The Running Thread Vol 2
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Scabutz said:
spine
If I get my entry approved for next January I’ll post my ‘experience statement’, all willy-wavey that it is.You may have already seen this, but in case not ...
faq said:
This experience can be drawn from various sources and is not limited to ultra or multi-stage events. Mountain marathons, adventure races, orienteering events, fell races, expeditions or challenges like the Bob Graham Round or similar are are looked on favourably. Long distance walking is also extremely beneficial and you may find yourself doing a lot of this! The more a challenge features mountainous terrain, cold, moorland and elements of navigation the better. Mountain Leaders, Winter Mountain Leaders, Mountain Rescue Team members, mountaineers, active and former Armed Forces personnel will likely all have the experience necessary, too.
In the meantime, for everyone’s enjoyment, and because while you need to treat these things with respect it also helps to have a warped sense of humour (video contains written swears) ... https://youtu.be/ml6Dy7CpGZkbigandclever said:
Scabutz said:
spine
If I get my entry approved for next January I’ll post my ‘experience statement’, all willy-wavey that it is.You may have already seen this, but in case not ...
faq said:
This experience can be drawn from various sources and is not limited to ultra or multi-stage events. Mountain marathons, adventure races, orienteering events, fell races, expeditions or challenges like the Bob Graham Round or similar are are looked on favourably. Long distance walking is also extremely beneficial and you may find yourself doing a lot of this! The more a challenge features mountainous terrain, cold, moorland and elements of navigation the better. Mountain Leaders, Winter Mountain Leaders, Mountain Rescue Team members, mountaineers, active and former Armed Forces personnel will likely all have the experience necessary, too.
In the meantime, for everyone’s enjoyment, and because while you need to treat these things with respect it also helps to have a warped sense of humour (video contains written swears) ... https://youtu.be/ml6Dy7CpGZkThat video is very funny. "The f
king Pennine way in winter"."Its the UTMB that's in summer. You have to qualify for that and it's full of French people"
Scabutz said:
bit more spine
Well, I've been accepted. Hopefully signing up will be the only terrible decision I make relating to this one 
My willy-waving experience statement read as follows:
I've completed a marathon on every continent and at the North Pole. I want to do interesting events, so along the way I've run the Antarctic Ice marathon, the Volcano (Atacama desert) marathon, the Sahara marathon, the Everest mountain marathon and so on. among my favourites is the Belgium Beer Lover's Marathon that I've run every year since they started. In 2018 I started going long with the BTU Jungle (Amazon Peru) ultra and the BTU For Rangers (Kenya) ultra. I'm signed up for Grand2Grand in the US next year. I'm a grinder not a sprinter and I'm quite happy getting my money's worth out of a race fee.
I should point out that I'm s
t at running and usually finish in the final third, in bits.andy_s said:
bigandclever said:
spine willy-waving.
All the very best - don't know if you've seen this but a good idea to have a read - dartmoordogrunner.blogspot.com - lot's of sage real-world advice covering the many, many facets to pull together. I've been reading that blog over the weekend. Really good.
I watched the Spine Race film last night. You can rent it at reelhouse.org
Some of the conditions looked brutal. 65mph winds. One guy said he wasn't going to run up a hill but did as he was blown up it. At the top it was icy and he felt like an out of control shopping trolley. Really want to do this now.
Really interesting. Most telling thing is though when they interview the winner. Usually the winner will say something like I am really glad to take the win, I gave it my all etc etc. This guy when asked we he was happy he just said "Because its over"
Some of the conditions looked brutal. 65mph winds. One guy said he wasn't going to run up a hill but did as he was blown up it. At the top it was icy and he felt like an out of control shopping trolley. Really want to do this now.
