The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
RizzoTheRat said:
There's also the possibility that their measuring wheel is more accurate than your watch. Sharp turns, especially under trees, will get missed by a lot of watches, and even in relatively open ground it's surprising if you do multiple laps how far apart each laps trace can be on the GPS. 2K is still a lot to be out by though.
2k IS a lot.Even if you take into account cutting corners and straightlining wiggly bits, it shouldn't be that much of a difference.
Assume a circular track of 10K circumference, where the 10k is the center-line of the track (radius 1592.4m or thereabouts).
Say the track is 4m wide and you kept to the inside line for the full distance (radius of 1590m or thereabouts), you'd have covered 9.987km, so only really 1-200m difference, not 2000.
feef said:
2k IS a lot.
Even if you take into account cutting corners and straightlining wiggly bits, it shouldn't be that much of a difference.
Assume a circular track of 10K circumference, where the 10k is the center-line of the track (radius 1592.4m or thereabouts).
Say the track is 4m wide and you kept to the inside line for the full distance (radius of 1590m or thereabouts), you'd have covered 9.987km, so only really 1-200m difference, not 2000.
This is my point. 1-200m difference I could take. 2km is ridiculous. It’s 10% less than the proper distanceEven if you take into account cutting corners and straightlining wiggly bits, it shouldn't be that much of a difference.
Assume a circular track of 10K circumference, where the 10k is the center-line of the track (radius 1592.4m or thereabouts).
Say the track is 4m wide and you kept to the inside line for the full distance (radius of 1590m or thereabouts), you'd have covered 9.987km, so only really 1-200m difference, not 2000.
feef said:
2k IS a lot.
Even if you take into account cutting corners and straightlining wiggly bits, it shouldn't be that much of a difference.
Assume a circular track of 10K circumference, where the 10k is the center-line of the track (radius 1592.4m or thereabouts).
Say the track is 4m wide and you kept to the inside line for the full distance (radius of 1590m or thereabouts), you'd have covered 9.987km, so only really 1-200m difference, not 2000.
When Strava stalking during my last 50 miler I didn't see that much variance. I'm well aware of the limitations of the technology when it comes to corners, but I'd be concerned at that much difference.Even if you take into account cutting corners and straightlining wiggly bits, it shouldn't be that much of a difference.
Assume a circular track of 10K circumference, where the 10k is the center-line of the track (radius 1592.4m or thereabouts).
Say the track is 4m wide and you kept to the inside line for the full distance (radius of 1590m or thereabouts), you'd have covered 9.987km, so only really 1-200m difference, not 2000.
Aviemore 10k in 2016 was 2km short (the half may also have been short) as a Marshall sent everyone down the wrong way!
A mass of complaints but as someone has said above, the money has already been spent or given to charity so nobody got a refund.
They offered 10% off entry for the next year if you signed up by a certain time which again a lot of people thought was quite cheeky!
A mass of complaints but as someone has said above, the money has already been spent or given to charity so nobody got a refund.
They offered 10% off entry for the next year if you signed up by a certain time which again a lot of people thought was quite cheeky!
Didn't know whether to start a new thread or post in here...
Running shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
Running shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
AWF90 said:
Didn't know whether to start a new thread or post in here...
Running shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
For neutral Mizuno wave riders are great for meRunning shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
AWF90 said:
Didn't know whether to start a new thread or post in here...
Running shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
Maybe try the new Nike Pegasus 35, similar to the flyknit...only 4oz heavier!Running shoes. I have gone through 2 pairs of Nike Flyknit Racer in a relatively short time. I also have a pair of Asics which are a LOT heavier. But find running hugely easier in the Flyknits. I think this is down to weight... Can anyone recommend a fairly durable but light trainer?
Thanks all. Seen the Pegasus come up a lot when researching so think I'll try them. I imagine the weight thing is all in my head but we'll go with it 
One thing I've never done is have my gait analysed - anyone know anywhere near Sheffield I can have this done? Meadowhall is local and I think they would do it in that 'SweatShop' upstairs?
One thing I've never done is have my gait analysed - anyone know anywhere near Sheffield I can have this done? Meadowhall is local and I think they would do it in that 'SweatShop' upstairs?
The jiffle king said:
madbadger said:
Out of interest has anyone ever had gait analysis done and been told their current shoes are fine?
Unless you know the guy or gal doing the analysis has had "proper" training, and not just a 30 minute session being shown how to draw colourful lines on an iPad, and that they are actually invested in getting you the right shoe, not the most expensive shoe, I would see what feels comfy and fits and go from there. Nike are doing an excellent returns policy at the moment, so you don't have to worry about guessing online and then discovering they rub you to buggery.
For balance, I wear Asics, so no brand-blind Nike fanboi stuff going on here.
ETA, in my running world, f'ing shinsplints again. As per usual, too much intensity too quickly - a 21 minute parkrun, fastest in a year, and an interval session of 6x3 mins of 90s at 5.45/mile pace... I'm backing off sooner though, so hopefully a short episode.
Upside, not run that fast in 15 years and set a lifetime 800m pb in the process. Turns out plodding slowly for ultra training, hitting the gym and walking up hills no more than 3x per week can give you some speed. Certain forum readers/contributers/advice seekers may wish to note... :-)
Edited by Smitters on Wednesday 4th July 13:40
madbadger said:
Out of interest has anyone ever had gait analysis done and been told their current shoes are fine?
AWF90 said:
Ah right, so its a common theme that the gait thing is a load of old tosh? Just buy neutral and that's that?
I thought people genuinely had it checked out and bought accordingly...
I don’t think it’s tosh but they are trying to sell you stuff. If nothing else they will tell you a lot about how you run and there type of shoe you need. I thought people genuinely had it checked out and bought accordingly...
You can always look at the soles of your old running shoes to see similar but every now and again it’s good to have an expert view.... the person operating the machine is the difference
The jiffle king said:
AWF90 said:
Ah right, so its a common theme that the gait thing is a load of old tosh? Just buy neutral and that's that?
I thought people genuinely had it checked out and bought accordingly...
I don’t think it’s tosh but they are trying to sell you stuff. If nothing else they will tell you a lot about how you run and there type of shoe you need. I thought people genuinely had it checked out and bought accordingly...
You can always look at the soles of your old running shoes to see similar but every now and again it’s good to have an expert view.... the person operating the machine is the difference
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