most reps and 2 mins rest either side of the 1600.

20 laps of the local track in total and it was a mental thing above anything else

[Smitters]

The jiffle king said:

Speaking of sessions, I'm getting back into doing some proper sessions after many years of just running.

Today as 400/800/1200/1600/1200/800/400 with 400 jog recoveries after most reps and 2 mins rest either side of the 1600.

20 laps of the local track in total and it was a mental thing above anything else

That looks horrendous!

[RizzoTheRat]

hyphen said:

They were also running barefoot, as in with no shoes at all . How embarrassing

I do a bit of running barefoot on the beach, it's surprising how soft your feet are even running on soft sand. The occasional shelly patches are bloody uncomfortable! They do toughen up quite quickly though, I was doing a lot more a year or 2 back and had no problem running several km down the beach once I'd been doing it regularly.

[travel is dangerous]

RizzoTheRat said:

hyphen said:

They were also running barefoot, as in with no shoes at all . How embarrassing

I do a bit of running barefoot on the beach, it's surprising how soft your feet are even running on soft sand. The occasional shelly patches are bloody uncomfortable! They do toughen up quite quickly though, I was doing a lot more a year or 2 back and had no problem running several km down the beach once I'd been doing it regularly.

[RC1807]

travel is dangerous said:

RizzoTheRat said:

hyphen said:

They were also running barefoot, as in with no shoes at all . How embarrassing

I do a bit of running barefoot on the beach, it's surprising how soft your feet are even running on soft sand. The occasional shelly patches are bloody uncomfortable! They do toughen up quite quickly though, I was doing a lot more a year or 2 back and had no problem running several km down the beach once I'd been doing it regularly.

nature's pummice, innit



Due to some ongoing health issues, my weight's increased in the last year, so my running splits have by the same margin - or more - which is pretty annoying.
Still, hospital on Tue and a dietician appointment a couple of weeks later, and I should be back to "fighting weight" in a few months.
Also, I've signed up for RunDownDementia so I've a minimum, Strava logged, km target to reach before the end of August - and I'm raisng money for Dementia Research UK, too.

[RizzoTheRat]

RC1807 said:

nature's pummice, innit

The bloody razor clams aren't!

travel is dangerous said:

Well if I take the long route home I do hit the coast at the nudist beach

Main reason for running barefoot though is the sand's a lot firmer on the waterline, and on a hot day it's nice to splash through the water a bit

For the real nutters though they run a marathon along the sand every year
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[hyphen]

Cybertronian said:

hyphen said:

Will update you on how I get on with them

I'm also very curious of your opinion after you've run a few times in them.

I've been running in Pegasus since the 28. Loved the 30, 31 and 32, but skipped the 33.

Jumped into the 34 and they were horrible, causing a touch of plantar fasciitis in my left foot that's never happened before with any other shoes, whether road, race, or trail. By adding the Zoom air bag below the forefoot, it stiffened the whole shoe up to change the Jack of all trades approach that the Pegasus was known for.

I have 2 pairs of the 32 purchased cheap from Nike factory outlets, waiting for a rainy day, though I know stock won't last forever...

Edited by Cybertronian on Thursday 24th May 16:11

Will let you know Just need to decide which colour I am keeping, Nike provide a collect+ and a royal mail label so sending 3 back now, and then try the other out for 30 days and hopefully keep.

[andy_s]

Great two days recce on the Southern Upland Way, a 30 and a 20 mile day, pretty horrendous terrain but fab weather and some excellent views on these humble hills - thing is you cross-grain them so it's like a roller coaster all day! My wife nav'ed for the first time but broke her glasses just as we started so nav was largely courtesy of Eric Morecomb!