Really interesting. Most telling thing is though when they interview the winner. Usually the winner will say something like I am really glad to take the win, I gave it my all etc etc. This guy when asked we he was happy he just said "Because its over"
andy_s said:
All the very best - don't know if you've seen this but a good idea to have a read - dartmoordogrunner.blogspot.com - lot's of sage real-world advice covering the many, many facets to pull together.
st the bed. That properly puts me off. Or at least provides an appropriate reality check. I have no real worries about doing 46 miles in the Brecons in November, though I acknowledge it could be horrific weather. In fact, right up until it becomes a health hazard, the worse the weather the better for me - my time slows, but my placings always improve. The Spine is not "another level" it's a different world. What terrifies me is that Eoin Keith did less than three laps on the Barkley course.Challo said:
Anyone recommend some running wireless headphones?
Currently using Monster Isport Victory ones which have been great over the last few years, but one of the ear buds has stopped working.
Running throughout the year, so need to be ok in the rain.
I've got these:Currently using Monster Isport Victory ones which have been great over the last few years, but one of the ear buds has stopped working.
Running throughout the year, so need to be ok in the rain.
https://www.richersounds.com/headphones/optoma-nuf...
Work well in all conditions and the silicon army bit helps hold them in your ear nicely. I tend to find in-ear headphones fall out after a while with movement, so that is a nice touch for me.
Sound is good, they're super-light and come in a handy little neoprene pouch with a carabiner.
there are various sizes and colours of silicon bits included in the pack.
My wife and a couple of mates swear by the Aftershokz Trekz. They're bone conduction so you can hear the music but still hear what's going on around you. You can also use them in most races that ban earphones too.
I'm still on wired at the moment but thinking my watch might need replacing with a Bluetooth one at some point.
I'm still on wired at the moment but thinking my watch might need replacing with a Bluetooth one at some point.
feef said:
I've got these:
https://www.richersounds.com/headphones/optoma-nuf...
Work well in all conditions and the silicon army bit helps hold them in your ear nicely. I tend to find in-ear headphones fall out after a while with movement, so that is a nice touch for me.
Sound is good, they're super-light and come in a handy little neoprene pouch with a carabiner.
there are various sizes and colours of silicon bits included in the pack.
I've got the same ones. I'd definitely recommend them, the quality and fit are spot on and battery life is good.https://www.richersounds.com/headphones/optoma-nuf...
Work well in all conditions and the silicon army bit helps hold them in your ear nicely. I tend to find in-ear headphones fall out after a while with movement, so that is a nice touch for me.
Sound is good, they're super-light and come in a handy little neoprene pouch with a carabiner.
there are various sizes and colours of silicon bits included in the pack.
I think they've just released a newer version - if I kill these somehow (I've got form for forgetting they're in my vest and sending headphones through the wash) I'll be looking at the BeSport 4's instead.
Scabutz said:
andy_s said:
bigandclever said:
spine willy-waving.
All the very best - don't know if you've seen this but a good idea to have a read - dartmoordogrunner.blogspot.com - lot's of sage real-world advice covering the many, many facets to pull together. I've been reading that blog over the weekend. Really good.
I have these Anker headphones from amazon
https://amzn.to/2QseebC
There really lightweight and take a beating at around £18 a bargain I was gonna replace them with some more expensive ones but can’t see the point although I’ve never tried any others so they may actually have better sound than mine.
https://amzn.to/2QseebC
There really lightweight and take a beating at around £18 a bargain I was gonna replace them with some more expensive ones but can’t see the point although I’ve never tried any others so they may actually have better sound than mine.
I took part in the Nottingham Robin Hood HM On Sunday. My training has been going well until a few days out when my shoulder went stiff one day after a long run and then i tweeked my back on the Thursday night, Woke up in agony Friday so booked in to see Osteopath that evening.
In a lot of pain I got there with my back strapped up. I had been targetting 2 hours, my PB is 2:07. Got started and soon caught the 2 hour pacer and then after 4 miles went past with the aim of keeping him behind me. The first 3 miles were tough as they were up & down hill and then levelled out, all was going great until mile 6 when my right foot had pins and needles so stopped and adjusted my trainer and carried on running, got past 12 miles and all went wrong then, my legs gave up so was just running on heart, the last half mile was agony. Ran through to the finish with my partner pushing me on (we started at the same time but ran our own races which was pretty much together throughout) and clocked a very nice 1:58:19. My PB by 9 minutes with back and leg problems.
Onwards to Manchester half marathon to complete my 7th Half marathon, almost a year to the date of completing my first.
In a lot of pain I got there with my back strapped up. I had been targetting 2 hours, my PB is 2:07. Got started and soon caught the 2 hour pacer and then after 4 miles went past with the aim of keeping him behind me. The first 3 miles were tough as they were up & down hill and then levelled out, all was going great until mile 6 when my right foot had pins and needles so stopped and adjusted my trainer and carried on running, got past 12 miles and all went wrong then, my legs gave up so was just running on heart, the last half mile was agony. Ran through to the finish with my partner pushing me on (we started at the same time but ran our own races which was pretty much together throughout) and clocked a very nice 1:58:19. My PB by 9 minutes with back and leg problems.
Onwards to Manchester half marathon to complete my 7th Half marathon, almost a year to the date of completing my first.
Getting back to training. Was testing out my new spikes, which seem comfy, though I need to try some downhills really. Managed a few intervals yesterday at fast tempo and managed to squeeze a 2.55 half mile in the last one. I was doing ? x 3 mins off 90 secs walk. Managed 4x3 in the end, but my calves were complaining at that point from the flats, so I called it a day. Discretion valour etc etc.
One issue I'm really struggling with is persistent hamstring soreness caused by a nerve being pinged in my back. I've had it on and off for years but this time mobilisation and stretching don't seem to be working. It's definitely nervous as the physio has done a bunch of tests to rule out an actual hamstring issue. It's ok going uphill, irritating on the flat and downright painful descending. Not sure what to do really, other than do more gym pre-hab, which has been lacking. I have a funny feeling a combo of less gym due to baby and holding baby on my left shoulder has made things worse.
One issue I'm really struggling with is persistent hamstring soreness caused by a nerve being pinged in my back. I've had it on and off for years but this time mobilisation and stretching don't seem to be working. It's definitely nervous as the physio has done a bunch of tests to rule out an actual hamstring issue. It's ok going uphill, irritating on the flat and downright painful descending. Not sure what to do really, other than do more gym pre-hab, which has been lacking. I have a funny feeling a combo of less gym due to baby and holding baby on my left shoulder has made things worse.
Well done Tim!
Smitters you may be onto something with the baby thing, my wife gets a similar migration of problems - lifts shopping in lopsided, gets shoulder misalignment and leg tendon problems but cause is in pelvis - Weird but makes sense I guess, it's all connected, my plantar root cause seemed to be poor a hip flexor (amongst other).
Smitters you may be onto something with the baby thing, my wife gets a similar migration of problems - lifts shopping in lopsided, gets shoulder misalignment and leg tendon problems but cause is in pelvis - Weird but makes sense I guess, it's all connected, my plantar root cause seemed to be poor a hip flexor (amongst other).
andy_s said:
Well done Tim!
Smitters you may be onto something with the baby thing, my wife gets a similar migration of problems - lifts shopping in lopsided, gets shoulder misalignment and leg tendon problems but cause is in hips - Weird but makes sense I guess, it's all connected, my plantar root cause seemed to be poor a hip flexor (amongst other).
Agreed! Well done - cracking pb.Smitters you may be onto something with the baby thing, my wife gets a similar migration of problems - lifts shopping in lopsided, gets shoulder misalignment and leg tendon problems but cause is in hips - Weird but makes sense I guess, it's all connected, my plantar root cause seemed to be poor a hip flexor (amongst other).
andy_s I'll see how it goes the next couple of weeks and report back on anything that's made a positive impact. I'm currently googling sciatica to see if anything will help.
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